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Feeling of guilt

Refer to my last post for details but I recently brought home a rescue who tried to initiate things with me the first day. I did end up giving him a HJ after he attempted to mount me.

This is my first real experience with a dog and I feel guilty because he's brand new to me and my home. I wanted to build a relationship first and honestly didn't expect to have a sexual one with him due to him being neutered. Feels like I used him somehow.

Now I'm finding it more difficult to bond due to the guilt. Logically I know he initiated, but my brain is having a hard time wrapping around it.

Any advice would be welcome
 
That guilt you’re feeling after the HJ with your new rescue? Super common, especially since it’s your first real go with a dog. I peeked at your last post, new pup, fresh home, him jumping the gun day one, yeah, that’s a whirlwind! My first time with my mutt years back left me shaky too, not ‘cause I forced anything, but because it hit fast, and I wondered if I’d crossed some line. You didn’t expect this, especially with him being neutered (which, by the way, doesn’t always kill their drive, my boys are snipped and still raring to go!), so it’s natural to feel off-balance.

Here’s the thing: he initiated, like you said. That’s huge. Dogs don’t play human guilt games, they act on instinct, and him trying to mount you means he was comfy enough to go there, new home or not. You giving him a HJ wasn’t “using” him, it was meeting him where he was at. I’ve had my Pitbull nudge me for attention plenty of times, and rolling with it builds trust, not the opposite. Still, I get the headspace, wanting that slow-bond-first vibe and then bam, sexual stuff throws you. I wanted that too with my Mastiff, but he had other plans early on, and I felt weird ‘til I reframed it.

You’re not alone in this, guilt hits most of us at some point.
 
That guilt you’re feeling after the HJ with your new rescue? Super common, especially since it’s your first real go with a dog. I peeked at your last post, new pup, fresh home, him jumping the gun day one, yeah, that’s a whirlwind! My first time with my mutt years back left me shaky too, not ‘cause I forced anything, but because it hit fast, and I wondered if I’d crossed some line. You didn’t expect this, especially with him being neutered (which, by the way, doesn’t always kill their drive, my boys are snipped and still raring to go!), so it’s natural to feel off-balance.

Here’s the thing: he initiated, like you said. That’s huge. Dogs don’t play human guilt games, they act on instinct, and him trying to mount you means he was comfy enough to go there, new home or not. You giving him a HJ wasn’t “using” him, it was meeting him where he was at. I’ve had my Pitbull nudge me for attention plenty of times, and rolling with it builds trust, not the opposite. Still, I get the headspace, wanting that slow-bond-first vibe and then bam, sexual stuff throws you. I wanted that too with my Mastiff, but he had other plans early on, and I felt weird ‘til I reframed it.

You’re not alone in this, guilt hits most of us at some point.
I must ask, it's dream of mine to be taken by a large dog. How did the mastiff feel? We're you able to take him all?

You both are talking about what i want.
 
i have this gut feeling that im an awful person for simply being a zoo. i dont hurt animals and i try to remain respectful towards another life but i have this lingering feeling that im fucked up or a disgrace. anyone else feel this way or is it just me? if this post isnt allowed please let me know
 
i have this gut feeling that im an awful person for simply being a zoo. i dont hurt animals and i try to remain respectful towards another life but i have this lingering feeling that im fucked up or a disgrace. anyone else feel this way or is it just me? if this post isnt allowed please let me know
Haven't we all? I know some of the darkest points in my life came over being bi or zoo. No shame in admitting it now, it's just part of my story. But it doesn't negate that it's that way for a lot of us
 
The first time I actually inserted myself into my parent's dog around age 13 and nutted, I felt like a freak. But compared to the two previous (much older) people who "showed me how all the parts work" it was something that only I knew about. But once I had another person my age to try the stuff out we saw in porn videos, I stopped using the dog. lol. But now I'm very interested in having a male dog make me his "bitch". lol
 
Yeah it's normal to feel that way. Part of the consequences of living in a society where it's discriminated against and frowned upon. Even people that watch it or are curious will usually deny and feign disgust in real life. I guarantee you someone looking at a zoo video is not as rare as it seems. Curiosity around it is fairly common, but majority of people are unwilling to admit for fear of being made an outcast, so it might feel like you're more alone and "fucked up" than you really are, it's an illusion in some ways.

so the feeling of shame is totally normal; but it's also important that you grow past it. You shouldn't actually feel shame, because you're not really doing anything wrong. At least I hope you're not, If you're out there raping frogs or something, you should stop, that's mean 😂. But as long as you're not hurting anything, there's no reason to feel shame.

Shame, like all of the "negative" emotions is important to have and it exists to teach us and protect us. The issue is that it's misplaced in this situation. You feel shame because you don't want to hurt your friends and family and your community at large by doing something deemed immoral. This is great for preventing things like theft and other acts with a victim. The problem is that you have no  guilt because you have no intention of harming or damaging anything, but society places an arbitrary discrimination on something you enjoy, causing the shame.

You should come to the understanding that you don't actually feel shame for being a zoo; you feel shame for "betraying" society, or failing to live to society's expectations. Once you realize, understand, and fully integrate that, you'll be able to move past it and grow. The process of individuation involves realizing you must overcome some of the constrains set by society. From a social aspect, a population of individual people is not a good thing, so society institutes common beliefs and actions. A million ants all of the same nature works in much greater harmony. Your task through life is to discover who you are and grow into the person you're supposed to be; generally in a harmonious way with your society. In the case of your sexuality you've hit a hard contradiction and it's manifesting as shame; you must choose to either kill that desire, or to cast away the shame and embrace your Self.

It's not an easy thing to do, but being true to yourself is the best thing you can do. I can't really give much advice because every person has their own journey. Only thing I can say, is that when you think about animals or being a zoo, concentrate on it feeling pleasurable and happy. I don't just mean in a sexual way. Focus on the love being shown and expressed, think of it more in terms of pleasure and happiness of the soul rather than the body. Right now it makes you physically feel good, but your psyche is torn and feels bad. Allow yourself to fully appreciate what you are doing and Focus on the "higher" feelings, they will replace the shame.
 
Haven't we all?
No.

I never had any of this guilt or shame problems. From a rational viewpoint is being zoo, as long as you treat the animal with the same moral values and rights as a human has, totaly justifiable. The shame part only comes from some old, most of the time religious and cultural indoctrination. Its your life, not someone else's, so do what makes you happy, as long as you respect anyone's boundarys. What you do in the bedroom is Noone else's business.
 
Very well thought out tbh. I struggle more with biblical aspect since I am Christian but in a sense.. we all struggle with sin we do best we can to be good people and I guarantee most people on here ARE good people. I believe in Jesus name and ask him to help me with it. Long story short we are expected to not be perfect but to try to be good people. If I had millions I'd get a nice home, pilots license, and I'd help people with it, and start up a business to continue do things to make money to help more people. Just how I am so I'm a awful business man XD. So it's because of my belief I 110% don't believe gay, lesbian, bisexual, or zoo sexual people are immediately condemned. Hell murderers aren't. I think certain groups of people should be.. but they can even they can find forgiveness. And in zoos case.. it's not rape if a dog will ACTIVELY engage in it and even like it. Does it mean it's not wrong.. not exactly.. but also we're not perfect, and not expected to be. We're expected to be the best we can be and try our damnedest. That's my opinion on it all.
 
I've heard rumors of people having it go away or never having it at all, but I don't find myself in that camp just yet. Person by person I suppose.
 
Well you just do it in a way that doesn't feel wrong. Does it feel wrong when you pet a dog?

Why is it a different feeling when you suck a dog.

Both make the dog feel good. Both make yourself feel good ... what's this issue here?

If it was just sex I'd feel wrong about it too. But there's alot of flirty foreplay and body language beforehand.
but hey if it feels wrong for you then don't do it. You can be sexually attacked to animals without acting on it.
But if you went through the foreplay and are highly intune with your animal partner the actual act of sex definitely seems right.

But I personally much prefer the bond over the actual act of sex.
 
Do you think dogs or other animals are weirded out over mating with humans? Like are they thinking " fuck that was weird , I can't believe I just did that it's so wrong ! But it felt so good , dog damn!
 
I’d be pretty boring (and bored) if I were not into zoo. Personally I don’t feel pride for engaging in this but I no longer feel regret. I am harmless.
 
I'll be honest. I often do. I think because of the world we live in, and the niggling fear that I am doing something wrong. I can often rationalize things, how we as humans do far, far worse to our animal companions and the fact that I enjoy pleasuring them is pretty low on the offense spectrum, but still it is ingrained in me to feel shame over something I've tried to change over and over.

If you had a choice would you not be a zoo? Sometimes I think I might. If it was a simple switch I would choose to be "normal"-- whatever that is. But I guess I really have no choice in this matter so I try to accept myself more. Some days are easier than others.
as long as all involved enjoy and are pleasured it is fine. Particularly a male dog ejaculating is pleasurable.
 
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