What is wrong with some men here and everywhere?

[allyfitz]

So what makes you the arbiter of truth??

Can you show me where I said I was?

Also why did you jump to passive aggressively attacking their mental health??

I read that persons other comments in other threads. Many people have read their comments and told them to see a therapist or other professional help. Their behavior is such that many people have commented on it. That's not 'jumping to' anything. That's responding to clearly displayed behavior... to the point that multiple people have noticed it.

If they did have mental health would that mean they're no longer allowed a valid opinion??

If they really do have a mental health issue... It would mean that they would be better suited by seeking professional help than arguing with people online.

And people with real problems don't get over it, they carry it forever and just adapt too it

That's called getting over it and getting on with their lives.

which usually means your problems weren't as bad as you think so don't weaponise them in an arguement...

I didn't bring my problems into the discussion.

Who knows maybe my licensed therapist doesn't know what he's talking about

You should ask your licensed therapist what they think about you exposing your dick to people without their consent.

And while you're talking to your therapist about things... ask them if women are to blame for children being raped because those women werent willing to put out for guys... cause that's an argument he's made.

People who do that to children do it because they don't have a woman for sexual release, and instead of rape they think that doing what happened to you is the safe way to stay out of trouble. That just goes back to the point that men have needs, and they need met, and when they are not met (i.e. women refusing to engage in a relationship) it comes out bad. That's why we have high crime rates.

 

[pet love]

"Consent" is a fabricated notion of politics meant to derail society from the natural course of nature. Breeding is completely normal and natural. A dog hops up and starts to hump, if the female doesn't like it she moves or fights, sometimes the male obeys and sometimes they don't.

Question isn't about consent or non-consent, it's about WHY (italics). If you could please indulge an ignorant guy like myself on what's hard about consent, and what determines why you would give consent or not, maybe men would have a better understanding on respecting women when it comes to this matter. Because in my mind your arguments and complaints are ridiculous, unmerited, lack logic and human understanding.

Is it hard for a woman to give consent or something? What makes you decide to give consent or not to?

You are partially correct in saying that consent is political driven and its there to derail society. I dont think derail is the correct term but it is more like confuse society. Im sure that alot of people can relate to wanting to ask someone out on a date but with the way the system has headed people are now too afraid to make the first move as they will be classified as sexually harassing the person. The same thing happens when making a move towards having sexual relations. Both parties agree to having sex and then halfway through one party shouts out date rape. Definitely something wrong with that picture. Everyone is confused and afraid. You brush up against someone in a bar these days and you get charged for sexual harrasment. Bit of a joke dont you think. I would say that all this is in an attempt to turn us into a genderless society and a society that lives in fear. Gone are the days of normality where one person can take a liking to another and then form a decent relationship. I agree that consent should be acknowledged and adhered too by all parties but unfortunately there are a select few who have made life difficult for the majority in society and thats from both sides. Doesnt matter if your M or F or anything in between. NO means NO but be upfront about it and call it early in the piece.. Dont call out NO when some one is halfway through having an orgasm. Thats just nasty. Im not sure if a woman can just abandon climaxing halfway into orgasming. I know for a man its difficult too near impossible to stop the motions once it starts. In a way I can see why society is as angry as it is and why there is so much violence. Its because of frustration which leads to confusion and the final result is violence/aggression. Combine this with testosterone or estrogen and its a recipe for disaster. Cant we just turn back the clock when people were normal and thinking logically. There was alot less assaults back in the day than what it is now. Also the sexual frustration has led to other crimes and hatred. This is with males and females. Pushing to become a genderless society has many flaws and disadvantages. I for one wont be genderless and am proud to wear the badge of being male. Women should be proud to wear the badge of being female as well. Doesnt matter what your sexual preferences are Im sure we can all live in peace with each other. In saying that there will always be a few knobs (m & F) out there in all parts of society and the world who will never do the right thing no matter what.

 

[AngryGoose]

Can you show me where I said I was?

You said it with your actions

I read that persons other comments in other threads. Many people have read their comments and told them to see a therapist or other professional help. Their behavior is such that many people have commented on it. That's not 'jumping to' anything. That's responding to clearly displayed behavior... to the point that multiple people have noticed it.

Maybe, I haven't seen em and all those people could be wrong... So far there's a bunch of people in here whining about nudes when the polls seem to indicate that most people don't mind, are the people complaining in here right?? From a democratic point of view it looks like no so far... Like how do I know you didn't get into an argument and didn't like the rebuttals you were getting so you pulled a Twitter and called them crazy?? Either way, that was a different thread and not this one... Get over it and grow up, this is not that other thread

If they really do have a mental health issue... It would mean that they would be better suited by seeking professional help than arguing with people online.

Got nothing to do with this argument and you know it mate now stop being petty

That's called getting over it and getting on with their lives.

No because it stays with you everyday, maybe getting on with their lives but it's not getting over it, getting over it implies forgetting in my opinion

I didn't bring my problems into the discussion.

No, you bought someone else's problems into it because you didn't like the way the argument was going

You should ask your licensed therapist what they think about you exposing your dick to people without their consent.

Don't look at it then or... Get over it, grow up and move on

I will, viewing beastiality porn is legal where I live and there's doctor patient confidentiality to boot, I see him in 2 days so I'll see what he says

 

[allyfitz]

Both parties agree to having sex and then halfway through one party shouts out date rape. Definitely something wrong with that picture.

That bullshit is totally wrong. IMHO, women who falsely accuse a man of rape should be subject to the same prison time that men are if they were found guilty. I know some people will say that doing so will cause women not to report rape, but If you make the bar for burden of proof of both to be equal you sohuldnt end up with improper convictions on either side.

Also... there's a solution that no one wants to talk about in response to date rape issues... don't have sex with someone outside of a committed relationship.

 

[AngryGoose]

You are partially correct in saying that consent is political driven and its there to derail society. I dont think derail is the correct term but it is more like confuse society. Im sure that alot of people can relate to wanting to ask someone out on a date but with the way the system has headed people are now too afraid to make the first move as they will be classified as sexually harassing the person. The same thing happens when making a move towards having sexual relations. Both parties agree to having sex and then halfway through one party shouts out date rape. Definitely something wrong with that picture. Everyone is confused and afraid. You brush up against someone in a bar these days and you get charged for sexual harrasment. Bit of a joke dont you think. I would say that all this is in an attempt to turn us into a genderless society and a society that lives in fear. Gone are the days of normality where one person can take a liking to another and then form a decent relationship. I agree that consent should be acknowledged and adhered too by all parties but unfortunately there are a select few who have made life difficult for the majority in society and thats from both sides. Doesnt matter if your M or F or anything in between. NO means NO but be upfront about it and call it early in the piece.. Dont call out NO when some one is halfway through having an orgasm. Thats just nasty. Im not sure if a woman can just abandon climaxing halfway into orgasming. I know for a man its difficult too near impossible to stop the motions once it starts. In a way I can see why society is as angry as it is and why there is so much violence. Its because of frustration which leads to confusion and the final result is violence/aggression. Combine this with testosterone or estrogen and its a recipe for disaster. Cant we just turn back the clock when people were normal and thinking logically. There was alot less assaults back in the day than what it is now. Also the sexual frustration has led to other crimes and hatred. This is with males and females. Pushing to become a genderless society has many flaws and disadvantages. I for one wont be genderless and am proud to wear the badge of being male. Women should be proud to wear the badge of being female as well. Doesnt matter what your sexual preferences are Im sure we can all live in peace with each other. In saying that there will always be a few knobs (m & F) out there in all parts of society and the world who will never do the right thing no matter what.

I ain't fucking touching this with a ten foot pole

 

[pet love]

Heres an idea. As per covid19. Maybe we should all fill out forms before we approach someone requesting permission to talk to them or ask them out. Yet alone anything else. This will save alot of problems and would then stand up in the court of law as a contract giving or not giving permision to engage with the other person.

 

[AngryGoose]

That bullshit is totally wrong. IMHO, women who falsely accuse a man of rape should be subject to the same prison time that men are if they were found guilty. I know some people will say that doing so will cause women not to report rape, but If you make the bar for burden of proof of both to be equal you sohuldnt end up with improper convictions on either side.

Yes 100%

Also... there's a solution that no one wants to talk about in response to date rape issues... don't have sex with someone outside of a committed relationship.

Do you have sex outside commited relationships??

 

[allyfitz]

You said it with your actions

Oh, so we're playing that game where we just make claims of what someone has said even though they havent... you really want to play by those rules?
You're the one defending the person with pro-pedo comments... do you really want to go down that road?

Maybe, I haven't seen em and all those people could be wrong...

So you haven't seen them... but you're going to tell me that me and everyone else that did read them that they're wrong.

Either way, that was a different thread and not this one... Get over it and grow up, this is not that other thread

Its on this site though. Threads dont exist in isolation here. The way someone behaves on site and the things they say matters on this site.

No because it stays with you everyday, maybe getting on with their lives but it's not getting over it, getting over it implies forgetting in my opinion

I never said to forget about. I never even suggested it. You're debating things I've never said... which you've done before. Debate and disagree with what I've said... not what you imagine I'm thinking.

No, you bought someone else's problems into it because you didn't like the way the argument was going

No I brought someone elses OWN COMMENTS into it. How can you have a discussion with someone if you're not allowed to reference what they've said? Oh right... you do what you've already done to me twice... make up something they havent said and talk about that.

Don't look at it then or... Get over it, grow up and move on

Proving my point about you before, no respect of anyone else. Only care about what you want to do.
I didn't have a choice not to see it. I scrolled down the thread and there it was.
Try whipping your dick out in a public library or restaurant and then tell the police that it's their fault for looking at it.
I didn't want to see your cock but you forced me to see it. I'm not traumatized by it, because it's a pathetic cock... I feel more sympathy for you having seen it than I feel bad for myself having seen it.

I will, viewing beastiality porn is legal where I live and there's doctor patient confidentiality to boot, I see him in 2 days so I'll see what he says

Beastiality has nothing to do with it being ok to expose yourself to people without their consent.
Also, make sure to ask about your buddies pedo comments. I'm sure we're all interested in what they say about that.

 

[allyfitz]

Do you have sex outside commited relationships??

I have in the past with other women and by doing so I've risked what could happen as a result.
I wouldn't have any right to complain if they threw me under the bus, because I knew they had no reason to be loyal to me... which is why I don't do that anymore.

 

[AngryGoose]

I have in the past with other women and by doing so I've risked what could happen as a result.
I wouldn't have any right to complain if they threw me under the bus, because I knew they had no reason to be loyal to me... which is why I don't do that anymore.

That shouldn't be a mindset you have to develop though.... I'm sorry man

 

[pet love]

That bullshit is totally wrong. IMHO, women who falsely accuse a man of rape should be subject to the same prison time that men are if they were found guilty. I know some people will say that doing so will cause women not to report rape, but If you make the bar for burden of proof of both to be equal you sohuldnt end up with improper convictions on either side.

Also... there's a solution that no one wants to talk about in response to date rape issues... don't have sex with someone outside of a committed relationship.

I disagree. Women have vaginas and men have penises. Vaginas always get classified as a weaker part of the species so they trump us guys and always win no matter what....... hahahahahahahaha

Seriously there are just as many men out there that get raped everyday but no one cares because they are men.

 

[DogWhore4U]

I think this troll is using ChatGPT or something.
There is no way a rational human being would have said those two sentences back to back.
Which is ironic coming from someone who wants to ask about "logic" all the time.

You are partially correct in saying that consent is political driven and its there to derail society. I dont think derail is the correct term but it is more like confuse society. Im sure that alot of people can relate to wanting to ask someone out on a date but with the way the system has headed people are now too afraid to make the first move as they will be classified as sexually harassing the person. The same thing happens when making a move towards having sexual relations. Both parties agree to having sex and then halfway through one party shouts out date rape. Definitely something wrong with that picture. Everyone is confused and afraid. You brush up against someone in a bar these days and you get charged for sexual harrasment. Bit of a joke dont you think. I would say that all this is in an attempt to turn us into a genderless society and a society that lives in fear. Gone are the days of normality where one person can take a liking to another and then form a decent relationship. I agree that consent should be acknowledged and adhered too by all parties but unfortunately there are a select few who have made life difficult for the majority in society and thats from both sides. Doesnt matter if your M or F or anything in between. NO means NO but be upfront about it and call it early in the piece.. Dont call out NO when some one is halfway through having an orgasm. Thats just nasty. Im not sure if a woman can just abandon climaxing halfway into orgasming. I know for a man its difficult too near impossible to stop the motions once it starts. In a way I can see why society is as angry as it is and why there is so much violence. Its because of frustration which leads to confusion and the final result is violence/aggression. Combine this with testosterone or estrogen and its a recipe for disaster. Cant we just turn back the clock when people were normal and thinking logically. There was alot less assaults back in the day than what it is now. Also the sexual frustration has led to other crimes and hatred. This is with males and females. Pushing to become a genderless society has many flaws and disadvantages. I for one wont be genderless and am proud to wear the badge of being male. Women should be proud to wear the badge of being female as well. Doesnt matter what your sexual preferences are Im sure we can all live in peace with each other. In saying that there will always be a few knobs (m & F) out there in all parts of society and the world who will never do the right thing no matter what.

You are 200% correct. In fact so correct I might just guess you're IQ to be 134, and acclaim you to be spiritually enlightened.

It's not like this by chance, it's intentional. It's harder for men, and I believe it's intentionally rigged this way on men...but then we have to account the side effect of this, which just deprived women sexually along with men...then it becomes a mass-matter of "I need my sex needs met or something bad's going to happen"...even if nothing illegal happens, then we have to deal with single parentage...leading into poverty...and the psychological and emotional damage these poor kids suffer from....then they're getting in trouble at school and being arrested, never get to college and live broke as an adult with a broken life.

The system made our society this way for a reason, and they are fully aware of the side effects and damages it causes...but, we've got SOME PEOPLE (not you) who can't make a logical realization about these things, and don't give two horse turds.

There's really only one way to fix it all, and that's to completely reverse everything and go back to traditionalism and conservatism in the domestic life. But, nooo! Apparently having a man take care of everything and spoil a woman isn't good enough anymore.

 

[allyfitz]

That shouldn't be a mindset you have to develop though.... I'm sorry man

That's the nature of sexual relations without any commitment. It's literally tit-for-tat. There's no expectation for anything beyond that.... precisely because there is no commitment.

 

[DogWhore4U]

I disagree. Women have vaginas and men have penises. Vaginas always get classified as a weaker part of the species so they trump us guys and always win no matter what....... hahahahahahahaha

Seriously there are just as many men out there that get raped everyday but no one cares because they are men.

That's very true. In fact I read an article last month, the groups of women are going around both Africa and the United States and kidnapping men and raping them for hours and hours and hours and hours.

 

[pet love]

On a serious note....... For the people out there who have genuinely suffered at the hands of another I do genuinely feel for you and I hope that there is some justice in life that eases your pain. For the NON genuine people I dont know how you can sleep at night knowing what you have done and how you have destroyed someones body and soul.

 

[allyfitz]

I need my sex needs met or something bad's going to happen

Sex is a desire, it is not a biological need. People need to stop acting like sex is like food.
You can live without sex. You cant live without food.
You might not want to live without sex, but you can. You might not be happy, but you'll live.
It's a want, not a need.

Many men have gone without sex. Hell, tons of married men go without sex... they don't go raping children or committing crime.

 

[pet love]

That's very true. In fact I read an article last month, the groups of women are going around both Africa and the United States and kidnapping men and raping them for hours and hours and hours and hours.

Unfortunately we live in a very one sided narrow minded society. Everyone wants or portrays themselves as being a do saint but in reality the ones pointing fingers are usually the worst culprits of that particular crime.

 

[ZooDogLover320]

I always assumed dudes that did that were gay and wanting other men to see it... the fact that you said they are messaging a female is absolute cringe to me. Now if its a dog dick? Perfectly fine

 

[allyfitz]

There's really only one way to fix it all, and that's to completely reverse everything and go back to traditionalism and conservatism in the domestic life. But, nooo! Apparently having a man take care of everything and spoil a woman isn't good enough anymore.

While I don't think that would fix everything, I actually do think that would fix a bunch of issues we have in society today. Americans tend to overcompensate when addressing issues. Forcibly restricting women from working wasn't right... but the current extreme view that women have to work a career or they're horrible people is a massive over correction.
How a couple decides to balance work/home life should be between them and no one else. If they both want to work, fine. If they want the man to work and the woman to be the home caretaker, that's fine too.

I do think its comical how some women think being a stay at home wife is akin to slavery, but working a +40 for another man at a job who can tell her what to do and she has to do it is empowering... is kinda funny.

 

[pet love]

Lets put it in perspective. Sexual intercourse is a release of tention and energy. Visit mrs palmer and her 5 daughters if one is sexually driven with heaps of testosterone. If that fails then ther is always a whore house. There is no reason for abuse in any way or form. If one has a low sex drive then make it known to the other person before leading them into a scenario where they call out rape because the other person has a high sex drive. Also if a guy doesnt release the tension in his sack then his balls will litterally ache until he releases the load. Not a fact that many people want to hear but its true.

BTW....... working a 40hr week is slavery to the system. Staying at home and being your own boss is independence. How can I get a bit of independence?????????????????????

 

[allyfitz]

I always assumed dudes that did that were gay and wanting other men to see it... the fact that you said they are messaging a female is absolute cringe to me. Now if its a dog dick? Perfectly fine

Ya know... now that I'm thinking about it... of all the PMs I've gotten here that are dick pics... I dont think a guy has ever sent me a pic of his dogs dick... it's always been his dick.

 

[pet love]

I always assumed dudes that did that were gay and wanting other men to see it... the fact that you said they are messaging a female is absolute cringe to me. Now if its a dog dick? Perfectly fine

They may be bi or just confused.

 

[pet love]

Ya know... now that I'm thinking about it... of all the PMs I've gotten here that are dick pics... I dont think a guy has ever sent me a pic of his dogs dick... it's always been his dick.

Now you see the connection.

 

[allyfitz]

Visit mrs palmer and her 5 daughters if one is sexually driven with heaps of testosterone. If that fails then ther is always a whore house.

They could also buy a sex doll and plow that thing morning, noon, and night.

 

[ZooDogLover320]

Ya know... now that I'm thinking about it... of all the PMs I've gotten here that are dick pics... I dont think a guy has ever sent me a pic of his dogs dick... it's always been his dick.

Well I just dont understand that. Isnt a dogs dick just like, waaay more appealing? Why would I show you my boring everyday 8-5 dick? Lmao, my dogs is prettier

 

[AngryGoose]

Oh, so we're playing that game where we just make claims of what someone has said even though they havent... you really want to play by those rules?
You're the one defending the person with pro-pedo comments... do you really want to go down that road?

I haven't seen em and I would be fucking retarded if I took someone's word for it over the internet

You claimed they were trying to be the arbiter if truth because they had an opinion... Please tell me that what you're doing rn is anything different

So you haven't seen them... but you're going to tell me that me and everyone else that did read them that they're wrong.

No I'm saying they could be wrong and I think you know that, please stop using a thread I haven't seen in this argument because I think it's irrelevant and pathetic... We are not here to argue about that thread

Its on this site though. Threads dont exist in isolation here. The way someone behaves on site and the things they say matters on this site.

Dude wtf are you talking about, you clearly have issues with that thread that you can't get over and I really don't care about it and all its doing is taking us off topic

I never said to forget about. I never even suggested it. You're debating things I've never said... which you've done before. Debate and disagree with what I've said... not what you imagine I'm thinking.

Don't care

No I brought someone elses OWN COMMENTS into it. How can you have a discussion with someone if you're not allowed to reference what they've said? Oh right... you do what you've already done to me twice... make up something they havent said and talk about that.

Were those comments about people having dick pics?? How do they relate?? Or are you using it as an example of how they're crazy and therefore anything they say isn't valid?? Pathetic I'm sorry dude, that's pathetic and you need to grow up, you're not a teenage girl (atleast I fucking hope you're not) so you need to stop with the petty cat fighting, just cause they have, as you claim, problems doesn't make their point of view less valid ya douche

Proving my point about you before, no respect of anyone else. Only care about what you want to do.
I didn't have a choice not to see it. I scrolled down the thread and there it was.
Try whipping your dick out in a public library or restaurant and then tell the police that it's their fault for looking at it.

You mean in the places that the general of society says isn't ok?? What about a nude beach or a porno theatre?? Do you understand what I'm getting at?? There's places people agree things like this are ok and unfortunately for you THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES if you don't like the way it's going, leave

Beastiality has nothing to do with it being ok to expose yourself to people without their consent.
Also, make sure to ask about your buddies pedo comments. I'm sure we're all interested in what they say about that.

I haven't seen my "pedo buddies" comment... Again you're doing a Twitter, just cause I agreed with something he said doesn't mean we're twinsies in every aspect

And I was just saying that if you think I won't because it's about bestiality then boy are you wrong and the fact this site hosts a heap of porn has A LOT of merit in my opinion, would you tell someone in porn hub about a nude profile pic when you're in the forum's??

 

[pet love]

While I don't think that would fix everything, I actually do think that would fix a bunch of issues we have in society today. Americans tend to overcompensate when addressing issues. Forcibly restricting women from working wasn't right... but the current extreme view that women have to work a career or they're horrible people is a massive over correction.
How a couple decides to balance work/home life should be between them and no one else. If they both want to work, fine. If they want the man to work and the woman to be the home caretaker, that's fine too.

I do think its comical how some women think being a stay at home wife is akin to slavery, but working a +40 for another man at a job who can tell her what to do and she has to do it is empowering... is kinda funny.

There is no balance left in life. The whole system has been turned on its head. I know many women who want equality which Im 100% in favour of but when they get placed into certain employment they whine about the hours they have to work, extended travel times to and from work and they expect the men to do the menial portion of the job for them. Dont figure.... isnt equality about doing things equally no matter how hard it might be. Also funny how women only want the higher ranking positions in life. Sitting down all day and talking on the phone and getting massive wages for doing that. I want some equality as well. I want a desk job which pays me a fortune so I can enjoy the finer things in life as well. Dont discriminate against me. Give me a go too.

 

[allyfitz]

It's not like this by chance, it's intentional. It's harder for men, and I believe it's intentionally rigged this way on men.

I dont think it's intentional, there's not some group of people sitting around deciding this is the way life will be.
It's a result of reality and survival over the millennia of evolution. Males being the stronger of the sex took care of the hunting and fighting. Females being the physically weaker sex and the ones to bear children did that.
Females sought to mate with stronger males because it would mean they would be protected and their children would have a better chance at survival. males sought females who would be the best at raising their children. Those evolutionary pressures led to very big differences between males and females over hundreds of thousands of years.
The result of that is that males see other males as competition so generally wont do anything to help a random male who needs help. A family member or a close member of his tribe he will because it will benefit him. But otherwise he's going to be at best indifferent to the suffering of other men. Males generally will be more protective of females... even the females of other males, because those females are potential breeding partners in the future. If their male dies... well he gets another female to breed.

So yea, the deck is stacked against Men in many ways. That's just due to the difficulty to survive in a hostile world. Things are totally different now, but our base instincts and behaviors exist for living in a very different world than we live in today. Go back 100 years and those base behaviors were still an advantage in the world.
The species is not going to change in 100 years. Our bodies and subconscious is operating just like our ancient ancestors. The problem is we're living in a weird modern world today.
And if we look at the people who are most successful today... they're the one's who are still leaning into their more basal instincts and being hyper competitive, pushing themselves to be better and better everyday, and being dedicated to their family/tribe/group.

 

[ZooDogLover320]

Eh, its not that bad being a man. We are all part of this shit sandwich, no matter which race, sex or species you are. Dwelling on those few negatives today, in a world that is so much fucking better for everyone than it used to be is kinda a waste of time

 

[allyfitz]

I haven't seen em and I would be fucking retarded if I took someone's word for it over the internet

They're literally in this fucking thread... Have you bothered to read what this person has written in THIS VERY THREAD?
I quoted it for you before... here it is again. If you dont read it... then you're intentionally ignoring it.

People who do that to children do it because they don't have a woman for sexual release

I haven't seen my "pedo buddies" comment...

READ THIS FUCKING THREAD THEN.