A complete guide to bitch sex

you're @Ebonstar?

it's not about asking for or getting forgiveness from strangers on the internet. it's about our partners getting the best life possible. letting a puppy just be a puppy is a start of that.
If you read my above reply I quoted The Seeker's now deleted post, where he admitted that he did the same. The original sequence was Ebon, Seeker, and then myself.

You guys are right. Too many of us have let ourselves get out of control and ultimately there is no one else to blame but ourselves. I am totally guilty and I own it, I regret it and if the outcome is that I never get to have an intimate bond with my partner, well I deserve that.
Personally I will be re-evaluating who I talk to own on here as I have been guilty of falling under their influence and taking things too far too fast. I’m completely ashamed of myself and the way I have contributed to this awful culture of masturbatory relationships with non-humans. I appreciate all who have helped me to realize this and I ask for forgiveness knowing full well I may not receive it. It is time to do better for my partner and for the community. To both I offer my deepest apologies.
I know you were in contact with at least one zoo on here that advised you not to be intimate with your girl, but you ended going against his advice. If people are trying to persuade you into inappropriate behavior you need to cut contact with them.

You have to remember that you're an "owner" now. You have a dog now that is dependent on you and your guidance. Dogs are by nature highly emotional and social creatures because humanity shaped them to be this way through thousands of years of artificial selection. But you HAVE to let her be a dog first, as she is still an animal, as well as a living creature subjected to stages of development from puppyhood to adult. She should only be a potential sexual partner as long as she's comfortable and of age. If you groom a puppy into a sexual relationship the outcome will most likely be an emotionally and mentally damaged dog. She may have sex with you, but not of her own will. She will have been trained to put up with it because "it's what makes master happy" and isn't something that makes her happy. This type of one-sided relationship is no better than someone grooming a child for the same purposes, selfish self-sexual gratification. She may develop behaviors of neuroticism and aggression as you've interrupted the natural progression of puppyhood development, or she may not. Only time will tell.

2 months to a year and a half may not seem like a long span of time in human terms, but those months are absolutely critical for development and will shape the dog into the adult they eventually end up becoming. That's why some zoos will tell you it's best to wait until their 3rd heat. But ideally second heat should be the minimum.

You cannot change your prior actions of the past, but it's not too late to change your actions moving forward for the betterment of your girl.
 
you're @Ebonstar?

it's not about asking for or getting forgiveness from strangers on the internet. it's about our partners getting the best life possible. letting a puppy just be a puppy is a start of that.
Wow, you know you guys are taking this way out of context. In NO way have I done any harm to my dog. The entire context of what I have attempted with her is not how you are taking it. I realize the internet and text is easy to misunderstand, but you are making assumptions here. The #1 thing I have been paying attention to in every interaction with my dog has been her comfort level. I've never done anything she's shown even a small amount of discomfort with. And everything I've done was only after consulting other far more experienced zoos on this site to make sure I wasn't taking things too far.
 
If you read my above reply I quoted The Seeker's now deleted post, where he admitted that he did the same. The original sequence was Ebon, Seeker, and then myself.


I know you were in contact with at least one zoo on here that advised you not to be intimate with your girl, but you ended going against his advice. If people are trying to persuade you into inappropriate behavior you need to cut contact with them.

You have to remember that you're an "owner" now. You have a dog now that is dependent on you and your guidance. Dogs are by nature highly emotional and social creatures because humanity shaped them to be this way through thousands of years of artificial selection. But you HAVE to let her be a dog first, as she is still an animal, as well as a living creature subjected to stages of development from puppyhood to adult. She should only be a potential sexual partner as long as she's comfortable and of age. If groom a puppy into a sexual relationship the outcome will most likely be an emotionally and mentally damaged dog. She may have sex with you, but not of her own will. She will have been trained to put up with it because "it's what makes master happy" and isn't something that makes her happy. This type of one-sided relationship is no better than someone grooming a child for the same purposes, selfish self-sexual gratification. She may develop behaviors of neuroticism and aggression as you've interrupted the natural progression of puppyhood development, or she may not. Only time will tell.

2 months to a year and a half may not seem like a long span of time in human terms, but those months are absolutely critical for development and will shape the dog into the adult they eventually end up becoming. That's why some zoos will tell you it's best to wait until their 3rd heat. But ideally second heat should be the minimum.

You cannot change your prior actions of the past, but it's not too late to change your actions moving forward for the betterment of your girl.
Right. Well, I am taking this advice as valuable.

The current situation is that I have stopped all sexual touching AND also she appears to have just entered heat. We will see how things unfold. Thank you for offering your perspective.
 
Wow, you know you guys are taking this way out of context. In NO way have I done any harm to my dog. The entire context of what I have attempted with her is not how you are taking it. I realize the internet and text is easy to misunderstand, but you are making assumptions here. The #1 thing I have been paying attention to in every interaction with my dog has been her comfort level. I've never done anything she's shown even a small amount of discomfort with. And everything I've done was only after consulting other far more experienced zoos on this site to make sure I wasn't taking things too far.
i'm sure anyone who gave you the "go ahead" to do stuff to a puppy is "far more experienced". did they ask for pics if you're doing it right as well?
 
Hmm. This description is not exactly perfect and complete. After reading the posts, there are nonsense and misunderstandings.
And people are not being honest when they talk about it.
 
i'm sure anyone who gave you the "go ahead" to do stuff to a puppy is "far more experienced". did they ask for pics if you're doing it right as well?
It's an admin on this site, and yes, we are in close contact. This was an overreaction, trust me. I haven't harmed my dog in any way.
 
It's an admin on this site, and yes, we are in close contact. This was an overreaction, trust me. I haven't harmed my dog in any way.
an admin being fine with or even encouraging molesting of a nine month old puppy sounds very troubling...
 
Right. Well, I am taking this advice as valuable.

The current situation is that I have stopped all sexual touching AND also she appears to have just entered heat. We will see how things unfold. Thank you for offering your perspective.
This is a very complex topic. It is difficult to say an exact date. Dog development and human experience are also different.

It is technically possible to have sex with large breeds, at 9 months of age, before hot, but not always. 50-50% chance. (is unlikely to be harmed and will remain emotionally stable, but the risk is high)
And unethical. Not a nice thing ...

Opinions are divided as each dog develops differently and has a different size, a different way of thinking. Generally, at 9 months of age, you should only stroke and kiss. Gently touch with mouth, etc.
Not to have sex.
It is possible to examine with a finger (careful) what it is like inside (curiosity, experience), but it must not be sex with fingers and it must not be dilated or stretched. The vagina is still sensitive and not developed.
She’s not even physically fit for it, mentally and emotionally especially not.

Not even in the first heat, because the dog experiences a hormone bomb, it is not recommended to stress.
After the first hot +2-3 months, when the hormones completely subside, it is about 1 year old, then you can examine what you like.
Chances are you’re already accepting intercourse, but you shouldn’t make it regular, just rehearsal. Just a "test".
The daily level of sexual life requires 1.5-2 years of age. The principle of gradation applies between the two.

I have had 7 dogs so far, each has developed completely differently at a young age. Some were fast, some were slow.
Now I also have two puppies/junior (1 year old), one of whom will definitely not have sex before the age of 2 because he is still a very puppy. The other is very active at the age of ~ 1 (14 months), wants sex, pulls off my pants, scratches my legs and licks and wants. Still, I'm careful with it.
There are approx. 200 large breeds of dogs, cannot be decided based on a one guide.

People also often start having sex at the age of 14, even though they will only be really mature at the age of 18-20. Some people don't have sex until then. It varies. In dogs, it varies in the same way that it can be started at 1 or 2 or 2.5 years of age.
Because the dog cannot speak, it requires a lot of experience and attention. In the case of a first dog, it is not advisable to force it, due to a lack of experience. Even with an adult, mature dog, a person is doing wrong a lot when having sex with him for the first time. Do not start with a young dog without experience. With such a young dog especially.

Your dog is not yet physically developed, as evidenced by the tight sheath. It will grow and expand in ~ half a year.
The sheath is a very muscular part of the body, if the dog doesn’t trust you and is afraid, it will squeeze you a lot. You feel this "bone." This dog still needs physical and mental development. Stay currently stroking and kissing.

Sorry my english.
 
It was
Credits to the Author.

This is a guide, and only a guide into intercourse with female canines. This is an overlaying outline of the norm, on an individual basis conditions and situations may differ. All the advice given is from personal experience and advanced education, not second hand sources. If your experience is different, then you fall outside the category this guide is written for.

I will cover several aspects and important information on sex with female canines
(Bitches)

Topic headings will be in bold to help you find the section that most helps you.

I will also give a small tutorial at canine behavior for those who are unfamiliar with signs. A dog will not give you mixed signals, she will tell you exactly what she wants even if it confuses you to no end.

A misconception

There is no such thing as training a dog for sex. There are different things that a dog can or will learn about sex and sex techniques, but there is not dog sex training. Puppies are sexually immature. Yes they will go into heat, but her body is still developing and the last thing she needs is worrying about you touching her new things.

Do not ever try to “train” a dog for sex. A canine that enjoys your company can be shown techniques later on. First show her you intend to care for her and love her for more than her cunt. Then you truly can enjoy each other.

WHAT ABOUT DOG SIZE?

For bitches, size does matter. For vaginal contact nothing smaller than an Australian shepherd should have sexual contact with humans. Some select medium breeds can have human intercourse, but it is suggested that large and giant breeds are more suited to take human sizes.

THE KNOT FITS, WHY WON’T I?

The dogs’ penis is not like a humans. A human keeps a marginally tapered penis with a nervous ring about the head. A dogs’ penis is tapered with a nervous head and a knot. But the knot is not the base of the penis. There is a continuing shaft of the penis behind the knot. When a dog mounts a bitch the penis is not at full size. Once inside the vaginal canal (age and experience apply here) the dog will put the unengorged bulbous glands into her vaginal canal and past her pubic bone before it swells, engorged with blood to it’s size, the section of penis behind the knot remains outside the pubic bone retains about it’s original slim size. So the knot is not what the size comparison you need, it’s the shaft. If the knot forms outside the vaginal canal it usually will not fit unless there is a significant size difference.

AT WHAT AGE CAN A DOG HAVE INTERCOURSE?

After two years is the best recommended time before vaginal intercourse. A dog will continue to grow and develop for up to three years. A male dog is only a little less for human contact, at about 18 months he may show signs of actual sexual behavior. Do not mistake dominance or play humping as sexual behavior.

If you hurt or force yourself on a bitch she will fear you and live miserable and afraid. You are her protector and the one human in this world she needs to love her and take care of her because she deserves it, not because she gives it up or is a good sex toy.

ALL ABOUT, HER

The female canine body is as with most females, a work of art. The lovely triangular folds,.. but I have seen many questions. Where is the clit?

Well here is your answer. The clit is located between the vaginal opening and the clitoral fossa, these are your landmarks. You can feel them and see them and I like to taste them too.

Here is your road map of the intimate canine folds.
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LUBEING UP
What kind of lubrications can be used. A very important question as it affects your partner. Mainly. Water based type lube is recommended... DO NOT USE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS. Petroleum products such as baby oil or Vaseline are used to draw moisture out and away, so if used in sex, all the natural lubrication and moisture is drawn away. Meaning, it dries her out.

Some brands of sex lube are okay, avoid stimulating lubes as some dogs may have allergic reaction (try explaining that to the vet). Also avoid latex condoms with lube.

GOING IN

The canine vagina can be entered first at a 45 degree angle, and then you straighten out a bit and you can enter her vaginal canal. Do not mistake the clitoral fossa for the vaginal canal.

From top to bottom your bitch will have,

Vaginal opening
Clitoris
Clitoral fossa

The clitoral fossa is a dead end. But may confuse people

THE FIRST TIME

IF AT ANY POINT SHE SHOWS DISCOMFORT OR RESIGNATION, STOP.


If your girl has never had sex before, or is spayed/not menstruating and is her first time, Be gentle. Use a lot of lube and play with her nipples and vulva. Go farther slowly and stimulate her clit. Make circles around her nervious bud clockwise and then counterclockwise. Fondle her as much as you can to loosen her up as much as possible this way and tease her vaginal opening with your finger and or tongue. DO NOT use objects to “widen” her. If she can’t take you she can’t take you. Using a well lubricated index finger push into her opening. If she has a hymen it will feel like you are pushing against a wall with a spot in the middle. If you are not sure, make sure. You can use your pinky finger to press into the hole. It will feel like you have one of those rubber bands for braces on your finger.

Lube up your pinky really well and press your finger into the hole and finger the little hole until you can get the first knuckle into it without much resistance. Again, if you encounter any pain or discomfort action from her stop immediately.

If she is comfortable press into her slowly stimulating her clit and doing other nice things as foreplay (ear nibbles and nuzzling worked for mine.) Give her breaks between fingerings and continue to larger fingers until you can get a good insert size.


ANAL SEX WITH BITCHES

Some bitches will let you do them analy. If this is the case never ever insert the penis (finger dildo etc.) into the vagina after it has been in the anus. This can cause infections to include bladder and vaginal infections.

Remember that canines have anal glands. These can be released when fearful. The insertion of the penis or finger may also cause the release of the glands. Stimulating the anus in any way can eventually cause the release of the anal glands. In personal experience I fondled my bitchs’ sphincter along the outside and rimmed her with my fingers lightly, just teasing her, never penetrating and it caused her to express her glands.

The other thing is you want to be careful to not damage the glands. Most of the mess from anal intercourse with dogs is the anal glands which are quite potent smelling. Make sure before you give your lover a wanted anal session you sniff her out and make sure she smells healthy. If there is an unusual scent, or an infection scent take her to the vet. Anal glands can get impacted and infected, the vet can relieve this.

Scooting is often a sign of anal gland impaction and should be brought to the notice of the vet. Often a higher fiber diet is in order. Libbys’ canned pumpkin, one tablespoon a day will often keep her regular and help prevent anal gland impaction, but will not release already impacted glands. Some breeds are more prone to infection than others.

I LOVE HER, BUT SHE’S TOO SMALL

Remember the rule of comfort, if she is not comfortable, stop.

Love holds no bounds and when one is too small for the desired affect of physical contact there are always options.

Hotdog hotdoging is quite simple and pleasurable to both if warranted. Hotdoging is quite simply putting the length of your penis along the slit of her vulva and stroking along her folds. This will stimulate the clit and is quite arousing even fun for bitches that can take you, and can be used as foreplay.

This can be done in both missionary and doggie style with success. The advantage to hotdogging is you are stimulating her clit and vulva more than actually penetrating her would do.

Fingering Fingering is another method of being intimate that can fill a need in pleasure. You can hold her close to you, both of you laying down, it works best if her back is to your belly, and just fondle her vulva and stroke her clit. The best way I have found to fingering my bitches is to have a lubed finger or if she’s wet enough it’s fine. Stick your finger to the top of her clit and then slip off to the side of her bead and make a circle around it clockwise. My bitches usually jerk and stretch a lot, and as I feel them starting to relax again I go counterclockwise.

You do not have to press hard, as a matter of fact if you can do it lightly you get more reaction. Once she relaxes again change direction and for the finally take two fingers and even out your fingertips and stroke over her clit softly but firm let it slip through the V made by your fingertips. Start slow and work fast, then go back into circles and your girl should be tossing her head and squirming by now and her clit should look very large.

CANINE ORAL FOR HER

Yes you can give her fun and I suggest the sweet sweet taste of canine cunny. But again, some bitches do not like oral. If she is uncomfortable, stop.

Yes, you can give oral in heat, yes you can give oral to spayed/between heats bitches.

How to start. I suggest trying it as she is standing first. See how she takes to it. If she seems interested you may continue or try it on her back. Do not try a 69 the first time on her back, the new position may scare her if she is not used to it and she will be curious what you are doing. Let her lean up and sniff you out as you begin to lap at her vulva. But move her out of the way if she laps at her own vulva after watching what she is doing and lap her where she indicated. This will show her she can direct you, after a few times she will learn, or at least mine did.

The pointed tip of her vulva is an excellent point to lick into as it’s closest to the clitoris. Slit licking is fine but for some reason if you broaden your tongue while in her folds and just wiggle your flat tongue over her clit she goes nuts.

WHAT IS SHE TELLING ME?

No one knows your bitch better than you. You know her reactions to pain pleasure or fear. If you do not know how to communicate with your mate/lover you have no business asking for sex.

Canine language is complex but simple to those who live around animals. This will help you understand why your girl does what she does. Tail flagging (moving the tail out of the way of her genitals and looking over her shoulder) is obvious for “take me stud” but what about getting to that point?

To understand if she wants you it is simple. In a safe place, where you feel safe and she does too, get undressed and let her explore you at her descression, don’t just start flopping your equipment in her face or fingering her. Sit still and see if she takes notice of you, if she seems distracted she may not be comfortable, just let her get used to her area, but if she runs to you and away play with her nonsexually. Roughhouse and give her your full undivided attention, pull rope toys or whatever she enjoys. Then as she wears down, on all fours, sniff her nose and her shoulder, to her tailbace on the top, then sniff at her vulva.

Here she will decide what to do next, she may whip around and growl, sit down or try to play some more. Don’t be frustrated, she may not want anything more than a platonic relationship. Even her cycle will not cause her to accept you if she doesn’t want you. Don’t hurt her or abandon her if she rejects you sexually. Just love her as she wants.

On the other paw if she decides that she wants to take the relationship further she will be still or sniff lightly at you and perhaps even lick you. Reciprocate by licking her vulva or touching her softly, don’t stick anything in her yet. Put an arm around her shoulder and pull up on over her back and mount her. If she is still or flags you can continue accordingly.


MEDICAL

Some explanations will not be the full explanation for the sake of time and interest but if it is a constantly asked question I will by all means expand on the reason or process of the questioned action or cause/result.

if your mate has a problem and it really concerns you, be safer than sorry and visit your Vet. Your Veterinarian wants you to have a healthy and happy pet/companion/lover as much and sometimes more then you do. But please take into account that unlike a human hospital, a veterinary hospital is not underwritten, and money lost directly affects them. They will work with you on budgets, or you can find one that will.

There are a lot of charities around that will also help you to include shot clinics and cheep spay neuter clinics.

These topics really concerned me as I read the question and got the feedback from people. I will try to make this simple to follow and easy to find what you are looking for by scrolling down. Questions can be posted and answered as best available. Some may refer you back to the main text. All answers are directed to guide human sexual contact. This is not a dog breeding guide.

WHAT IS THE AVERAGE K-9 LIFESPAN

Taking into account proper medical care, love and food and breeding:

Small breed 14-21 yrs
Medium breed 14-18 yrs
Large breed 12-16 yrs
Giant breed 9-12 yrs

This will not cover every case and is only an average of ages. There will be exceptions.


HORMONES AND HEAT

An intact bitch between heats and a spayed bitch will have the same hormone levels. Estrogen in particular was brought up. Estrogen is produced in more than the ovaries. When the ovaries are removed the estrogen levels will remain the same. Estrogen deficiency will be marked by incontinence and or bed wetting. The valve at the bladder is estrogen controlled. So as there is less estrogen, bladder control becomes an issue and can be treated by your veterinarian.

Progesterone is the main hormone for heats, it prepares the bitch for breeding and pregnancy. It sets the time for ovulation and thus optimal breeding times. This is the primary hormone that will cause heats, not estrogen.

Pyomietrea,

Pyometra is always fatal if untreated

This is a deadly condition commonly seen in unsprayed bitches and cases where the uterus was not removed but the ovaries were (mostly in Europe). If you live in Europe you will need to ask if the vet will remove the uterine horns as well to avoid this.
Your sperm can cause pyometra because its job is to enter the uterus, then it dies and can cause infection.



My dog is always in heat, she never stops

This is bad, very bad
. This means that there is a problem with her ovaries, most likely cancer benign or malignant may apply, but a problem of some sort has cause hormonal imbalance and will cause your bitch to toxify and die.


Are there any canine STDs?

Yes, brucellosis.

This is a bacterial disease that can be transmitted from animals to humans and humans to animals. It is form touching vaginal secretions, afterbirth or from the male mucus or ejaculate. Once infected it is very difficult to get rid of but is treatable. There will be side effects however.

This will cause abortions or miscarriages and infertility. It also affects the joints and other body systems.



Is it possible to have sex with a spayed bitch? (Feel free to see the rest of the conversation about this subject by scrolling down to the replies)
You are not going to have much luck with a bitch that has been spayed as a puppy because her sex organs will never fully develop. Vets say they can spay as early as 8 weeks old. If you are going to spay to prevent unwanted puppies and/or potential health problems, it's recommended you wait until after her second heat (and possibly even after she's had sex) to have the procedure done. Otherwise, it's going to be very challenging (if even possible) for her to be accepting and able to have intercourse.
much easier for me to fully go I to the females ass than her pussy. She liked that more as well. Even pushed back against my
 
This is a very complex topic. It is difficult to say an exact date. Dog development and human experience are also different.

It is technically possible to have sex with large breeds, at 9 months of age, before hot, but not always. 50-50% chance. (is unlikely to be harmed and will remain emotionally stable, but the risk is high)
And unethical. Not a nice thing ...

Opinions are divided as each dog develops differently and has a different size, a different way of thinking. Generally, at 9 months of age, you should only stroke and kiss. Gently touch with mouth, etc.
Not to have sex.
It is possible to examine with a finger (careful) what it is like inside (curiosity, experience), but it must not be sex with fingers and it must not be dilated or stretched. The vagina is still sensitive and not developed.
She’s not even physically fit for it, mentally and emotionally especially not.

Not even in the first heat, because the dog experiences a hormone bomb, it is not recommended to stress.
After the first hot +2-3 months, when the hormones completely subside, it is about 1 year old, then you can examine what you like.
Chances are you’re already accepting intercourse, but you shouldn’t make it regular, just rehearsal. Just a "test".
The daily level of sexual life requires 1.5-2 years of age. The principle of gradation applies between the two.

I have had 7 dogs so far, each has developed completely differently at a young age. Some were fast, some were slow.
Now I also have two puppies/junior (1 year old), one of whom will definitely not have sex before the age of 2 because he is still a very puppy. The other is very active at the age of ~ 1 (14 months), wants sex, pulls off my pants, scratches my legs and licks and wants. Still, I'm careful with it.
There are approx. 200 large breeds of dogs, cannot be decided based on a one guide.

People also often start having sex at the age of 14, even though they will only be really mature at the age of 18-20. Some people don't have sex until then. It varies. In dogs, it varies in the same way that it can be started at 1 or 2 or 2.5 years of age.
Because the dog cannot speak, it requires a lot of experience and attention. In the case of a first dog, it is not advisable to force it, due to a lack of experience. Even with an adult, mature dog, a person is doing wrong a lot when having sex with him for the first time. Do not start with a young dog without experience. With such a young dog especially.

Your dog is not yet physically developed, as evidenced by the tight sheath. It will grow and expand in ~ half a year.
The sheath is a very muscular part of the body, if the dog doesn’t trust you and is afraid, it will squeeze you a lot. You feel this "bone." This dog still needs physical and mental development. Stay currently stroking and kissing.

Sorry my english.
this topic is only as complex as you make it seem to be.. it really isn't and totally can be solved by a simple blanket "fits all sizes" guide (like this one).... just follow a very simple rule of "absolutely no sexual contact before her second heat". there isn't a single breed that isn't fully mature and developed by then.
 
this topic is only as complex as you make it seem to be.. it really isn't and totally can be solved by a simple blanket "fits all sizes" guide (like this one).... just follow a very simple rule of "absolutely no sexual contact before her second heat". there isn't a single breed that isn't fully mature and developed by then.
I have seen female dogs that were bred on their first heat and had puppies. The puppies confuse them and they are not always able to care for them.

Of course there are exceptions, *BUT*, there are also a lot of other ways to get sexual gratification without risking your partner's health and well being.
 
this topic is only as complex as you make it seem to be.. it really isn't and totally can be solved by a simple blanket "fits all sizes" guide (like this one).... just follow a very simple rule of "absolutely no sexual contact before her second heat". there isn't a single breed that isn't fully mature and developed by then.
That's your believe. The reality is that most zoophiles have normal sex with their dog after the first hot one (~ 1 years). Although the dog is not fully mature, but it does not cause harm to it.
Too early sexual intercourse is not good. But it is also an exaggeration to wait for the second or third hot. And still the individual development of the dog is the main consideration, not the months measured in the calendar.
I rely on my experience. I don’t chase naive and hypocritical things. People often lie about the time of their first sex. They're not honest.
We are not in a church, we don’t have to show tales, we have experiences. And that is the experience.

I understand that this is an open forum and the zoo theme is very delicate. That’s why many people lie to not consider them zoo-pedo's. After the age of 1-1.5, a dog is no longer a puppy.
Young adult. Like a 16-18 year old people who already has sex in reality.
It’s funny to talk about this when a large proportion of zoo people have had sex with animals after the age of 10.
They also don’t take into account that the male dog fucks hard, doesn’t deal with pain and then puppies are born. A big strain on a young dog. Man is careful, gentle and does not give birth to puppies. Completely different.

With mental and emotional things carefully. It is not natural to have sex with a dog. It is not natural to have sex with outside of hot. Still, we do. This is also the case with age. A dog is an advanced animal, capable of transforming its natural sex life and having sex with humans. Of his own free will, out of love. I know. The ice is thin. It is difficult to distinguish between voluntary love and compliance with the master. But it doesn’t depend on the date of the first sex.

Like I said, I don’t like the hypocritical text. I believe in experience. It is not the months that decide (of course there is a minimum). The emotional connection with the dog, the attachment, the love, the time spent together, getting to know each other ... This tells you when the first sex is suitable. Let it be 1 ..., 1.5 ..., 2 ... years ... The dog decides and the dog shows it.
 
That's your believe. The reality is that most zoophiles have normal sex with their dog after the first hot one (~ 1 years). Although the dog is not fully mature, but it does not cause harm to it.
Too early sexual intercourse is not good. But it is also an exaggeration to wait for the second or third hot. And still the individual development of the dog is the main consideration, not the months measured in the calendar.
I rely on my experience. I don’t chase naive and hypocritical things. People often lie about the time of their first sex. They're not honest.
We are not in a church, we don’t have to show tales, we have experiences. And that is the experience.

I understand that this is an open forum and the zoo theme is very delicate. That’s why many people lie to not consider them zoo-pedo's. After the age of 1-1.5, a dog is no longer a puppy.
Young adult. Like a 16-18 year old people who already has sex in reality.
It’s funny to talk about this when a large proportion of zoo people have had sex with animals after the age of 10.
They also don’t take into account that the male dog fucks hard, doesn’t deal with pain and then puppies are born. A big strain on a young dog. Man is careful, gentle and does not give birth to puppies. Completely different.

With mental and emotional things carefully. It is not natural to have sex with a dog. It is not natural to have sex with outside of hot. Still, we do. This is also the case with age. A dog is an advanced animal, capable of transforming its natural sex life and having sex with humans. Of his own free will, out of love. I know. The ice is thin. It is difficult to distinguish between voluntary love and compliance with the master. But it doesn’t depend on the date of the first sex.

Like I said, I don’t like the hypocritical text. I believe in experience. It is not the months that decide (of course there is a minimum). The emotional connection with the dog, the attachment, the love, the time spent together, getting to know each other ... This tells you when the first sex is suitable. Let it be 1 ..., 1.5 ..., 2 ... years ... The dog decides and the dog shows it.
that's not just a belief of mine... it's literally the easiest and simplest advice one can give to someone with no experience. i'm not saying a girl can't be physically and mentally ready before that (tho i stand behind "nine months old is way too soon"). having experience (which i bet someone who asks why is his nine months old puppy "so tight" doesn't have) can and will help gauge that. experience a person with no experience obviously doesn't have. that makes simply waiting for her second heat the best, fool-proof advice you can give.... it's better to wait than to be sorry later. there's no need to rush things, you'll have plenty of time to explore each other.
 
The simple, practical reality of it is that if you rush things and cause her pain, she may never desire sex with you. That's why I say:
there are also a lot of other ways to get sexual gratification without risking your partner's health and well being.
If you want her desire sex out of heat, the absolutely necessary first step is to make sure that all of her sexual experiences are pleasant.
 
The simple, practical reality of it is that if you rush things and cause her pain, she may never desire sex with you.
it's weird this simple concept seems to elude so many ppl.... is not waiting six or so more months really worth the possibility of making it not-realy-pleasant or straight up undesirable experience for her forever? do these ppl even care?
 
that's not just a belief of mine... it's literally the easiest and simplest advice one can give to someone with no experience. i'm not saying a girl can't be physically and mentally ready before that (tho i stand behind "nine months old is way too soon"). having experience (which i bet someone who asks why is his nine months old puppy "so tight" doesn't have) can and will help gauge that. experience a person with no experience obviously doesn't have. that makes simply waiting for her second heat the best, fool-proof advice you can give.... it's better to wait than to be sorry later. there's no need to rush things, you'll have plenty of time to explore each other.
Yeah, I agree with that. She is too young at 9 months. There are dogs that is very wide at 9 months, but it is still too early even in that case.
He described that the dog is cramped/tight, so she is not physically able to have sex, of course it is forbidden to continue the vaginal route in this case. He still have to wait.

In my post, I wanted to point out that the second, third hot or 2 year old is not necessarily mandatory. A dog can be suitable for sex at ~ 12-14-16 months, it is individual. This will not "pedo".

A 9-month-old dog, on the other hand, is clearly young. Those 3-4-5 months (9 -> 12/14 months) matter a lot in development. But a dog may need more than that, 18-20-24 months.
 
Neutering and pyometra.
If you want to have sex, you don't neuter. This is a statute. A female dog is a perfect creation, a masterpiece, harmony, a miracle. An infinite beauty created by nature. We do not touch this with surgeries.

If so. After surgery on a healthy dog, sex depends on the procedure of the veterinarian. There are those who work so that sex is megamrad, there are those who sew everything and there is no sex. This needs to be discussed with the vet, so he needs to be told you are a zoo. This is dangerous and risky.
There is no surgery before the age of 6 months. The doctor who does it is a saraltan. Best after the first hot, between the first and the second hot. Or at any time under the age of 5.

Unfortunately, the pyometra is a lottery. It can develop at any time and in any dog. Only the percentage odds differ. It usually occurs at an older age (6-7 years) and 1-2 months after hot. But you can apply at other times.
If you have had puppies more than once, your chances are reduced, but not zero. During sex, cleanliness is very important, but the chances are not zero. There are dog breeds that have a lower chance, but not zero.
During the hot, sperm outside is reduced, but not zero.

Whatever tricks we use, the chances will never be zero.

The best word for this is the lottery. The dog's behavior should be monitored and taken to the doctor in case of even the slightest symptoms. Pyometra noticed in time has a medium chance of being treated with medication and maybe not require surgery.
If you need surgery, the sex is over, by all means. In the case of pyometra, everything is removed and sewn on because everything is inflamed and everything is purulent. And she has a very small chance, but of die.
 
In my post, I wanted to point out that the second, third hot or 2 year old is not necessarily mandatory. A dog can be suitable for sex at ~ 12-14-16 months, it is individual. This will not "pedo".
i never claimed it as mandatory, just the simplest and easiest to explain way to be 100% sure she's fully developed and ready for anything sexual.

a simple "wait for her second heat" seems easier to understand to inexperienced ppl than wall of text of what you can look for which may or may not mean she's ready and you're not endangering her physical or mental development in any way.
 
I have a big girl who’s around 3 years old and I was planning on attempting to lose my virginity to her on Friday, but she is not currently in heat. She seems to be interested in sex with me though but I wanted to double check on here before I did anything, would it be acceptable for me to attempt sex with her if she is not currently in heat? I know a lot of people do but my girl has never had pups before and I’m pretty sure she’s a virgin too, so I was wondering if it would be better to wait for her next heat before trying anything.
 
I have a big girl who’s around 3 years old and I was planning on attempting to lose my virginity to her on Friday, but she is not currently in heat. She seems to be interested in sex with me though but I wanted to double check on here before I did anything, would it be acceptable for me to attempt sex with her if she is not currently in heat? I know a lot of people do but my girl has never had pups before and I’m pretty sure she’s a virgin too, so I was wondering if it would be better to wait for her next heat before trying anything.
it's solely up to her and how she reacts to your approach. some breeds take longer to fully mature, but i'd say 3 years is very likely old enough.
 
it's solely up to her and how she reacts to your approach. some breeds take longer to fully mature, but i'd say 3 years is very likely old enough.
I know that she is old enough for sex, my question is would it be alright for me to attempt to make love to her while she is not in heat? Or would it be more advisable to wait until she is in heat for both our first times? Thanks for the reply though.
 
I know that she is old enough for sex, my question is would it be alright for me to attempt to make love to her while she is not in heat? Or would it be more advisable to wait until she is in heat for both our first times? Thanks for the reply though.
No need to wait for the hot. It’s a sensitive time for the dog, it’s not good to show a completely unknown and weird thing at this time.
In addition, it is swollen, narrower, harder to get into, the hymen rupture is also more hard.
You have to be careful, she will be afraid and bother her first.
 
No need to wait for the hot. It’s a sensitive time for the dog, it’s not good to show a completely unknown and weird thing at this time.
In addition, it is swollen, narrower, harder to get into, the hymen rupture is also more hard.
You have to be careful, she will be afraid and bother her first.
So you’re saying it would actually be better to take her virginity while she’s not in heat? That’s actually surprising but the way you put it makes sense. Is there anything I can do to make breaking her hymen as painless as possible for her as well as giving her a good first time as well as myself?
 
Is there anything I can do to make breaking her hymen as painless as possible for her as well as giving her a good first time as well as myself?
Wait until she is in heat for her first time because will change her body to make it less painful for her. Wait until she is passing the peak of her heat and she will loosen up. Finally, give her an orgasm by stimulating her clit before you penetrate her and she will be full of endorphins.
 
No need to wait for the hot. It’s a sensitive time for the dog, it’s not good to show a completely unknown and weird thing at this time.
In addition, it is swollen, narrower, harder to get into, the hymen rupture is also more hard.
You have to be careful, she will be afraid and bother her first.
and
Wait until she is in heat for her first time because will change her body to make it less painful for her. Wait until she is passing the peak of her heat and she will loosen up. Finally, give her an orgasm by stimulating her clit before you penetrate her and she will be full of endorphins.
kind of contradictory

So what's the best way to do it ?
p.s. didn't know fdogs have hymen...
 
kind of contradictory
Mouse over our names and compare experience and reputation. Read some previous posts. (One of my first was the male dog guide)

Or try logic: because it is much simpler for a human to adopt dog ways than for a dog to assume human behaviors, the closer you remain to canine norms the easier it will be for the dog to understand and adapt to your desires. You can branch out other positions and behaviors after you have mastered the simple ones.
 
So what's the best way to do it
Whichever way is most comfortable for the dog. I've done both. The first time I mated with my newfie girl, she was out of heat, but still very receptive. My mutt mix on the other hand was not willing to mate until the 3rd heat cycle that she was with me. Out of heat she just doesn't care for sex and I respect her wishes on the matter. She loves for me to finger her though, oddly enough.

As a general rule of thumb the best time to start is when they are in heat. Like Cai mentioned, being in heat is when they normally breed with other dogs. It's the time that's most natural for the dog to want to mate. So letting them know that you're a viable sexual partner during heat makes the most sense to the dog in question.


p.s. didn't know fdogs have hymen...
Sometimes dogs will have an intact hymen after the first heat cycle. This is known as a "persistent hymen" however the majority of the time it ruptures as the female dog is maturing. However, it can rupture just before or during the first heat on its own without sex even occurring. This can be painful, which is another reason as to why the first heat should be about comfort rather than sex.
 
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