Is it safe to conclude that you're good if the male's girth/size are larger than your own?There are a few, but it really is a gamble. A list of breeds I've heard men successfully mate with... Boarder collies, Australian Shepherd, Huskies on the smaller end of the spectrum, corgis, beagles, samoyeds, coonhounds, and dalmatians. I wouldn't go in expecting the majority of these breeds to be able to take an average human sized cock with ease, but there are some that can. Realistically, trying to have sex with a female dog smaller than 50 lbs is a giant gamble. Most of the time I recommend 55lbs and larger, although there have been some cases where a 35lb dog could take a regular human sized cock with ease.
There are two major indicators to look out for. 1) How wide the hip are on the female dog. 2) How large the cock is on average for the male dog of any given breed. Beagles are a good example of the latter case. They tend to be compact but the males tend of have pretty large tools compared to their relatively small size. With that you can generally expect a female beagle to be equipped to handle the male's equipment. But it all boils down to a case-by-case bases. But again, 55lbs or larger is your safest bet for a human male with an average sized penis length, and an average sized penis girth.
Not always, usually the male dog's penis enters semi flaccid and expands once he's fully inside her. While the mechanics of a human penis is to stroke until reaching orgasm, all the while getting larger as you approach orgasm. Sometimes mating for the female is uncomfortable and even painful because the male is too large, or the female's vaginal tract is too tight. This type of pain is more common with female canines that haven't birthed pups, and especially canines that are younger virgins. Usually females of the same breed can safely mate with their male counterparts, but it doesn't always mean that it will be painless for her. It's best to finger her gently with clean/washed fingers and very short nails, to gage the size of her tract. That's of course if she's okay with you fingering her in the first place. Stretching through continuous fingering may be needed, but not always. It's something you'll have to play by ear.Is it safe to conclude that you're good if the male's girth/size are larger than your own?
You mean she is only 8month old ? Definitely not if so, wait until 2nd heat before penetrative sex, until then only fingering is allowed afaikA friend of my has a female border collie and he allows me to do things with her (she ass well allows it) but i never seem to get more then a finger in. she is 2/3 years old, would it be possible if she is in heat?
No she is 2 or 3 years old (not sure)You mean she is only 8month old ? Definitely not if so, wait until 2nd heat before penetrative sex, until then only fingering is allowed afaik
Slightly metallic.what do their pussies smell/taste like?
There are a few, but it really is a gamble. A list of breeds I've heard men successfully mate with... Boarder collies, Australian Shepherd, Huskies on the smaller end of the spectrum, corgis, beagles, samoyeds, coonhounds, and dalmatians. Realistically, trying to have sex with a female dog smaller than 50 lbs is a giant gamble.
although there have been some cases where a 35lb dog could take a regular human sized cock with ease.
Beagles are a good example of the latter case.
But it all boils down to a case-by-case bases. But again, 55lbs or larger is your safest bet for a human male with an average sized penis length, and an average sized penis girth.
A membrane with a small hole in it sounds like the exact definition of a hymn also you can not spay her if you don't want to but dozens of clinical studies have repeatedly shown spaying is one of the safest medical procedures you can put a pet through.Yeah she's intact. Got her from a local reputable breeder and I've been back several times since. We've had several nice long talks about the breed and about my dog in particular. He said that salukis are known for not going into season until they feel like they are ready for it. This is an extremely old breed going back thousands of years, so they aren't like typical dogs who go into heat early.
I remember one of the very first things he told me was to not let a vet talk me into getting her spayed. There's no reason for it and it's expensive as well as risky for the dog. Additionally I bought her when she was only 5 months old and there was never any scar where the spay takes place.
I'm still very much wanting to know what this tight spot is. I'm guessing not a hymen. Though it feels like a membrane with a hole in it that is maybe 5mm wide that doesn't stretch. That's not what it would feel like if it was just her clenching, would it? Or maybe this is simply because she hasn't been in season yet?
A overy retaining spay is gaining popularity it does still leave them at risk of ovarian cancer but it's actually quite a rare condition pyo or uterine cancer is WAY more commonI don't know if there is a vet treatment or medicine (I'm sure there is; I'll probably look into that), but I have read that pregnancy will "reset" her uterus, and that if she has pups every few years the chances of pyometra are low. Also, it's more prominent in some breeds than others, and some un-bred, intact girls may never have any problems (whether they are having sex or not). They are more at risk when they get older, but IMO you should have them full-stayed when they reach their "golden years" to protect against pyometra and ovarian cancer.
From what I understand, there is a "spaying" operation gaining popularity where they remove the uterus only, but leave the ovaries and vagina. The dog gets to keep her natural sex hormones (which studies show is healthier for them), and still have heat cycles if, I remember correctly. They may be at risk of ovarian cancer later in life.
A overy retaining spay is gaining popularity it does still leave them at risk of ovarian cancer but it's actually quite a rare condition pyo or uterine cancer is WAY more common
Now, she is 9 months old and weighs 74 pounds. She has not gone into heat yet,
I cannot fit TWO fingers inside. I've tried. I can fit two fingers in just a little ways, maybe half way in before it is FIRMLY too tight to go further in. The walls of her pussy are extremely unyielding to pressure as I try to push in more.
To put it bluntly, if you are sexually active with your dog before her first heat you should stop immediately. You're basically being sexually active with a prepubescent child. Sure this "child" has 4 legs, a tail, and fur, but it doesn't make it any less wrong. Likely you are causing her more damage than you realize. To reiterate what I've said a page ago, yes, there are zoos that have gotten away with being sexually active with female dogs on their first heat. But this is something that is highly unwise. The potential to unintentionally cause harm (both physical and phycological) is significantly higher when they are younger and still developing down there as well as mentally. Their vaginal walls have not matured and are highly sensitive and one tiny miscalculation could mean a lot of pain for her. Pain which she'll likely associate with any sexual activity moving forward.My girl was basically the same way before her first heat, one finger was all that she could fit and it wouldn’t go in very deep. She came into her first heat at 8.5 months and weighed 76 pounds I think.
When she came into heat last month it felt like she was swollen shut. After the swelling went down and she went into standing heat she was wide open and I could easily slip a finger in as far as it would reach (she even milked it which felt amazing).
just one question:It's that time again to ask about this topic.
If you scroll up, you can see old posts by me asking regarding my girl who was going into heat for the first time. I've come to terms with the fact that because of her breed, she's simply too small to mate with and it's going to stay that way. She's had two heats now and is about 3 1/2 years old. She's a fantastic and beautiful dog, but she's just too small to mate with.
HOWEVER... I have a second dog now, who I have not introduced to this community. She's a lot bigger. I got her as a pup in February 2021 at 9 weeks of age. Now, she is 9 months old and weighs 74 pounds. She has not gone into heat yet, but she's been changing physically and I wanted to share that here.
In the last month or two, she's gotten nipples, and they are not big like a pregnant bitch, but they are visible. Her vulva has also gotten a lot bigger, especially in the last month. I suspect she may go into heat soon, and a couple of the intact male dogs from the dog park agree, in that they are particularly interested in her pussy.
She has NOT started spotting yet, so I'm not sure if this is a false heat or what. I've been experimenting with her to see what she likes.
She very much enjoys a pussy rubbing and will hump when I do it. Also, she enjoys when I put a finger inside. The vestibule is a lot bigger than my other dog's. A finger slips inside super easy, with almost no resistance. At the end of the vestibule, there is the tight ring which leads to the vagina. This is nearly a full finger-length inside, and I can put a whole digit of my middle finger past the opening while the rest of my finger is buried to the hilt. She enjoys when I thrust in and out of her with a finger and gets excited after I pull it out, licking it and then chasing her tail for a while.
Here's where we get to my questions.
I cannot fit TWO fingers inside. I've tried. I can fit two fingers in just a little ways, maybe half way in before it is FIRMLY too tight to go further in. The walls of her pussy are extremely unyielding to pressure as I try to push in more. I pay very close attention to her comfort level, and she DOES NOT MIND when I do this, however she is simply too small to fit 2 fingers inside all the way. I keep thinking I'm hurting her when I push but she shows no signs of pain and is just casually standing there looking around at interesting things that catch her eye. In fact, when I push harder, it hurts my fingers! It's that tight.
What I'm wondering is the reason for this tightness. If it's simply that she has not gone into heat yet, then that's fine. It would explain things. But maybe that's not it. If she does go into heat, won't that make things even tighter? Again, one finger goes in super easy. Two... impossible because it's like there is a firm wall made of bone or something preventing anything wider going in. Of course I know it's not bone. After all, pups come out so somehow it has to be able to stretch. Just right now it is NOT stretchy in the slightest. It is firm.
Regarding mating, well, I'm well endowed unfortunately (what an odd thing to say). My penis is considerably more girth than 2 fingers. So mating with her is literally impossible even though she's happy to let me try. I can't even get the head in but she likes when I rub it up and down her lips.
Any feedback is appreciated. Hoping she does go into heat soon and that it will fix the tightness problem. Hoping that this is all simply because she is only 9 months old. She's a big breed, and at 74 pounds, she's a bigger dog than many adults who I know are big enough to mate with. If you have any insight, please let me know.
you're @Ebonstar?You guys are right. Too many of us have let ourselves get out of control and ultimately there is no one else to blame but ourselves. I am totally guilty and I own it, I regret it and if the outcome is that I never get to have an intimate bond with my partner, well I deserve that.
Personally I will be re-evaluating who I talk to own on here as I have been guilty of falling under their influence and taking things too far too fast. I’m completely ashamed of myself and the way I have contributed to this awful culture of masturbatory relationships with non-humans. I appreciate all who have helped me to realize this and I ask for forgiveness knowing full well I may not receive it. It is time to do better for my partner and for the community. To both I offer my deepest apologies.
If you read my above reply I quoted The Seeker's now deleted post, where he admitted that he did the same. The original sequence was Ebon, Seeker, and then myself.you're @Ebonstar?
it's not about asking for or getting forgiveness from strangers on the internet. it's about our partners getting the best life possible. letting a puppy just be a puppy is a start of that.
I know you were in contact with at least one zoo on here that advised you not to be intimate with your girl, but you ended going against his advice. If people are trying to persuade you into inappropriate behavior you need to cut contact with them.You guys are right. Too many of us have let ourselves get out of control and ultimately there is no one else to blame but ourselves. I am totally guilty and I own it, I regret it and if the outcome is that I never get to have an intimate bond with my partner, well I deserve that.
Personally I will be re-evaluating who I talk to own on here as I have been guilty of falling under their influence and taking things too far too fast. I’m completely ashamed of myself and the way I have contributed to this awful culture of masturbatory relationships with non-humans. I appreciate all who have helped me to realize this and I ask for forgiveness knowing full well I may not receive it. It is time to do better for my partner and for the community. To both I offer my deepest apologies.
Wow, you know you guys are taking this way out of context. In NO way have I done any harm to my dog. The entire context of what I have attempted with her is not how you are taking it. I realize the internet and text is easy to misunderstand, but you are making assumptions here. The #1 thing I have been paying attention to in every interaction with my dog has been her comfort level. I've never done anything she's shown even a small amount of discomfort with. And everything I've done was only after consulting other far more experienced zoos on this site to make sure I wasn't taking things too far.you're @Ebonstar?
it's not about asking for or getting forgiveness from strangers on the internet. it's about our partners getting the best life possible. letting a puppy just be a puppy is a start of that.
Right. Well, I am taking this advice as valuable.If you read my above reply I quoted The Seeker's now deleted post, where he admitted that he did the same. The original sequence was Ebon, Seeker, and then myself.
I know you were in contact with at least one zoo on here that advised you not to be intimate with your girl, but you ended going against his advice. If people are trying to persuade you into inappropriate behavior you need to cut contact with them.
You have to remember that you're an "owner" now. You have a dog now that is dependent on you and your guidance. Dogs are by nature highly emotional and social creatures because humanity shaped them to be this way through thousands of years of artificial selection. But you HAVE to let her be a dog first, as she is still an animal, as well as a living creature subjected to stages of development from puppyhood to adult. She should only be a potential sexual partner as long as she's comfortable and of age. If groom a puppy into a sexual relationship the outcome will most likely be an emotionally and mentally damaged dog. She may have sex with you, but not of her own will. She will have been trained to put up with it because "it's what makes master happy" and isn't something that makes her happy. This type of one-sided relationship is no better than someone grooming a child for the same purposes, selfish self-sexual gratification. She may develop behaviors of neuroticism and aggression as you've interrupted the natural progression of puppyhood development, or she may not. Only time will tell.
2 months to a year and a half may not seem like a long span of time in human terms, but those months are absolutely critical for development and will shape the dog into the adult they eventually end up becoming. That's why some zoos will tell you it's best to wait until their 3rd heat. But ideally second heat should be the minimum.
You cannot change your prior actions of the past, but it's not too late to change your actions moving forward for the betterment of your girl.
i'm sure anyone who gave you the "go ahead" to do stuff to a puppy is "far more experienced". did they ask for pics if you're doing it right as well?Wow, you know you guys are taking this way out of context. In NO way have I done any harm to my dog. The entire context of what I have attempted with her is not how you are taking it. I realize the internet and text is easy to misunderstand, but you are making assumptions here. The #1 thing I have been paying attention to in every interaction with my dog has been her comfort level. I've never done anything she's shown even a small amount of discomfort with. And everything I've done was only after consulting other far more experienced zoos on this site to make sure I wasn't taking things too far.