Any Info for those New to the Community...

KadeBoltz

Tourist
I am fairly new to being part of a Community and I keep hearing others talk about or mention the abuse of animals in porn.
So that made me wonder what others that identify as Zoo Exclusive consider sexual abuse on animals.
I'll admit that I have not watched a lot of Zoo Porn, so my definition of animal rape or abuse is very similar to that of humans. But the more I read and see on these forums, has me wondering what is considered abuse. I have never made or forced my canine lovers to perform when they don't want to, but I have seen one or two porn videos of people having their male companions penetrate them long after they have ejaculated. Is that considered abuse by most of, if not, all of you?
Does having sex with a female companion, when she is not in heat, fall under the definition of abuse?
Does having sex with a "Pet" that isn't yours, but one that belongs to a friend or family member fall under abuse? (Even if that animal has a prior relationship to you?)

I started young and I'll admit that I had sex with animals that were not my own, I never forced them and at times it happened long after I got to know the animal. But I have seen people comment that it's not accepted by them and some have even expressed that they see it as a form of abuse.
I also have seen porn videos that showed people having rough sex with animals and at times it seemed as though the animal wasn't enjoying or that it didn't want to be in that moment, I consider that abuse and rape. So I am not fully naive to the mistreatment of animals, but there times when I am reading comments from people on this site that make me think that all porn is unaccepted by the Zoo Exclusive Community. Although I am not particularly interested in making my own porn videos and distributing them online, I personally don't feel the need to shame anyone that does or shame anyone for watching. Let me preface this by saying that I used to search for Zoo Porn when I was younger, but don't do it as often or almost at all now a days since I get my desires fulfilled by my canine lover. But is that just me misreading or misunderstanding those who I think do not like Zoo Porn?

Please this is just a query and not a statement/questions made to rile up or cause a heated discussion. Just wanted to adjust how I see and talk to others in the community. But please let me know your thoughts and feelings, I am anxious to learn more about everyone and their views.
 

pes

Moderator
Staff member
So that made me wonder what others that identify as Zoo Exclusive consider sexual abuse on animals.
Plenty of examples:
This thread contains probably a hundred or more public reports that resulted in content being removed.
 

pes

Moderator
Staff member
Does having sex with a female companion, when she is not in heat, fall under the definition of abuse?
No as long as the animal wants to have sex. Some female animals are into that even outside of heat.
I have seen one or two porn videos of people having their male companions penetrate them long after they have ejaculated. Is that considered abuse by most of, if not, all of you
I am not sure what you mean by this. But while dildogging is not considered abuse by most, it is considered wrong practice, the same goes for people using limp horse dicks as toys. I usually include these in my reports since if the horse is displaying no arousal at all (and most of the time has not displayed any from the beginning) I consider it wrong.
Does having sex with a "Pet" that isn't yours, but one that belongs to a friend or family member fall under abuse? (Even if that animal has a prior relationship to you?)
This is not abuse, but having sex with animals which are not yours and you do not have consent of the owner is considered wrong. Since it can have horrible consequences for the animal. For example castration. In some examples of fence hopping the animal was injured by someone trying to have sex with it.
I am reading comments from people on this site that make me think that all porn is unaccepted by the Zoo Exclusive Community.
That is not true. As long as the animal is enjoying the action, it is acceptable. There is a plenty of content from various animals of all genders where it is clear that all participants want to have sex and are consenting.
 

Mare Lover 1975

Moderator
Staff member
I personally am very much against any animal abuse, but also have no issues with consensual sex with animals, in fact I've shared several videos with my own companions showing their consent and enjoyment.

I've had both canine and equine lovers that wanted sex regardless of being in season, and most are open to sex out of heat because they get more pleasure with a human mate than a male of their own species, ask any woman if she prefers fast rough sex with no orgasm or love making with multiple orgasms and you will understand why female animals are no different.
 

MishaCZ

Citizen of Zooville
Always nice to see new folks wanting to inform themselves on the topic before doing something. Agreed with the points pes gave you.
And nah, porn can still be a nice thing to watch, despite how many of us can be exhausted from continuesly seeing the same abusive practices, or/and commercial stuff with no feelings.
 

KadeBoltz

Tourist
No as long as the animal wants to have sex. Some female animals are into that even outside of heat.

I am not sure what you mean by this. But while dildogging is not considered abuse by most, it is considered wrong practice, the same goes for people using limp horse dicks as toys. I usually include these in my reports since if the horse is displaying no arousal at all (and most of the time has not displayed any from the beginning) I consider it wrong.

This is not abuse, but having sex with animals which are not yours and you do not have consent of the owner is considered wrong. Since it can have horrible consequences for the animal. For example castration. In some examples of fence hopping the animal was injured by someone trying to have sex with it.

That is not true. As long as the animal is enjoying the action, it is acceptable. There is a plenty of content from various animals of all genders where it is clear that all participants want to have sex and are consenting.
Thanks for the response, I appreciate you linking those threads.
I guess I should have been more clear on the whole asking "What Defines, or the Definitions" I really just meant what users on this site view as abuse or accepting practices. I just wanted to get a clear idea and understanding on what people thought and how I can make a better connection with others on a platonic level. See from their point of view and help myself acclimate to the community, maybe help others understand in the future as well.
I understand that all of the staff that Moderate the site will handle the breaking of rules and guidelines, I was just wondering what the consensus was on other peoples thoughts and feelings.
 

BlueBeard

Citizen of Zooville
There is no general consensus. Some of the censorship seems obviously justified to a majority of members. Some, a bit over zealous. And the reasoning for one that I saw, given last night? IMHO, It was pretty close to just banning bestial acts altogether. (BTW: Bestiality is an act; zoofilia, an orientation). I know some are going to argue "I know abuse when I see it!" When it comes to food play or rough-housing, I think it's very easy to misperceive and make erroneous judgments. Perhaps one person's experience perceives it to be abusive; another seconds the motion, making a childishly legalistic application of a "rule." Excessive. Danger is, it makes Zooville no longer a safe haven from society for those interested in bestiality -- at least for those here for the porn (which is just one tiny slice of the whole community). In trying to regulate what constitutes "sanctionable" bestial acts from "prosecutable" bestial acts, the line is wherever the censors' sensibilities place it. And that kind of power, itself, is easy to abuse.
 
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Goattobeloved

Esteemed Citizen of ZV
The thing is animals do not have verbal comunication.
You can not explain them what you want and have them agree before hand (informed consent), no agreed "safe word" or anything.

So the important point is *knowing* you are able to understand their reactions and see if it feels good to them or if they feel unconfortable with anything... and STOP if it happens.... even in the most annoying moment 😀

And yes. Holding them if they want to go away, either phisically or by orders, is abusive

When it comes to commercial, they simply can't stop because they already got the time, the place, the animal, the actress and the recording crew. Not being able to perform because the animal or the actress is not agreeing is... unacceptable. So those abuse films appear.

Obviously, for people who are not into it, they will likely happily wank to them, never suspecting some things are very wrong with them films.
 

BlueBeard

Citizen of Zooville
Good points. But is there any limit to the censorship? For me? -- I'm not here for porn, so you could get rid of all the porn on this site for all I care, just make this a textual community. But we're not just censoring links now. Our "staff" is now intervening when people answer others here about which flicks/actors/actresses they can Google for such-and-such interests? (Last night's case was, person seeking woman/female-dog porn) References to offsite searches have to be censored now, too???

Yet this site tolerates "owners" who are here pimping out their animals, looking for women in particular, who are seeking an "experience." Offering our animals to strangers as sex workers is abusive, isn't it? But I don't think we prohibit use of this site to offer animals as sex slaves. To me, prohibiting that would be at *least* as noble a gesture is banning this or that clip of porn from the site. And stop all talk of "training" an animal to have sex with humans, as well as "where can I get my own animal to have sex with?" Cart before the horse (no pun).

We could make it so this site is not a vehicle of abuse, period. (Once we, as the OP asks, define concretely what is/isn't abuse).

But if it's "lie and let live," as I was so often told when I first joined in 2019, warned that we all have to "hang together or hang separately," then targeting porn clips one-by-one without banning solicitation of bestiality and animal pimping from this site is a really lame moral enforcement concept.

Who's bold enough to say where *that* line should be drawn?
 
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KadeBoltz

Tourist
Good points. But is there any limit to the censorship? For me? -- I'm not here for porn, so you could get rid of all the porn on this site for all I care, just make this a textual community. But we're not just censoring links now. Our "staff" is now intervening when people answer others here about which flicks/actors/actresses they can Google for such-and-such interests? (Last night's case was, person seeking woman/female-dog porn) References to offsite searches have to be censored now, too???

Yet this site tolerates "owners" who are here pimping out their animals, looking for women in particular, who are seeking an "experience." Offering our animals to strangers as sex workers is abusive, isn't it? But I don't think we prohibit use of this site to offer animals as sex slaves. To me, prohibiting that would be at *least* as noble a gesture is banning this or that clip of porn from the site. And stop all talk of "training" an animal to have sex with humans, as well as "where can I get my own animal to have sex with?" Cart before the horse (no pun).

We could make it so this site is not a vehicle of abuse, period. (Once we, as the OP asks, define concretely what is/isn't abuse).

But if it's "lie and let live," as I was so often told when I first joined in 2019, warned that we all have to "hang together or hang separately," then targeting porn clips one-by-one without banning solicitation of bestiality and animal pimping from this site is a really lame moral enforcement concept.

Who's bold enough to say where *that* line should be drawn?
Thank you, you really give me something to think about.
You mentioned "Pimping" I'm gonna look more into that, I'll admit I've heard about it and of course read fiction fantasies about that kind of stuff. But I have never talked with anyone that does it, nor have I been approached with an offer. I get the whole doing away with the porn section, I went there when I first joined but it didn't really do anything for me and I too haven't been back there. I have no desire to share my companion, nor do feel the overwhelming desire to watch the porn that is already floating around the internet. There are fantasy scenerios that pop into my head about celebrities I admire, fictional characters that interest me and the occasional animated character. But nothing about everyday people makes me want to seek there videos out and pleasure myself to the images.
Thank you again for your opinion.
 

Twelvepaws

Citizen of Zooville
BANNED USER
I'm only know with female dogs. You can clearly see from her posture, her small movements, her facial expression, her behavior that she wants to have sex at that moment or not. If she wants, she likes it a lot, she likes it moderately, she likes it a little. This can also be seen in videos, I don't like videos where the dog doesn't seem to like it. This does not immediately mean that the dog is in bad conditions, just that he was not in the mood at the time the video was taken. But I don't like these videos.

Dogs need a mood for sex just like humans do. These mood dates are not always together. For those who only have one dog, this can cause discomfort. I have many dogs, so the mood times tend to fit well.

The dog's brain is at the developmental level to be able to understand that he has sex with humans not for procreation, but for pleasure. Therefore, sex with the dog outside of heat is perfectly fine. If the dog wants it too.

Having sex with another dog is immoral. The only exception to this is when, in your teenage years, you are not yet fit to keep your own dog, but your sexual desire and curiosity are strong, so you have sex with the family dog. That's fine. Later, if you already have your own dog, it is unethical to have sex with another dog, even if the person has given permission. The dog is not an exchangeable sex partner. I am monogamous (my own pack monogamous).

Since I have my own dog (15 y ago), I no longer watch porn, only the ones that show my favorite breed of dog. And such videos are rare because I have rare breeds of dogs.
 
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