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Feeling of guilt

SaraZooville said:
That guilt you’re feeling after the HJ with your new rescue? Super common, especially since it’s your first real go with a dog. I peeked at your last post, new pup, fresh home, him jumping the gun day one, yeah, that’s a whirlwind! My first time with my mutt years back left me shaky too, not ‘cause I forced anything, but because it hit fast, and I wondered if I’d crossed some line. You didn’t expect this, especially with him being neutered (which, by the way, doesn’t always kill their drive, my boys are snipped and still raring to go!), so it’s natural to feel off-balance.

Here’s the thing: he initiated, like you said. That’s huge. Dogs don’t play human guilt games, they act on instinct, and him trying to mount you means he was comfy enough to go there, new home or not. You giving him a HJ wasn’t “using” him, it was meeting him where he was at. I’ve had my Pitbull nudge me for attention plenty of times, and rolling with it builds trust, not the opposite. Still, I get the headspace, wanting that slow-bond-first vibe and then bam, sexual stuff throws you. I wanted that too with my Mastiff, but he had other plans early on, and I felt weird ‘til I reframed it.

You’re not alone in this, guilt hits most of us at some point.
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I must ask, it's dream of mine to be taken by a large dog. How did the mastiff feel? We're you able to take him all?

You both are talking about what i want.
 
i have this gut feeling that im an awful person for simply being a zoo. i dont hurt animals and i try to remain respectful towards another life but i have this lingering feeling that im fucked up or a disgrace. anyone else feel this way or is it just me? if this post isnt allowed please let me know
 
HorsePounder said:
i have this gut feeling that im an awful person for simply being a zoo. i dont hurt animals and i try to remain respectful towards another life but i have this lingering feeling that im fucked up or a disgrace. anyone else feel this way or is it just me? if this post isnt allowed please let me know
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Haven't we all? I know some of the darkest points in my life came over being bi or zoo. No shame in admitting it now, it's just part of my story. But it doesn't negate that it's that way for a lot of us
 
The first time I actually inserted myself into my parent's dog around age 13 and nutted, I felt like a freak. But compared to the two previous (much older) people who "showed me how all the parts work" it was something that only I knew about. But once I had another person my age to try the stuff out we saw in porn videos, I stopped using the dog. lol. But now I'm very interested in having a male dog make me his "bitch". lol
 
Yeah it's normal to feel that way. Part of the consequences of living in a society where it's discriminated against and frowned upon. Even people that watch it or are curious will usually deny and feign disgust in real life. I guarantee you someone looking at a zoo video is not as rare as it seems. Curiosity around it is fairly common, but majority of people are unwilling to admit for fear of being made an outcast, so it might feel like you're more alone and "fucked up" than you really are, it's an illusion in some ways.

so the feeling of shame is totally normal; but it's also important that you grow past it. You shouldn't actually feel shame, because you're not really doing anything wrong. At least I hope you're not, If you're out there raping frogs or something, you should stop, that's mean 😂. But as long as you're not hurting anything, there's no reason to feel shame.

Shame, like all of the "negative" emotions is important to have and it exists to teach us and protect us. The issue is that it's misplaced in this situation. You feel shame because you don't want to hurt your friends and family and your community at large by doing something deemed immoral. This is great for preventing things like theft and other acts with a victim. The problem is that you have no  guilt because you have no intention of harming or damaging anything, but society places an arbitrary discrimination on something you enjoy, causing the shame.

You should come to the understanding that you don't actually feel shame for being a zoo; you feel shame for "betraying" society, or failing to live to society's expectations. Once you realize, understand, and fully integrate that, you'll be able to move past it and grow. The process of individuation involves realizing you must overcome some of the constrains set by society. From a social aspect, a population of individual people is not a good thing, so society institutes common beliefs and actions. A million ants all of the same nature works in much greater harmony. Your task through life is to discover who you are and grow into the person you're supposed to be; generally in a harmonious way with your society. In the case of your sexuality you've hit a hard contradiction and it's manifesting as shame; you must choose to either kill that desire, or to cast away the shame and embrace your Self.

It's not an easy thing to do, but being true to yourself is the best thing you can do. I can't really give much advice because every person has their own journey. Only thing I can say, is that when you think about animals or being a zoo, concentrate on it feeling pleasurable and happy. I don't just mean in a sexual way. Focus on the love being shown and expressed, think of it more in terms of pleasure and happiness of the soul rather than the body. Right now it makes you physically feel good, but your psyche is torn and feels bad. Allow yourself to fully appreciate what you are doing and Focus on the "higher" feelings, they will replace the shame.
 
Woni said:
Haven't we all?
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No.

I never had any of this guilt or shame problems. From a rational viewpoint is being zoo, as long as you treat the animal with the same moral values and rights as a human has, totaly justifiable. The shame part only comes from some old, most of the time religious and cultural indoctrination. Its your life, not someone else's, so do what makes you happy, as long as you respect anyone's boundarys. What you do in the bedroom is Noone else's business.
 
Very well thought out tbh. I struggle more with biblical aspect since I am Christian but in a sense.. we all struggle with sin we do best we can to be good people and I guarantee most people on here ARE good people. I believe in Jesus name and ask him to help me with it. Long story short we are expected to not be perfect but to try to be good people. If I had millions I'd get a nice home, pilots license, and I'd help people with it, and start up a business to continue do things to make money to help more people. Just how I am so I'm a awful business man XD. So it's because of my belief I 110% don't believe gay, lesbian, bisexual, or zoo sexual people are immediately condemned. Hell murderers aren't. I think certain groups of people should be.. but they can even they can find forgiveness. And in zoos case.. it's not rape if a dog will ACTIVELY engage in it and even like it. Does it mean it's not wrong.. not exactly.. but also we're not perfect, and not expected to be. We're expected to be the best we can be and try our damnedest. That's my opinion on it all.
 
I found out I have been attracted to animals (mainly dogs and horses) for a 4/5 months when i accidentally fell down a feral rabbit hole leading me to find out i liked dogs and other animals,anytime I finish to zoo related porn I feel guilty and try to stop it but i always come back to it and just want to accept.
 
Same. Once I realized it. It was just the natural conclusion, and I didn't even consider there being a reason to feel guilty. First time I saw someone ask I was confused a bit, but you can't control how you feel, much more than you can who you feel for. Some accept it without another thought, some scream it from the mountaintops, some take a long time to come to terms, and some never do.
 
DogSimper said:
I found out I have been attracted to animals (mainly dogs and horses) for a 4/5 months when i accidentally fell down a feral rabbit hole leading me to find out i liked dogs and other animals,anytime I finish to zoo related porn I feel guilty and try to stop it but i always come back to it and just want to accept.
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im new but been struggling with this myself for 3 years and I been seeking the answer to this problem truth is you either accept it and be at peace or continue feeling like shit. I choose the for
 
Personally, I have always enjoyed this sort of content every since I was waaay too young, but I guess what made me like it more was the fact an animal can be a true companion to you in wats a fellow human cannot be.

Your animal friend will always love you so long as you give him/her the attention, respect, and care they deserve. Your animal friend won't care about your interests, or quirks. Or judge you for any decisions you make.

It's just a form of unconditional love that is much harder to obtain from a human.

P.S. So don't worry too much about this interest of yours. We all are looking to find ourselves in life and be happy.
 
I just wrote this response again yesterday
I’m gonna paste it here with my story and opinions

For me,

I have always battled this side of myself in all aspects, especially religious. I have felt like I would be punished for being into this, along with the furry aspects as well that applied to me. I felt as if I was hated, cursed, born tainted, etc.

TW: I once viewed it in a way that was how I viewed p3dos. I was repulsed by that thought and I could never understand why a god would create them. I felt like I was touched upon with a similar evil even though both are so different… But then I reflected, and even though this is a drastically different sexuality/lifestyle, I couldn’t figure out why I was the way I was or if I was touched by evil etc.

But I knew this would not bring anyone harm. I know some people in this community just like any, dont care if they do harm, they are there to satisfy themselves by any means necessary... that is the scary side that i will always stay far away from.

What I have come to realize is,

We are born this way. This is a sexuality just like being gay, straight bi, etc. This is part of WHO you are. There is NO REASON TO FEEL GUILT!
Remember this is “PART” of who you are. It isn’t your entire being. There are plenty of other amazing parts to you!

There is no stopping an attraction unless you do some crazy therapies. If you’re attracted to underage, pain, assault, harm style things .. then that’s when you get help.
But if you’re just sexually attracted and even romantically attracted to animals and have NO plans to ever bring them harm… why hate yourself? There is no reason to “stop” feeling these ways because the way you are feeling is totally normal as long as it’s not coming from a place of MALICE.

All you need is to have self control, understanding, love, and respect. Make sure your heart is always in the right place and treat every being with the utmost respect.

Accepting yourself is incredibly hard and you will struggle for a long time. Once you accept yourself it will feel like a huge weight is lifted off your shoulders. That is when you’ll start to feel alive again!

Do not shame yourself for your sexual attractions or romantic interests. It’s part of you. Think about how many other Amazon aspects of yourself there are!!

We will never know the truth as to why we are born this way until we die. I know who I am, I am a bright beautiful soul that wants to spread love and do good in this world. I never have any intentions of hurting any being, and I am always working to be the best version of myself. I know I have done so much good in my years alive and plan to continue that until the day I die.

So, I was created with flaws, but my flaws are not causing ANY harm to anyone or anything. I must accept them and continue to be kind, loving, caring, sharing gratitude every single day and understand that life is random and good and bad things are always happening.

I have accepted this as part of who I am and I must live with it and know I was born into this world for a reason. I am here for a reason and i have had experiences that have literally proven to me there is an after life. I have been blessed with soooo many unique experiences and all i can do is just have gratitude and keep going.

Learn how to set boundaries with yourself without applying GUILT/SHAME. Also, work on having a strong mental + self discipline.

It’s okay to watch porn, just set some boundaries and limits so you don’t over indulge.

Look into doing a 3-7 day dopamine detox. It helps a lot with all sorts of dopamine addictions, not just porn. Maybe you need to do a nice reset. Start doing some meditation and guided meditation as well. Work towards acceptance AND build self discipline.
 
I am trying to get therapy of some kind after obliterating myself with essentially daily, and nearly constant guilt trips for many, many years. Posting and reading here has at least helped me vent a bit, which has been cathartic, but the guilt is really eating me alive to be quite frank.

I'm not necessarily looking to get myself "converted" as I don't think this is possible, but I am really looking to find some relief from guilt, self-hatred, etc. I'm not really in a position to give anyone advice, but if you're looking for some of questionable value, mine would be to try and find SOME kind of help or outlet. I know it's easy for people to say, "Yo homie, accept yourself!" and I think for some people that is really easy, but I know that I can't do it by myself and am going to need help.

Take me as a cautionary tale to take your feelings seriously, even if yourself, people here, or otherwise are trying to convince you that you simply don't need to feel guilty. It's honestly irrelevant if you "should" feel guilty or not, but if you DO feel guilty in a way that is making you feel bad about yourself, you need to take it on and address it. I really, really advise you listen to your emotions and find a way to confront them. I have waited too long to do so and suspect I have really done severe psychological damage to myself as result and I don't wish this on anyone.
 
DogSimper said:
I found out I have been attracted to animals (mainly dogs and horses) for a 4/5 months when i accidentally fell down a feral rabbit hole leading me to find out i liked dogs and other animals,anytime I finish to zoo related porn I feel guilty and try to stop it but i always come back to it and just want to accept.
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Hey there, I've also been struggling with a lot of guilt/shame but I went to see a sex therapist and to my surprise they actually helped me feel much better about my attraction, and even told me about this forum and some other community resources. It helped to hear about how other cultures approach zoophilia and to figure out what I view as "right" and "wrong" instead of what society tells me is right and wrong. I'm new to this forum but feel free to DM me if you want/if that's a thing you can do here
 
secretpup98 said:
Hey there, I've also been struggling with a lot of guilt/shame but I went to see a sex therapist and to my surprise they actually helped me feel much better about my attraction, and even told me about this forum and some other community resources. It helped to hear about how other cultures approach zoophilia and to figure out what I view as "right" and "wrong" instead of what society tells me is right and wrong. I'm new to this forum but feel free to DM me if you want/if that's a thing you can do here
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Sorry to pry, but can I ask for... I'm not sure, some details or outlines about how the conversations have gone with this sex therapist? I'm starting to perhaps look down going down this route myself.

I don't think you can DM/PM until you're up to 10 posts, otherwise I'd reach out to you more privately, but I think any insight you can give here would be generally helpful to not only myself but others.

Also, thank you for being here and allowing yourself to be vulnerable and open. I am struggling with this myself and I know it has been hard for me, but even this little nugget you posted makes me feel hopeful.
 
uton duke said:
well unless you want to change to one of them i suggest you hang out with your own kind more and be one of us.
no shame amongst your own kind.
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I understand this sentiment, having (Honestly) initially essentially come here to wrap myself in the warm embrace of like minded people, but a word of warning. I suspect much of the turmoil in the world at large and where people run into unintended anguish is due to deeper and deeper embracing of echo chambers, "safe spaces", etc. There is a major peril in remaining in an "unchallenging" environment, I think. I am struggling largely, I suspect, because I've been in the ultimate safe space: my mind. I've only been actively posting here a couple of days, which has been more helpful than I think I could have imagined, and the reason it's been most helpful to me is the fact that I DID move towards a slow gradient of change. This space is less safe than my own psyche because I'm getting outside interaction, even though it may be slanted heavily like-minded. I'm not sure how far I can go, but you know what is making me feel MORE hopeful than the comforting words of like minded people? The thought of going to the next step and talking to someone else. To seek, at least some level of acceptance, from someone else outside of the community. To know that this thing I struggle with is not my defining attribute, to know that I am not lesser than. I don't think I can get that FEELING that I'm craving from someone who is "the same" as me in this way, even though I can get the words.

I think for me, therapy is the next step on this gradient. Someone who is NOT a zoophile, but who has some obligation to not judge me, at least perceptibly. Ultimately I think I will need to be vulnerable and open in a context where acceptance is not guaranteed.

I hope some of that makes sense, and I don't post it to criticize as I don't feel honestly that it much matters or that I can really question anyone else's motivations given that I'll never understand the entirety of where someone else is coming from, I just post it as food for thought and a differing perspective for those that are in a space perhaps near my own. Ultimately what is going to be "right" for anyone in particular is too personal to prescribe externally. The best we can do is gently guide one another.
 
bc161 said:
Sorry to pry, but can I ask for... I'm not sure, some details or outlines about how the conversations have gone with this sex therapist? I'm starting to perhaps look down going down this route myself.

I don't think you can DM/PM until you're up to 10 posts, otherwise I'd reach out to you more privately, but I think any insight you can give here would be generally helpful to not only myself but others.

Also, thank you for being here and allowing yourself to be vulnerable and open. I am struggling with this myself and I know it has been hard for me, but even this little nugget you posted makes me feel hopeful.
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I'm glad it could give you some hope 🩷 I honestly wasn't initially planning on talking about this subject in my sex therapy but the therapist felt like someone I could trust and I tested the waters by asking them if they had any experience helping clients with paraphilias. They said yes and that they don't even like the word paraphilia (they didn't elaborate on this but I think it's because of the negative/pathologizing connotation). I opened up about me struggling with my attraction to animals and they reassured me that I'm not alone and it can be a normal part of human sexuality. That's when we started talking about how other cultures approach/accept beastiality and how it's been documented in history. We also talked about how they personally don't think it's wrong, and that just because a society labels something as wrong doesn't mean it necessarily is. They encouraged me to think about my own boundaries and the things that would violate my morals (which for me included forcing an animal to do something it clearly didn't want to do, etc), and work off of that to determine what is "wrong". And like I mentioned, they told me about this forum and a few other resources. ( I also found out about the podcast "Zooier Than Thou") Tbh opening up about this in therapy changed my life and made me feel like I'm not just a monster for feeling this way, BUT I would select your therapist carefully and test the waters if you go down this route, because all therapists are so different and I'm sure some of them have completely different views on the subject.
 
It’s difficult, but it takes time. I’ve had some kinks that take a minute to figure out if it’s phase or genuine attraction. But you learn, you grow, and soon you’ll be rocking it.
 
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