sylveswags45
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I see a lot of people saying zoophilia is good, but a lot say zoophilia is bad and animals can’t consent. I am looking for a right guiding on what is true and false please help.
Is zoophilia ok?
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Elven&Werewolf
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Of course we can talk about philosophical aspects but everybody knows that zoofilia is OK and NOT OK in various circumstances. Because all depends on circumstances. 
It depends.
Animals can consent, there is no debate around it, just denial.
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So zoophilia is "good" when you respect the animal. You base your relationship on trust and understanding and the animal has a choice to have or not have sex with you.
Zoophilia is bad when you abuse animals and use them as living sex toys or exploit them for sexual purposes (commercial porn).
Animals can consent, there is no debate around it, just denial.
How a female dog expresses consent with body language
Flagging (normally they do this behavior in standing heat) is how a female dog expresses that she is willing and ready to mate with a male, lifting of the vulva and tucking the tail off to one side are clear signs of consent, it is part of the k9 body language, they are absolutely capable of...
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How does your dog show they're wanting sex?
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How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?
When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...
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So zoophilia is "good" when you respect the animal. You base your relationship on trust and understanding and the animal has a choice to have or not have sex with you.
Zoophilia is bad when you abuse animals and use them as living sex toys or exploit them for sexual purposes (commercial porn).
ShanoirII
Citizen of Zooville
Animals can obviously consent to sex with each other, so there is no reason they cannot consent to sex with humans as well.
As long as you know how a mature animal shows consent, there is no coercion involved, and you know how to safely make contact with an animal, and can gauge how they are feeling during the experience, there should not be any moral problems.
If animals could not consent, that would mean that all sex between animals is potentially rape, that animals do various intensive courtship gestures all in vain, and that sexual copulation is such an unreliable method of reproduction that it should not be as widely seen among animals as it is.
JazzyPaws
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
It depends.
Animals can consent, there is no debate around it, just denial.
How a female dog expresses consent with body language
Flagging (normally they do this behavior in standing heat) is how a female dog expresses that she is willing and ready to mate with a male, lifting of the vulva and tucking the tail off to one side are clear signs of consent, it is part of the k9 body language, they are absolutely capable of...How does your dog show they're wanting sex?
[Leaving the thread up, but deleting the text, as requested.]How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?
When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...
So zoophilia is "good" when you respect the animal. You base your relationship on trust and understanding and the animal has a choice to have or not have sex with you.
Zoophilia is bad when you abuse animals and use them as living sex toys or exploit them for sexual purposes (commercial porn).
This is just it. Animals can absolutely consent and a lot of times will end up asking for it too.
Consent is paramount, respect your partner, and do no harm.
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MrsShemon
Guest
Forcing the animal, tying it up, cornering, harming them= bad.
If they are the ones making the first move and clearly wants to=not bad.
Depending on who you ask, it can also always be seen as bad.
Read the threads pes gave you and even others about how animals can show consent and it will become clear to you that they can indeed condent to having sex with humans.
If they are the ones making the first move and clearly wants to=not bad.
Depending on who you ask, it can also always be seen as bad.
Read the threads pes gave you and even others about how animals can show consent and it will become clear to you that they can indeed condent to having sex with humans.
shyprincess
Tourist
Absolutely agree
DoggyPy
Tourist
Great short answer, will be using it in the futureIt depends.
Animals can consent, there is no debate around it, just denial.
How a female dog expresses consent with body language
Flagging (normally they do this behavior in standing heat) is how a female dog expresses that she is willing and ready to mate with a male, lifting of the vulva and tucking the tail off to one side are clear signs of consent, it is part of the k9 body language, they are absolutely capable of...How does your dog show they're wanting sex?
[Leaving the thread up, but deleting the text, as requested.]How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?
When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...
So zoophilia is "good" when you respect the animal. You base your relationship on trust and understanding and the animal has a choice to have or not have sex with you.
Zoophilia is bad when you abuse animals and use them as living sex toys or exploit them for sexual purposes (commercial porn).
Snickelfritz
Tourist
This is great information. What's important is to listen.
cometocean
Tourist
If you are not forcing animal then its totally ok. If animal also enjoying its great
Doglovers54
Tourist
All true
SuprêmeWolf
Tourist
Yes, it's very trueÇa dépend.
Les animaux peuvent consentir, il n’y a pas de débat autour de cela, juste un déni.
How does your dog show they're wanting sex?
[Leaving the thread up, but deleting the text, as requested.]How Does Your Animal Say No to Sex?
When hearing about animals and consent, we generally start off with examples of our animals demonstrating desire and knowledge about what they want, or attempting to explain it from a theoretical perspective. However, in my own relationships there have been many times where my advances were met...
La zoophilie est donc « bonne » quand on respecte l’animal. Vous basez votre relation sur la confiance et la compréhension et l’animal a le choix d’avoir ou non des relations sexuelles avec vous.
La zoophilie est mauvaise lorsque vous maltraitez des animaux et les utilisez comme jouets sexuels vivants ou lorsque vous les exploitez à des fins sexuelles (porno commercial).
But you have to be careful, there may be cases where the dog has been educated and incited to do so. If the dog was forced when younger and/or is afraid of disobeying his human, then he will not refuse, which does not mean that he wants or likes it.
SIf the animal benefits, feels happy, doesn't have to force it and likes it, that's the best that can happen
Nightwind
Tourist
I've always thinked that if the animal didn't consent, they would bite, wiggle, try to run away. If you bottom for an animal, it's clear - if they approach you and mount you, they want it. If you top for an animal, watch theirs body language and stop if they show any signs of discomfort! Also, don't force it and know your limits, you wouldn't want to get hurt and explain it at the Emergency Room
Martian
Tourist
A more refined form of the consent argument is that animals don't understand sex the way a human would and therefore even if they physically enjoy it or initiate the sexual contact their consent is still invalid because "they don't actually know what they're getting into, they haven't pondered the moral implications of having sex, etc."
Of course if you push this logic to its conclusion then you can't have any sort of interaction with an animal. No petting, no ownership, no taking pictures or videos, no riding, no spaying, no breeding, and so on. Then typically people will say it's different and that consent is only important for sex though they'll struggle to explain why.
Of course if you push this logic to its conclusion then you can't have any sort of interaction with an animal. No petting, no ownership, no taking pictures or videos, no riding, no spaying, no breeding, and so on. Then typically people will say it's different and that consent is only important for sex though they'll struggle to explain why.
SuprêmeWolf
Tourist
Oui c'est vrai ils ne savent peut-être pas ce qu'il faut, mais ils aiment bien si ils l'accepte et qu'ils n'ont pas été forcé.
Après si tu vas dans cette logique c'est pareil pour tout.
Et atteint leur maturité sexuelle ils savent bien ce qu'il font.
Martian
Tourist
Yes of course. To be honest the truth is that most people react with disgust and anger to the idea of sex with animals and then look for some sort of rational-sounding explanation to justify banning it.
(Also, I think you have to post in English outside of the non-English sections).
