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Loneliness and Zoo lifestyle

America is no joke with adoptions. Almost like you have to sign away your life and pour all of your life savings into adopting ONE animal from a clinic or a shelter.

Yes, yes, I know they do it for security and safety of the animal but like, c'mon! It is so much. Why do you need to know my mother's maiden name and the last four digits of my social? /j
When it comes to adoption, America is crazy, especially with shelter pets. They don't want you to have a dog if you're going to be away from them for so many hours a day. What about work? How are you supposed to be able to afford them if you can't work? It's not like good dog food is cheap, you know. And many shelters won't adopt to you if you have a farm. It's not healthy for dogs to live on a farm.... WHAT????????
 
Would my life have been different if I had lost my virginity to a girl? Would I have even thought of ploughing my golden retriever if I had been like those couples I saw that evening?
I think so. There are things that can't remain dormant forever and at some point they express themselves. I believe sexuality is one of them. At any moment of your life you would find out that part of who you are, one day you'd look at a dog differently and to have sex with her. If that wasn't you, you would stop, regret it, be forever ashamed of yourself and never have second thoughts.
 
Hi Pat. I noticed your thread, and I wanted to share my thoughts. I know this is long, but I think it will all apply and give you some perspective.

You've gotten great advice from the community, and I wanted to share with you a little, if that's ok.

Just to give you some background, my first sexual encounter ever was a pony mare that took my virginity (I am a guy... just want to make that clear, lol). I have always been attracted to horses- I have loved them all my life. Being somewhat isolated from girls my own age and being teased and picked on in school, I wasn't popular, and had little to no interaction with girls romantically, although I desperately desired a relationship with a girl. Being a horny teenager, I wanted sex like crazy, and the pony mare was happy to oblige. We had sex multiple times, but it was never able to develop past that as she didn't belong to me.

I was approached by a girl in high school that wanted to be with me, and I fell in love with her almost instantly. Sadly, this girl destroyed me by breaking up with me not long afterwards. I was crushed. We dated again for a short period of time, but she broke it off completely and I was left to nurse my broken heart for a long time (it took me a year to be able to hear a certain song without breaking down in tears).

My first marriage failed as a result of my spouse repeatedly cheating on me. We had both dogs and cats, and although I wasn't able to do anything sexually with the dogs (they were too small), I did let my dogs French kiss me. I enjoyed the feeling of their tongues in my mouth, and would have done more if I could have. Between my first and second marriages, I bought my first two horses. Other than masturbating while astride them, I was not sexually active with them.

I got married again, not learning my lesson from my first marriage. We had my two horses and we bought a third together. We ended up selling one of my two, and settled there for quite some time. We ended up having two boys together, and our marriage started eroding after the kids came along. As the marriage eroded, my previous sexuality started arising and I became interested in sex with horses again. The last years of our marriage were very unhappy, and sexuality between us was very limited. I turned to the horses for sexual release, and had many mare lovers, as well as a few geldings that enjoyed anal sex.

After we split, a Facebook friend of mine shared a post with me on the most lovely mare I've ever laid eyes on. A GORGEOUS chocolate colored mare with a beautiful long mane and thick full tail. I went down to meet her, and was smitten almost instantly. She was kind, affectionate, and exceedingly beautiful. I took her home and started working with her, and we built a beautiful, trusting relationship. I was fully active sexually with some of the mares I was around, and of course, my interest was on her, but I wanted to make sure we had built a good relationship together before I attempted anything with her.

We had just started being intimate when I met a woman and we started seeing each other. As I didn't want secrets in our relationship, I told her that I had been intimate with my mare, and she, of course, was shocked. She then got jealous and mistrusting of me and my mare (which I had stopped being intimate with because of my and my girlfriend's relationship) and we fought a lot because of her. I finally (and heartbreakingly) decided to sell my mare, as she was causing too many problems between us. I thought our relationship could go the distance, so I wanted all my effort and attention on it. That turned out to be one of the worst decisions I've ever made, as our relationship crumbled two years later.

Fortunately, the mare I sold ended up with one of my best friends, and after my gf and I split, she offered the mare back to me. I gladly accepted, and my mare has been back with me for over a year now.

That's my background- now here's the part I'm sharing with you because I'd like you to see how a relationship with your dog can develop. Over the past year, I have been developing the relationship with my mare. It's like we picked up right where we left off... like we were never apart. I've continued her training, as to my standard she was still green (still learning how to be ridden properly) when I got her back, and over the course of that time I have started being more aware of how SHE feels with what I'm doing with her. I have moved to positive reinforcement techniques for training, and that was the big jump-start to our current relationship.

A few months ago, a fellow zoophile started challenging me to see her in a different light. To spend more time with her, but not to train her, but just to be WITH her. To hear her, to understand what she might be saying to me, to listen to her. It didn't take long before I started to fall in love with my mare. When that happened, things started to shift yet again. She is now my mate, my wife. I have given her a surname, and in my heart I have taken her surname instead of giving her my last name. She is a part of my soul now... and it's painful to be away from her for any length of time. I attached pictures of my ring for her and her rhythm bead necklace, which is her "ring", to show my commitment to her.

I wanted to share this with you, as in your original post you were talking about seeing others in relationship and how it turned you on. Perhaps the reason why it turned you on is that you're now EXPERIENCING relationship with your pooch, and seeing couples together is helping you to realize that you have that with her, which sexually excited you. I am discovering the amazing depth of connection that I have with my mare, and the love that I feel for her is incredible. An animal communicator friend of mine told me that she is deeply in love with me as well, and that is a balm to my soul, to know that my love for her is reciprocated. I also wanted to share my perspective from the human relationship side of things. Relationships with humans become complex, as emotions, past baggage, and personality conflicts arise. Sexuality with humans tends to complicate things, as the women I have been with tend to use sex as a weapon to get things to be how they want them to be. I'm not trying to discourage you from trying, as several different members suggested you try a human relationship to see what you think. I agree with them. I now know that relationship with my animals is far less complex and easier to manage that a relationship with a woman. I also feel safe to love again, as I know that my mare will not break up with me and break my heart. A deeply committed relationship with your pooch will be an amazing thing. You should see where it goes!!
This was deep and beautiful. Congratulations for your relationship with your mare.
 
Kinda, like I little experiences with my bitches I would say. But I have always think about the fact that no women is going to give me the pleasure that a dog can give me.


Like I still love women, but I would rather have a female dog for myself.
 
Ive been in relationships with both humans and k9. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. If my current human relationship doesn't end up working i think I might either date another zoo or just stick to k9s for the foreseeable future. I suppose it all depends on what you want out of your relationship.
 
my first time was pretty much male k9, can't go into full details with out getting in trouble but I had high functioning autism, major sensory issues at the time, and was lonely for being the only out gay person around. So my Butch made life tolerable for a bit. We both hit it off, like inseparable from day one, he listened, kept me safe, and while I was the submissive one he was happy to take charge so we worked. I think k9 personalities also play a big role, if your personalities don't mesh even being with a k9 can feel like a dead end loveless relationship.
 
my first time was pretty much male k9, can't go into full details with out getting in trouble but I had high functioning autism, major sensory issues at the time, and was lonely for being the only out gay person around. So my Butch made life tolerable for a bit. We both hit it off, like inseparable from day one, he listened, kept me safe, and while I was the submissive one he was happy to take charge so we worked. I think k9 personalities also play a big role, if your personalities don't mesh even being with a k9 can feel like a dead end loveless relationship.
I'm glad you found him! You needed him, and he needed you! You are right, but not just K9, all animals have distinct personalities that mesh with certain people. I had several other horses, even mares, before I met my equine wife. There is just something about her that is unique and special to her, and she and I mesh very well. I had bonds with all my horses, but this bond has always been deeper and stronger than any other.

With all our animal relationships, I wouldn't say any are loveless, but they certainly are not the incredibly deep bond that we feel with the animals that we fall in love with (and they with us)!!
 
I'm glad you found him! You needed him, and he needed you! You are right, but not just K9, all animals have distinct personalities that mesh with certain people. I had several other horses, even mares, before I met my equine wife. There is just something about her that is unique and special to her, and she and I mesh very well. I had bonds with all my horses, but this bond has always been deeper and stronger than any other. I wouldn't say loveless, but certainly not the incredibly deep bond that we feel with the animals that we fall in love with (and they with us)!!
Sorry, yes I didn't mean to imply only k9, that was just what the original post was. Thank you for pointing that out because that too should be mentioned. And the only reason I said loveless was because that's what a friend described their relationship as. Yes they still loved as an owner to a pet but it wasn't the love they were hoping for. (She was high energy he was low, she was horny, he would get horny but not for her.) I d k ive seen very happy fulfilling relationships and one's that made me really sad for both involved.
 
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Sorry, yes I didn't mean to imply only k9, that was just what the original post was. Thank you for pointing that out because that too should be mentioned
Wasn't thinking you were! :) I added my point to emphasize yours, as far as the difference between a loving, committed zoo relationship vs just a standard owner/pet relationship
 
Sorry I updated my post for the part about loveless.

I have personally loved every zoo relationship I've had, never been in a long term one with a mare or stallion but ive knows those in them and they are very happy, go on dates and vacations together like anyone else. Would love to PDM you about your horse relationship. Always love hearing others stories.
 
Wasn't thinking you were! :) I added my point to emphasize yours, as far as the difference between a loving, committed zoo relationship vs just a standard owner/pet relationship
Sorry I updated my post for the part about loveless.



I have personally loved every zoo relationship I've had, never been in a long term one with a mare or stallion but ive knows those in them and they are very happy, go on dates and vacations together like anyone else. Would love to PDM you about your horse relationship. Always love hearing others stories.
 
Sorry I updated my post for the part about loveless.



I have personally loved every zoo relationship I've had, never been in a long term one with a mare or stallion but ive knows those in them and they are very happy, go on dates and vacations together like anyone else. Would love to PDM you about your horse relationship. Always love hearing others stories.
You're welcome to PM/DM me. I will warn you tho, I tend to gush about my lovely lady!! ;)
 
Growing up I enjoyed watching women get fucked by horses but thought doggy dick looked painful and gross (looked like their poor dicks were skinned and it freaked me out). Female animals weren’t as “impressive” to me then.

That said, my first and only time i saw my male GSD as a sexual option was Christmas Eve a month after my divorce. I felt so discarded, betrayed and desperate to be loved. I chugged a bottle of wine and opened a second to savor. Tears rolling down my face I hugged him and ended up getting under him to suck his dick still crying.

I only told one ex this and quickly learned not to share it again.

Now I fear starting my zoo life will put me right back into that “worthless” state. Trauma has a tendency to turn even the most beautiful of things ugly or shameful. I want to start back up but I’m terrified of falling into that again and want to do it in the right grounded and loving frame of mind.
 
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I think its a choice whether you want to be lonley or not as a zoo. Nothing is stopping you from having purely platonic human relationships. Your family, friends, co-workers, it up to you if you choose to see them as beneficial to your life. I would say Im exclusive but I have nothing against forming friendships with other humans as long as they aren't romantic or sexual in nature. The hardest part like @Royalhaileyness said is that you can't share your zoo side with these people.
 
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