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I would not go so far and say that money don't give you more enjoyment. With a lot of money you can spend a big sum on things you enjoy.
I will exemplify with myself:
I really enjoy hitting the slopes with ski's and snowboard. Room to stay near such a location cost money, food is more expensive there, one needs gear and a ski pass, neither is cheap, other clothes than the regular clothes, also more expensive, bigger car to have room for all those stuff, cost of fuel.
With no money I would not be able to do what I enjoy, with a little money I would only be able to do it occasionally, but with a lot of money I would be able to do it basically when I want to.

So, with money comes the ability to do things you enjoy more often than compared to having very slim financial muscles.
 
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That's correct, but if we stay on this personal interest and hobby: You wouldn't need more than a few thousand $s or €s per month to do this basically all the time, the whole year long.

If you want to have 2 to 3 houses in very good shape and with lots of features, even big pools and so on.. you wouldn't need more than a few thousand to maybe twenty thousand $s/€s per month to gather those in quite a small time span (around 10 years for 2-3 villas).

What I talk about is the extreme difference between the 0,7-0,8% or how much it might be nowadays and the remaining 60-70% which are quite poor, while the 30%+ are somewhat able to take a longer aspect of realizing their goals - but without going very cost-effective and saving ways to do this (as example: learn how to do it and build your goals yourself - by your hands).

And in the top ~1% there's more or less all they would need for a life with all relevant(!) features and possibilities available after some hours of "working" (mostly: "waiting for others to work so they profit from it").

A few hours. Some people make the yearly median income of a two person working household in 17 seconds. How would you actually spent this? And how would you be able to not only "show off" (that's easy and you don't even need much money for it, actually), but to enjoy those goods? They won't have time to enjoy all the goods they might gather around.

And the more they gather, the more their wealth grows, the less they actually bond emotionally with all that stuff.

This is a big loss, a grave loss I would say. If they can't bond with whatever they buy, because for them it's of no "value in their life", then how would they enjoy their time with it to the fullest? How to reflect a part of their life invested in a goal - which they did not do and as such can't really feel - while using the acquired goods?

I personally would love infinite money, yes. But I wouldn't go around and just buy any and everything I see. Because it would be a very, very hollow life, a life where there was nothing of my existence really bond to anything else of personal value to me. Nothing really touches one if you don't value it's worth. It's just "there", but never "part of your being".

At the end such people which "have just too much whenever they want it" - and I don't talk about skiing trips :ROFLMAO: - will die and not experience even the value and companionship of a quite poor person which keeps a few sled dogs and a small hut somewhere in a colder region and works together with those to fulfill life's necessities.

That's what I see as "hollow": If you don't take your time to even think twice about some decision, but just play a game with "infinite money" cheat, it will get hella boring, you'll miss half the opportunities, 100% of all emotional bonding with personally worked-on goals and so on.
 
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YanchaOkami said:
That's correct, but if we stay on this personal interest and hobby: You wouldn't need more than a few thousand $s or €s per month to do this basically all the time, the whole year long.

If you want to have 2 to 3 houses in very good shape and with lots of features, even big pools and so on.. you wouldn't need more than a few thousand to maybe twenty thousand $s/€s per month to gather those in quite a small time span (around 10 years for 2-3 villas).

What I talk about is the extreme difference between the 0,7-0,8% or how much it might be nowadays and the remaining 60-70% which are quite poor, while the 30%+ are somewhat able to take a longer aspect of realizing their goals - but without going very cost-effective and saving ways to do this (as example: learn how to do it and build your goals yourself - by your hands).

And in the top ~1% there's more or less all they would need for a life with all relevant(!) features and possibilities available after some hours of "working" (mostly: "waiting for others to work so they profit from it").

A few hours. Some people make the yearly median income of a two person working household in 17 seconds. How would you actually spent this? And how would you be able to not only "show off" (that's easy and you don't even need much money for it, actually), but to enjoy those goods? They won't have time to enjoy all the goods they might gather around.

And the more they gather, the more their wealth grows, the less they actually bond emotionally with all that stuff.

This is a big loss, a grave loss I would say. If they can't bond with whatever they buy, because for them it's of no "value in their life", then how would they enjoy their time with it to the fullest? How to reflect a part of their life invested in a goal - which they did not do and as such can't really feel - while using the acquired goods?

I personally would love infinite money, yes. But I wouldn't go around and just buy any and everything I see. Because it would be a very, very hollow life, a life where there was nothing of my existence really bond to anything else of personal value to me. Nothing really touches one if you don't value it's worth. It's just "there", but never "part of your being".

At the end such people which "have just too much whenever they want it" - and I don't talk about skiing trips :ROFLMAO: - will die and not experience even the value and companionship of a quite poor person which keeps a few sled dogs and a small hut somewhere in a colder region and works together with those to fulfill life's necessities.

That's what I see as "hollow": If you don't take your time to even think twice about some decision, but just play a game with "infinite money" cheat, it will get hella boring, you'll miss half the opportunities, 100% of all emotional bonding with personally worked-on goals and so on.
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Most people don't have a few thousand $/€ to spend per month on hobbies.
Most people don't have few K to 20 k $/€ to put away to save up to houses.

I understand what you are saying about the extremely rich that can't spend all money they have in their life time.
But those are very few.
I only opposed your claim that money can't make your life more enjoyable. I did not hate my life when I was a student with more or less no money to spend on hobbies/stuff I enjoy, but you can't really argue that extra money to spend is a bad thing, for the vast majority of human, it is/would be a good thing.
 
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MrsShemon said:
Most people don't have a few thousand $/€ to spend per month on hobbies.
Most people don't have few K to 20 k $/€ to put away to save up to houses.

I understand what you are saying about the extremely rich that can't spend all money they have in their life time.
But those are very few.
I only opposed your claim that money can't make your life more enjoyable. I did not hate my life when I was a student with more or less no money to spend on hobbies/stuff I enjoy, but you can't really argue that extra money to spend is a bad thing, for the vast majority of human, it is/would be a good thing.
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Yes, most people don't have this "compared to the ~1% very very small amount" of money per month, exactly.

That's why I tried to explain that the "difference in enjoyment / happiness" is not really bound to "lots of money", but instead to "a sum which suffices to fulfill your requirements, which might vary".

If those are not fulfilled because of too less money, then you're absolutely right. But my point is regarding the side effects, basically the good and the bad of "more money available" in combination with ones own life and ego, the emotional constant being.

And this can technically only start above "all immediate requirements fulfilled", as this is the point at which one shifts to:
"Would be nice to have, but I don't even know when I will take time to use it" .. and then to:

"Oh, looks nice. *Clicks buy button*" .. and then to:

"I've got a green Lamborghini. Let's order a green metallic one, as I don't want to wait until the paint shop had remade this one. I'll just order it in the same feature set (maximum one, for sure) and then use it. Should be there in around three weeks, maybe two and a half."

I guess you can feel the missing part of connection even from this very simple description. Those persons lose something in their life which actually counts the most if their life ends. (I can tell this out of experience, as funny as this might read, just not only once).

As such I am all for people getting as much money as they need to fulfill the requirements they have.

To live a life which actually bonds with the experience of life, the experience of "how I got here from being in X, what do I do here, I am happy about X, Y and Z, because I value those things which were really hard to build, get, acquire - as a part of my life". A life where they look back and see more than "Using car 1, using car 2, using jet 1, using jet 2, event 1, .." - because that would be hollow. It misses everything their individual self could bond to.

But on the other hand: you can find people which even say:

"No thanks, I like to work for my goals. I would have more time, more free space, ways less hassle with my goals, I could even order some people to help - if I had more money. But I still prefer looking back at those hard years and having a fulfilling, rich life with lots of unexpected adventures, dangers, tasks, coexistent helping here and there."

It's all individual and those people might value their personal bond over the experience of time (which we living beings on this cute planet see as linear) higher than an easier, more comfortable and stress-free shortcut. Who knows..

The problem with "too less money" is well known to me, don't worry. ? I'm actually searching for an investor in relation of a six to seven digit sum which none of us could acquire out of our own savings or available sources. If this fails then I'm back to a very problematic situation, while the development itself is actually already existent (and in my hands), but it would vanish if there's no success.

And due to some other unfortunate event (which was what I wrote about further upwards) I've lost something very relevant: Motivation. You can't do shit without motivation or a goal. If you think "it doesn't matter.. it's all just a time killer.." then there's no avail.

Life's a hassle, but I still like this unfair and tragic structure of "being John Malkovich" - no, being one self.

Take your time to enjoy skiing or snowboarding and don't leave your loved ones out of your bonding with enjoying activities. (y)
 
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FloofyNewfie said:
I wonder how long of a book I could create if I took all the posts I've ever made here and combined them all into a single book?
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At least comparable to reading Karl May's books until meeting Hadschi Halef Omar the seventh time in a life-threatening situation. ?

Wow, this ? one came out really impressive, I have to say.

Almost nothing giving off a "weird" feeling - and this by something which includes realistic body proportions, interspecies sex, realistic reproductive organs, a ghost and wooden forest. A good success from the prompt director (not me, I just found it - but respect goes to the creator). ?‍♂️

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Yep, Rule34 and several other sites, but R34 as example is with a quite high percentage of weirdness, while I am more for realistic approaches of feral canids with animal genitalia. :ROFLMAO:

But with some filters it sizes down the "acceptable" to "what the duck is wrong in the mind of humans?!" ratio to at least 2:1 and there are mostly 1-3 good images per site, which I enjoy looking at.

Not even sexually, just pure entertainment due to their interestingly and appealingly drawn impressions. Did this as well in company, as shareholder and manager.. who cares? :ROFLMAO: Sitting there in business dress and looking at nicely drawn sexy images of canids.
 
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Lol - ain't that the truth. :ROFLMAO:
I never was really interested in anthro furry drawings with human genitalia, it's resembling a human for me and they're not of interest.

Had experiences with them, but if you love female canids, then you love female canids - and you can try everything interesting once or twice - or even a few weeks, but will still just love (relationship-level for a lifetime) female canids. This includes wolves, foxes (but that's not a thing which would work sexually, as red foxes are small), spotted hyenas (a problem to keep as a pet in this country with thousands of prerequisites), jackals, coyotes (same problem as with hyenas) and so on.

That's why I mostly look for female canids in drawings. ?‍♂️ Even as the male ones are just as cute - they're mostly drawn with a big inflated phallus outside the sheet and that's just not needed. I would be happy with a more natural pose (and less inflated vaginas as well!).
 
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