What is wrong with some men here and everywhere?

LoftyLemur

Tourist
Totally agree that there is some very worrying stuff in the porn section, and not enough people who seem to recognize when an animal is not offering consent or enjoying themselves. However there is also lots of excellent porn where the animal is clearly enthusiastically engaged. But that's a tangent.
I honestly don't think the nude pics are anything more than people broadcasting that they are DTF, open to and looking for casual encounters. Yeah it's annoying for the 9/10 people who don't want to see that, but it just takes that last one who is interested to make posting the nude worthwhile. And no, I'm not into that.
Yeah I think I kinda went off the rails of what I was supposed to be talking about, I completely agree with you on the reason behind the photos. I'd certainly be a hypocrite if I said I didn't enjoy some of the porn.
 
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Krimsonking

Guest
Okay this is a serious question for all the guys out there that put their own dick pic as their profile picture....and then try to find a woman to chat or meet. Do you really think women like this? First thing to see from you is your small ugly hairy dick? Is here a woman that likes this? What do you guys expect from this? That some woman start to chat with you because of your dick pic? Did it ever work out for you?

Then the other thing are the guys in some threads that react to a video like "oh look how the slut is taking it" ... "i bet the whore would like my dick too" ... i mean holy shit we all hope to see many more women having sex with dogs so we can appreciate the content...and some woman may see this bullshit comments and think...no way i keep this totally private because of idiots like this. I mean yeah maybe there are some woman that like to be degraded like this but i think that is the minority.

I mean do whatever you want and act like you want but i really ask myself if you get anything out of this behaviour.
You're on a porn/fetish site and you expect the men to be polite and cordial???
 
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Krimsonking

Guest
You sir, are an idiot

If you're just a garbage human being you can say so. But there's no reason why "porn/fetish" material should make you be rude or shitty to someone. That's like saying "it's hot outside so I am going to punch someone." No, you're just using aspects of the situation to explain shitty behavior.
Using your logic, that's like going to a bar and expecting a quiet pleasant evening then getting offended because everyone is being loud and obnoxious. Ergo, you clearly don't understand that certain things like a SEX WEBSITE are going to have a certain clientele who are very uncouth. That's the nature of the beast. If it offends you that bad, then go somewhere else, idiot.
 

Ted Danson Machine

Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Using your logic, that's like going to a bar and expecting a quiet pleasant evening then getting offended because everyone is being loud and obnoxious. Ergo, you clearly don't understand that certain things like a SEX WEBSITE are going to have a certain clientele who are very uncouth. That's the nature of the beast. If it offends you that bad, then go somewhere else, idiot.
Not sure what you don't understand.
Yes, there will be shitty people here, just like anywhere you go. But by YOUR logic, people who become members of this forum should expect to be treated like shit? Also, since there is pornography on the site (it's NOT a porn site, it's a community forum for people who live/are interested in the zoo lifestyle, porn is just a small part of this site), you have to change your personality and be rude or nasty? If your personality irl is just being an asshole, that's one thing. But your original comment said
You're on a porn/fetish site and you expect the men to be polite and cordial???
So people can't come to a site like this and not expect to be treated with respect or politeness?
I treat people nicely unless they give me a reason not to. There is ZERO reason why respect and eroticism have to be opposing forces. That's just ignorant.
 

Ted Danson Machine

Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Using your logic, that's like going to a bar and expecting a quiet pleasant evening then getting offended because everyone is being loud and obnoxious. Ergo, you clearly don't understand that certain things like a SEX WEBSITE are going to have a certain clientele who are very uncouth. That's the nature of the beast. If it offends you that bad, then go somewhere else, idiot.
also, if you bother to read the site rules you might see this on the literal first page
1. No spamming other people's posts or spamming links. DO NOT SPAM ARTICLES/BLOGS TAB WITH YOUR PERSONALS!

2. No flaming. Including harassment of members. Infractions and a possible ban depending on severity will be in order. Please use respect with each other.
Disagreements can happen. If a conflict starts to get heated. LEAVE THE DISCUSSION.

Respectful to others:
Everyone has different opinions - We ask that everyone be respectful to others on this forum. If you disagree with someone, state your contrasting opinion using clear and concise points. Insulting members is not tolerated.
There are certain areas of this forum that are more open in terms of freedom of speech. BUT, do however use common sense when in these areas. Do know that using any forms of threats towards a person will receive a ban by a pre-determined amount of days set forth by staff.
Please keep topics ON TOPIC. No matter the thread a person is viewing. Please ensure posts remain on topic, do not derail to cause flame wars, or simply name call.
 
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Krimsonking

Guest
also, if you bother to read the site rules you might see this on the literal first page
1. No spamming other people's posts or spamming links. DO NOT SPAM ARTICLES/BLOGS TAB WITH YOUR PERSONALS!

2. No flaming. Including harassment of members. Infractions and a possible ban depending on severity will be in order. Please use respect with each other.
Disagreements can happen. If a conflict starts to get heated. LEAVE THE DISCUSSION.

Respectful to others:
Everyone has different opinions - We ask that everyone be respectful to others on this forum. If you disagree with someone, state your contrasting opinion using clear and concise points. Insulting members is not tolerated.
There are certain areas of this forum that are more open in terms of freedom of speech. BUT, do however use common sense when in these areas. Do know that using any forms of threats towards a person will receive a ban by a pre-determined amount of days set forth by staff.
Please keep topics ON TOPIC. No matter the thread a person is viewing. Please ensure posts remain on topic, do not derail to cause flame wars, or simply name call.
Why don't you go post your feelings on the matter over in the "I'm An Easily Offended Snowflake" section. If you want to come to a hardcore porn/fetish site and expect to be treated like it's a women's bible study group, then you're delusional.
 

Ted Danson Machine

Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Why don't you go post your feelings on the matter over in the "I'm An Easily Offended Snowflake" section. If you want to come to a hardcore porn/fetish site and expect to be treated like it's a women's bible study group, then you're delusional.
Who said I was offended by anything? You seem to be getting a bit worked up there bud.
Also why would there be an "easily offended snowflake" section if this were indeed a "hardcore porn/fetish site"? Kinda just proved my point that it's NOT that kind of site
 
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Krimsonking

Guest
Who said I was offended by anything? You seem to be getting a bit worked up there bud.
Also why would there be an "easily offended snowflake" section if this were indeed a "hardcore porn/fetish site"? Kinda just proved my point that it's NOT that kind of site
I was being satirical. Clearly that went over your head like most things do. Anyway snowflake, I'm leaving now, you can just keep being a fearsome lil keyboard warrior all you want. I hope you're treated with the utmost dignity and respect on this site, but if any dirty men on here try to show you their peepee just tell me and I'll make them stop, ok?
 

Ted Danson Machine

Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I was being satirical. Clearly that went over your head like most things do. Anyway snowflake, I'm leaving now, you can just keep being a fearsome lil keyboard warrior all you want. I hope you're treated with the utmost dignity and respect on this site, but if any dirty men on here try to show you their peepee just tell me and I'll make them stop, ok?
I'm treated very well, mostly because I'm not an asshole for no reason or a misogynist piece of garbage like yourself. Also, I'm a guy, so please stop flirting with me.
 
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SyzygySin

Tourist
Okay this is a serious question for all the guys out there that put their own dick pic as their profile picture....and then try to find a woman to chat or meet. Do you really think women like this?

As a guy, I don't like this either. However, it's not the picture per se I don't like, but the attitude that goes along with it. As somebody else here said, some women also use pictures of their breasts or genitalia. But in the majority (although not all) of the male profiles that do this, the person seems to have an aggressive and entitled attitude. I agree that the picture and the attitude impart a negative reaction on the part of most viewers who don't belong to the same group.

As for why this is, I put it down to a certain cultural upbringing that lacks subtlety and an awareness of others. In some cases it probably works right away—attracting the attention of the kind of person who is not put off by it. (And, in fact, maybe that's the point.) But when it doesn't work right away, and I suspect that's most of the time, it will never work at all; in fact, it will cause an immediate negative reaction that's difficult to counter.

I've used the avatar that I do here on many different sites over many years. I don't provide a picture of myself for obvious reasons, but I also want to use something that's somewhat unique and artistic. (It's a painting by Gil Bruvel.) While I might be turned on by the subject matter on this site, and while I might want to gain the attention of some women who frequent this site, I have my own sensibilities—and putting genitalia into my avatar would run counter to that.

When looking at the avatars of women, am I hypocritically interested in those with female genitalia? Sometimes, if I'm honest. But most of the time I find that I'm more intrigued by unique and non-sexual avatars. More than that, however, I look to the content of the person's posts and of their biographies. If they have nothing interesting to say, then I generally ignore them. I'm always disappointed by empty biographies—regardless of the avatar.

As you say in your original post, what some people want to do is fine for them. It's just not for me.
 

widget46

Zooville Settler
BANNED USER
Okay this is a serious question for all the guys out there that put their own dick pic as their profile picture....and then try to find a woman to chat or meet. Do you really think women like this? First thing to see from you is your small ugly hairy dick? Is here a woman that likes this? What do you guys expect from this? That some woman start to chat with you because of your dick pic? Did it ever work out for you?

Then the other thing are the guys in some threads that react to a video like "oh look how the slut is taking it" ... "i bet the whore would like my dick too" ... i mean holy shit we all hope to see many more women having sex with dogs so we can appreciate the content...and some woman may see this bullshit comments and think...no way i keep this totally private because of idiots like this. I mean yeah maybe there are some woman that like to be degraded like this but i think that is the minority.

I mean do whatever you want and act like you want but i really ask myself if you get anything out of this behaviour.
what is the difference between a small hairy dick and a small hairy dick with a smile on his face?
 

Ozguy49

Citizen of Zooville
Okay this is a serious question for all the guys out there that put their own dick pic as their profile picture....and then try to find a woman to chat or meet. Do you really think women like this? First thing to see from you is your small ugly hairy dick? Is here a woman that likes this? What do you guys expect from this? That some woman start to chat with you because of your dick pic? Did it ever work out for you?

Then the other thing are the guys in some threads that react to a video like "oh look how the slut is taking it" ... "i bet the whore would like my dick too" ... i mean holy shit we all hope to see many more women having sex with dogs so we can appreciate the content...and some woman may see this bullshit comments and think...no way i keep this totally private because of idiots like this. I mean yeah maybe there are some woman that like to be degraded like this but i think that is the minority.

I mean do whatever you want and act like you want but i really ask myself if you get anything out of this behaviour.
It really annoys the hell out of me that some men (maybe a lot) do this because it makes us all look bad. Trust me we are not and some of us understand what respect is 😉
 

urdoomed

Tourist
I really cant imagine sending someone I barely know an unsolicited dick pic. I've had women I work with tell me it happens to them frequently and I just don't get it.

Any relationships I've had with women there had to be something there, a spark, before that happened. The conversation would lead itself there naturally and there would be pictures sent both ways and fun was had on both sides.

I think some men do this as a sort of casting out a "net" if you will. Chances are they sent that pic to many women and if even just one responds positivly then that's a win for them.

No amount of fussing or anything will ever change this though, at least in my opinion.

There's unfortunate things that both male and females do. For example, the attractive women that take advantage of said horny boys and turn a profit off them. You could argue that's good business but you could also argue that it doesn't do much to help the male viewpoint on sex or women.

To me, when I found this site, it's been like all the others, so I was unsurprised to see avatars like this. In fact I just assumed it was business as usual.

As for how males respond to porn videos here... I suppose that just all depends on what you're down for. I just think of it as "dirty talk". While it may be aimed at people they don't even know...well, it's the internet and that's the way it is. Anonymity is a powerful thing and as such that's just what you're going get. Also this site's owners and mods allow it also. So I would assume if you don't like it then petition to have it changed or just find another site where the rules are different. Like many others I feel like that's just the nature of the beast here. It's a forum where the subject matter is a VERY taboo fetish along with having a section for pornography. It's a little naive to think you wouldn't find that kind of behavior here.
 

amorousdog5

Zooville Settler
It's actually more common for men to exploit the affections of women for money, so the stereotype of the gold-digging woman is maybe one we need to retire.
 

Cajlatsa

Citizen of Zooville
This has nothing to do with genitals but is somewhat relevant to the post content - maybe?

men are just happier people

the world is your urinal

same work more pay

you know stuff about tanks

you can play with toys all of your life

you can christmas shop for 25 relatives on christmas eve in 25 minutes

men are just happier people!
 
Your source (Forbes) doesn't back up your claim that "It's actually more common for men to exploit the affections of women for money".
In the article that you you posted it even says: "There are five million members on SeekingArrangement. Overall, the site has 3.8 million Sugar Babies, and 12% are male"
If 12% of sugar babies are male it is very likely that 88% are female. Your statement is just not true. Reading more than the headline helps.
 

amorousdog5

Zooville Settler
Your source (Forbes) doesn't back up your claim that "It's actually more common for men to exploit the affections of women for money".
In the article that you you posted it even says: "There are five million members on SeekingArrangement. Overall, the site has 3.8 million Sugar Babies, and 12% are male"
If 12% of sugar babies are male it is very likely that 88% are female. Your statement is just not true. Reading more than the headline helps.
Quote from the same article: "Then there's the evolving conception of romance. Despite Disney fairy tales and Jared commercials, not all people marry for love. Two in 10 single adults can be classified as 'gold diggers' saying that they would marry somebody for their money, according to DDB's Life Style Study. And 54% of these gold diggers are men."

It's up to you if you want to take the study or the population of a particular website as the more accurate cross-section.
 

Kangaroo08

Tourist
While this is a valid concern, please also notice the number of vaginal, ass and breast related profile pics put up by women. This is by no means a men only problem. Just like some men behave this way, some women behave this was as well. :D

A vagina can be an unbearably ugly picture looking like a piece of badly cut moldy, leaky ham. Some breasts are simply unwatchable due to their shape, color or a combination of those. And the same goes for whatever female body orifice/part you can see in profile pics on this forum.

Does it work for those female profiles?
What do they expect from it?
Do they really think men want to see that? ...
Sadly men are the ones who post these profiles.
 

K9jack

Tourist
Bro, if you think they aren't attracted to bad men then you really need to wake up.
I think I exactly said that. I said they seem to be less interested in mature intelligent males to do dirty things with, although I definitely believe both options are not exclusive. As an intelligent gentleman you can also be rather kinky or depraved, it just doesn't show on the outside as openly.
 

rainfinder

Tourist
For real. I’ve done some crossdressing and I get the most unclassy and low effort DMs from guys sent to my inbox. Like maybe 1/10 can even form a coherent sentence!
 

Nanard-15

Lurker
D’accord, c’est une question sérieuse pour tous les gars qui mettent leur propre photo de bite comme photo de profil.... Et puis essayez de trouver une femme à discuter ou à rencontrer. Pensez-vous vraiment que les femmes aiment ça? La première chose à voir de vous est votre petite bite poilue et laide? Est-ce qu’il y a une femme qui aime ça ? Qu’attendez-vous de cela ? Qu’une femme commence à discuter avec vous à cause de votre photo de bite? Cela a-t-il déjà fonctionné pour vous?

Ensuite, l’autre chose, ce sont les gars dans certains fils qui réagissent à une vidéo comme « oh regarde comment la salope la prend » ... « Je parie que la pute aimerait aussi ma bite »... Je veux dire merde, nous espérons tous voir beaucoup plus de femmes avoir des relations sexuelles avec des chiens afin que nous puissions apprécier le contenu ... Et certaines femmes peuvent voir ces commentaires à la con et penser... Pas question que je garde cela totalement privé à cause d’idiots comme ça. Je veux dire, oui, peut-être qu’il y a des femmes qui aiment être dégradées comme ça, mais je pense que c’est la minorité.

Je veux dire faire ce que vous voulez et agir comme vous voulez, mais je me demande vraiment si vous retirez quelque chose de ce comportement.
Triste vue des femmes
 

valleyyote

Citizen of Zooville
In all of your years on this earth but you still miss out on man/woman dynamics... I feel less bad about myself now, thanks.
Oh but I do. I have never utilized any anatomical pics of myself anywhere unless it is requested which happens on occasion. I never really understod the whole unsolicited did pic phone thing either that one was truly, epically retarded, and juvenile. I'm guessing many guys and gals here are doing it just to see people bitch and whine. Trolls and jerks aplenty. My mom had a saying about what not to do when I was being teased "don't react to it and they will stop." Ignore it and move on in other words. Allow others their freedom and use yours to do your own thing. Dictatorships are ugly and no fun at all.
 
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