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The Zeta Chronicles - A pro-active comic for the zoo community

I don't think writing cringe fanfiction about being attracted to animals is going to put any non-zoo into the shoes of a zoo, or make them like us in any way whatsoever. They're going to laugh at the cover, laugh as they look through the pages out of morbid curiosity, and laugh at everyone involved. At best, this is an out-of-touch attempt to get others to accept us that ultimately leads nowhere at all. At worst, this is purposeful or accidental sabotaging of the community that's just going to make us an even bigger target for criticism and hate. More than we already are.

Just looking at the front page: the mediocre artwork, the obvious pandering to people who are already zoos -people who don't need to hear a message like this, and the sorely obvious lack of any creativity is just embarrassing. It's like I'm looking at a really bad christian movie cover that you'd see in the $1 movie bin at walmart, or poorly drawn Chinese propaganda that some aspiring communist revolutionary highschooler would draw. That's what this really feels like: shitty propaganda. If I got all of these negative thoughts and emotions from just the front page, imagine what someone who's vehemently against zoo's is going to feel and think. Ugh.

This is an embarrassment. This is gonna be a dumpster fire. This is going to make others hate us more. Please don't go through with this.
 
I can work in Photoshop and professionally work with the Russian language. I can translate this comic into Russian if anyone is interested.

Also, I could help develop the script for the continuation of this comic if help is needed (I have the appropriate skills).

Unfortunately, I don’t have the opportunity to donate bitcoins (I don’t know how to use it), so I’m looking for how I can help the forum more :)
 
I understand the intent of this comic, and I like it. But I don't think it will achieve the desired results, and some of the criticism is valid. Nor will it be the disaster that some think.

Consider it a first attempt, learn from your mistakes, and keep going.
 
Minotauric69 said:
Consider it a first attempt, learn from your mistakes, and keep going.
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Except that it's far fron a first attempt. It's just another rehash of the same shit that has failed over and over and over and over and over and over again for the last 30 years or so. And every time it has failed, the blowback has been substantial. One definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over again in hopes that this time, the result will be different. What we've got here is nothing but a minor variation on crap that has failed every time it has been attempted, and will do nothing for anyone but cause grief.
 
So, did anyone notice the anthro tiger, in what appears to be a depiction of English riding clothing, has tacked his mare in a western saddle? Far from the most problematic thing about this project, but details matter.
 
No interest in furry. Never understood the fascination. I am also morally opposed to furrism in all its forms because of the rampant sexual abuse and pedophiles.
 
KnotEnuff said:
No interest in furry. Never understood the fascination. I am also morally opposed to furrism in all its forms because of the rampant sexual abuse and pedophiles.
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Yeah, that‘s like saying the gay community is rampant with pedophiles and rapists. You are just spewing pure bullshit.
About the comic: I am not really convinced either. I appreciate the attempt, but the implementation is lacking. Especially the Tiger really looks malformed, dunno. Seems really off to me. Also the fact he rides on a western saddle but dressed in a dressage outfit.
I don’t know where this comic will be published, but probably won’t reach the expected numbers.
 
Wow. The sheer amount of vitriol in a lot of the comments here is kind of astounding.
Look, I get it if you don't think the comic is going to be a useful endeavor, but the fearmongering tactics being used in here is kind of disheartening.
Look, I get that this comic paints an unrealistic portrait and that it is furry-centric amongst the zoo community. The idealist writing may be fine, not so much for others.
I get that not everyone will like it. Calling the city Zooville? I can get why some people are wary of that.

The problem with making a comic or something similar about the topic is that putting zoophilia at the forefront of the conversation isn't going to appeal to the general public all that well. So, it ultimately just becomes something for us more than the general population. It kinda reminds me of Chick Tracts. Where it's these mini publications about a religious ideology that isn't really going to convince anyone outside of that ideology.
That's one of the difficult things we have to work at if we want to improve public image. More scholarly approaches to this could help as well! Where trying to get more studies about this topic done. To have more research done on cognitive behaviors of animals and to actually deal with some of the core ideas about consent and what it actually means in today's world. After all, we're super hypocritical about consent (overall as a civilization) when it comes to having pets, having food from farms, and many other things that are deemed "alright" because it benefits humans. Consent seems to mean much less if there's a benefit to humanity.

It's not to say that comics can't help trying to express some of the underlying aspects of zoophilia and exploring the good and bad sides of it.
No one changed society by sitting back and doing nothing. I doubt this comic would really have a huge impact positively or negatively to the overall community. People will already have their ideas about such a topic, usually. But I've seen many zoo comics in a variety of ways. There are a lot of furry zoophiles as well. I am one of those individuals. Positive or negative, they're a real part of the community. And a lot of artwork has provoked quite a bit of conversation about it. Unfortunately, there's also a very vocal group of furries who are very anti-zoo in the community, which has been a pain, but at least there are still outlets to be able to express positive relations with non-human animals through art. Though, admittedly, most of that is in some kind of pornographic feature.
It'd be nice to see more non-porn comic explorations into the subject of zoophilia like this one (furry or non-furry), regardless if you agree or disagree with this particular one.
 
SloppyMare said:
Yeah, that‘s like saying the gay community is rampant with pedophiles and rapists. You are just spewing pure bullshit.
About the comic: I am not really convinced either. I appreciate the attempt, but the implementation is lacking. Especially the Tiger really looks malformed, dunno. Seems really off to me. Also the fact he rides on a western saddle but dressed in a dressage outfit.
I don’t know where this comic will be published, but probably won’t reach the expected numbers.
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The tiger clothing and mannerisms/the horse colorings really disoriented me. However the rest of the comic is good.

He's wearing fine clothes with a western styled on the horse. Your absolutely right it felt very weird seeing that.
 
IHO said:
Damn, my dogs assault me with their tongues frequently. Hope nobody arrests them! :p
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Oh my god, what he did was so tame anyway. Ex-GF is just looking to get revenge on him. I mean showing his mother the video??? Thats some psycho bitch shit.
 
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This is probably the most cursed thing I seen ?. The dog eyes are dots.

I hope it continues though
 

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ZTHorse said:
It is in great honor, and humility, that I am able to present this for all of the zoo community.

It would not be possible to have done this alone, and in great thanks to everyone who has supported zooville and in general, the zoo community. With your funding, we seeked to use the funding to maintain the sites but also, to being to have tools in which, we could reach those outside our community with the realities and struggles we face.

In this journey, there is many many many talented zoos in the world, who with their talents, wished to produce this comic. A comic of which, can be handed to just about anyone and they could turn page by page, and perhaps, take walk in the shoes we face. Just maybe, we could do something to positive and up building for us but also those whom are mis-informed about us.

In great kindness, It is a honor to present Zeta Chronicles for free distribution across all mediums.

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A resource has been created to be updated by google scholar and other search terms here . https://www.zoovilleforum.net/resources/zeta-chronicles.79/

This comic is likely to be 30-40 pages long and new pages will be released bi-weekly until completed.

Written by Libbypaw & @ZTHorse

Sketch & Line Art by Issac Coyote

Color by Championwhoops/Twitter

With kindest regards and love for all the zoos in the earth,
-The Zeta Chronicle Team
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Awesome I like comics ?
 
Terezifaps said:
This series is so cool
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can't decide what's cooler, the low-grade art style, how nothing happens on like first twelve pages, how it tackles no issues whatsoever despite claiming it does so or the way they went for the dumb and nonsensical "we're like homosexuals" parallel. very cool indeed.

making a fresh account once a while to go "this is really good" in this one thread is also a very cool thing to do.
 
nekdoneco123 said:
can't decide what's cooler, the low-grade art style, how nothing happens on like first twelve pages, how it tackles no issues whatsoever despite claiming it does so or the way they went for the dumb and nonsensical "we're like homosexuals" parallel. very cool indeed.

making a fresh account once a while to go "this is really good" in this one thread is also a very cool thing to do.
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I have to wonder whether the (maybe recent) spike in anti-zoo tendencies, stickers and shit in the furry community is in any way linked at least partially to this comic.
 
pes said:
I have to wonder whether the (maybe recent) spike in anti-zoo tendencies, stickers and shit in the furry community is in any way linked at least partially to this comic.
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I wouldn't doubt it. I swear, the worst thing for zoos is other zoos making stuff like this comic. Publicaly embarrassing the rest of the community.
 
Pekerit said:
I wouldn't doubt it. I swear, the worst thing for zoos is other zoos making stuff like this comic. Publicaly embarrassing the rest of the community.
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Precisely what I've been saying since before this abortion-that-lived was filled up with hydrogen and rose into view. From the start, it's been a absolutely crap idea that has never had even the slightest chance of doing ANY good, and about 6 kajillion ways to "go Hindenberg" on all of us.
 
Pekerit said:
I wouldn't doubt it. I swear, the worst thing for zoos is other zoos making stuff like this comic. Publicaly embarrassing the rest of the community.
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Ehhh my favorite part was the flying dog and there's another dog with nightmare fuel eyes that are dots
 
I don't want to shit on someone's creative endeavors. I can tell the people working on this cared, that this is a labour of love, etc. Creating art and putting it into the world takes a lot of time and effort and it takes guts to subject it to public scrutiny.

However, furry comics are a dime a dozen, the art is pretty amateurish, and the writing doesn't really accomplish anything, it certainly fails to make zoos seem normal to non zoos, which I think it exacerbated by the furry aspect. There's a lot wrong with this but the easiest part to articulate is that making it a furry comic is a huge own goal which both makes it feel less relevant to zoos broadly (many of whom are not furries) and makes it feel like just another furry thing rather than unique to zoos.

What I do find upsetting though is the fact that this was donation funded with money people gave to keep the site running. I would have much rather have seen that money put towards improving the site and its web infrastructure rather than producing this.

It's a bad DeviantArt level effort that isn't the positive outreach that it's being sold as, funded by donations that donors were never told would be put towards this project. Because people are paying for it, this comic is unfortunate subject to a higher standard, a standard of professional quality that it falls desperately short of. I really hope the admins pull the plug on this project's funding and put donations towards keeping the site running, and vetting and getting community approval on future projects if there's spare money at the end.

I've only recently gotten to the point where I have the income to donate to things like this and I, knowing that the money is going to this without community approval, would not donate to ZV unless things really change with regard to funding transparency.
 
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Giant Hogweed said:
I don't want to shit on someone's creative endeavors. I can tell the people working on this cared, that this is a labour of love, etc. Creating art and putting it into the world takes a lot of time and effort and it takes guts to subject it to public scrutiny.

However, furry comics are a dime a dozen, the art is pretty amateurish, and the writing doesn't really accomplish anything, it certainly fails to make zoos seem normal to non zoos, which I think it exacerbated by the furry aspect. There's a lot wrong with this but the easiest part to articulate is that making it a furry comic is a huge own goal which both makes it feel less relevant to zoos broadly (many of whom are not furries) and makes it feel like just another furry thing rather than unique to zoos.

What I do find upsetting though is the fact that this was donation funded with money people gave to keep the site running. I would have much rather have seen that money put towards improving the site and its web infrastructure rather than producing this.

It's a bad DeviantArt level effort that isn't the positive outreach that it's being sold as, funded by donations that donors were never told would be put towards this project. Because people are paying for it, this comic is unfortunate subject to a higher standard, a standard of professional quality that it falls desperately short of. I really hope the admins pull the plug on this project's funding and put donations towards keeping the site running, and vetting and getting community approval on future projects if there's spare money at the end.

I've only recently gotten to the point where I have the income to donate to things like this and I, knowing that the money is going to this without community approval, would not donate to ZV unless things really change with regard to funding transparency.
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Some select philanthropists were informed and donated to the project. As I stated before, not a cent was used nor taken away from server funding. (As i've posted such.)

Anyone of my moderators can attest to that, and ZV has been funded strictly by ads and capital investment for the past 3 years. The donations were used to grow excess capital of which, the comic, the wiki and the beast.chat server are all funded.

Get ready for a december announcement, costs are rising due to inflation. Fortunately, the wise management of the funding which i chair, has lead to ZV's excess funding, which has given us a large cushion for operation.
 
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