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Does your zoophilia come from trauma?

Protogenzoo said:
I wish zoophilia was more socially acceptable
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Dude, same. But my god society will never get to that point. Not in my lifetime anyway.

The only places in the world where people don't care that much about zoo is places that have basically 0 animal rights protections. And honestly, I would wayyyyyyy rather animal rights protections with criminalization for zoophilia than no animal protections at all.
 
LachlanLockedIn said:
Dude, same. But my god society will never get to that point. Not in my lifetime anyway.

The only places in the world where people don't care that much about zoo is places that have basically 0 animal rights protections. And honestly, I would wayyyyyyy rather animal rights protections with criminalization for zoophilia than no animal protections at all.
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considering the absolute horror of factory farming being the norm, i wouldn't consider the western world to have any real protections against animal cruelty. it's only potentially considered animal cruelty when it's not being done for profit. those laws have very little to do with actual concern for animal welfare
 
jimmer999 said:
considering the absolute horror of factory farming being the norm, i wouldn't consider the western world to have any real protections against animal cruelty. it's only potentially considered animal cruelty when it's not being done for profit. those laws have very little to do with actual concern for animal welfare
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I mean, yeah. Good point. Even so, laws against animal cruelty should definitely be on the books regardless if our enforcement of such laws is inconsistent and shitty. But yeah you're right, profit wins over basically everything including human welfare
 
My zoosexuality doesn't come from trauma as far as I know. Granted, I am neurodivergent but I had a fairly normal happy childhood. I guess in my case, the zoosexuality is innate. In a way, it's all about differences in communication for me.

And on the double standards on animal wellbeing: if society would base its animal protection laws on what is best for the animal rather than human profit, then that would lead to some uncomfortable (well, for mainstream society) changes...
 
AppleDash said:
My zoosexuality doesn't come from trauma as far as I know. Granted, I am neurodivergent but I had a fairly normal happy childhood. I guess in my case, the zoosexuality is innate. In a way, it's all about differences in communication for me.

And on the double standards on animal wellbeing: if society would base its animal protection laws on what is best for the animal rather than human profit, then that would lead to some uncomfortable (well, for mainstream society) changes...
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Certainly. But if it's between turbo cheap burgers and abolishing factory farming, I think the answer should be obvious
 
I've thought about this a lot, especially in therapy. And uh. Yeah- probably some of it comes from trauma. A lot of it also comes from the way I am though! The way we form relationships is based in what we learn from a very young age about connection and our needs being met- or not. For people with trauma, especially severe and repeated trauma, those patterns can look a little funky.

I've always felt my zoosexuality was a part of me like my gayness and transness. It was reinforced by how I was treated/what I was made to do, and nowadays how I view animals as "safe places" and generally attractive creatures lol. It's biological and psychological for me! I dunno. My therapist thinks all zoophilia is inherently an issue to be fixed though so who knows
 
LachlanLockedIn said:
I mean, yeah. Good point. Even so, laws against animal cruelty should definitely be on the books regardless if our enforcement of such laws is inconsistent and shitty. But yeah you're right, profit wins over basically everything including human welfare
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absolutely yes, animal cruelty needs to be a crime - we as a society just collectively need to have a good long think about what animal cruelty actually is, because as it currently stands it's a total mess of inconsistency, hypocrisy and puritanical moral panic. it's wild that people will eat a steak from walmart and in the same breath decry the act of person having sex with an animal. thinking really must be unpopular.
 
otherdog said:
I've thought about this a lot, especially in therapy. And uh. Yeah- probably some of it comes from trauma. A lot of it also comes from the way I am though! The way we form relationships is based in what we learn from a very young age about connection and our needs being met- or not. For people with trauma, especially severe and repeated trauma, those patterns can look a little funky.

I've always felt my zoosexuality was a part of me like my gayness and transness. It was reinforced by how I was treated/what I was made to do, and nowadays how I view animals as "safe places" and generally attractive creatures lol. It's biological and psychological for me! I dunno. My therapist thinks all zoophilia is inherently an issue to be fixed though so who knows
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fuck, it must be demoralizing having your therapist believe your zoosexuality is something inherently wrong that needs to be "fixed" much the same way a fundamentalist christian feels about homosexuality. personally i couldn't take life advice from somebody who felt that way about my innate self
 
jimmer999 said:
fuck, it must be demoralizing having your therapist believe your zoosexuality is something inherently wrong that needs to be "fixed" much the same way a fundamentalist christian feels about homosexuality. personally i couldn't take life advice from somebody who felt that way about my innate self
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tbh? I've been through conversion therapy too and I'd *love* to find a zoo friendly therapist but unfortunately those are hard to come by in my tax bracket. It does suck. Trust me. My zoosexuality isn't the only thing I downplay in our sessions. The only reason she even knows is because my trauma was primarily enacted using animals as the weapons (not their fault!!) ... If it were up to me, she'd never have known about any of this but- it was necessary to crack down on the mental illness thing

I'm also not paying her, let alone for life advice. She's around to help me decompress and talk about the things I learn with my psych team, and is part of the public health care system. Unfortunately I've got stack of actual problems that do need professional help to manage- so I can't just stop going. She gives sound advice for dealing with severe mental health episodes and that's what I sit in sessions for, not for her moral approval of my life

Almost all modern/western psych professionals are gonna tell ya zoosexuality is a paraphilia akin to pedophilia. They're gonna try and "fix" it, or at least lower your chance of "offending." At best they'll likely label your attractions as intrusive thoughts. So- i power through and just don't mention it as a thing that distresses me. We work on other stuff
 
otherdog said:
tbh? I've been through conversion therapy too and I'd *love* to find a zoo friendly therapist but unfortunately those are hard to come by in my tax bracket. It does suck. Trust me. My zoosexuality isn't the only thing I downplay in our sessions. The only reason she even knows is because my trauma was primarily enacted using animals as the weapons (not their fault!!) ... If it were up to me, she'd never have known about any of this but- it was necessary to crack down on the mental illness thing

I'm also not paying her, let alone for life advice. She's around to help me decompress and talk about the things I learn with my psych team, and is part of the public health care system. Unfortunately I've got stack of actual problems that do need professional help to manage- so I can't just stop going. She gives sound advice for dealing with severe mental health episodes and that's what I sit in sessions for, not for her moral approval of my life

Almost all modern/western psych professionals are gonna tell ya zoosexuality is a paraphilia akin to pedophilia. They're gonna try and "fix" it, or at least lower your chance of "offending." At best they'll likely label your attractions as intrusive thoughts. So- i power through and just don't mention it as a thing that distresses me. We work on other stuff
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absolutely fair enough. i know it's not at all realistic to expect to find a zoo positive therapist. i've seen a couple therapists myself, without any real success, but keeping this part of me from the spotlight of their ignorant judgement is something i have prioritized even if it means obfuscating my true self. i don't think i could face them if they knew. you're strong to trust in them despite this and i hope they're able to be impartial enough to still offer you genuine constructive help.
 
ggdk said:
I am reminded of an ol' Radio Yerevan joke which went something like this:
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you know, there's something we can strive for other than this and that which power-hungry authoritarian governments have referred to as communism. you've bought into a false dichotomy. the world's most powerful people rely on the ignorant belief that the only alternative to the current state of things is crippling poverty under soviet-style dictatorship. it's a fucking lie, my dude.
 
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