Online Security

egoldstein said:
I have not and communicate with others who's accounts appear to be functioning as expected. Don't know what policy violation you're suspected of, but anonymous != unreadable. If you're doing things that are against policy and want to persist at such, might I recommend encrypting your communications (a-la pgp) so the provider has no idea what you are communicating? Alternatively, if Proton is concerned, perhaps reexamine what you're doing and ask yourself if maybe it's you that's gone astray? Don't know the details (and I'm not asking) so not judging, just offering an answer and some commentary that some might find useful.
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It happened immediately after I registered here, I hadn't used it for anything else. I'm not too worried about it, I was just curious if anyone else had come across a similar happening
 
Always use a vpn, made a blunder and joined telegram, other users you accept can see your mobile number 😏
 
Most of the mainstream VPN services are snitches and also corporate with feds, you want to use a VPN service that allows you to pay in crypto preferably in XMR
Mulvad VPN is the best
If you are on windows please atleast use ccleaner lol
Consider using tails, qubes, whonix or even fucking Linux for an OS as windows is garbage for opsec
Proxies are also better than a VPN
Use protonmail for email addresses
I like to use tails OS with a USB boot load
 
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MakeWhiteWolf said:
Most of the mainstream VPN services are snitches and also corporate with feds, you want to use a VPN service that allows you to pay in crypto preferably in XMR
Mulvad VPN is the best
If you are on windows please atleast use ccleaner lol
Consider using tails, qubes, whonix or even fucking Linux for an OS as windows is garbage for opsec
Proxies are also better than a VPN
Use protonmail for email addresses
I like to use tails OS with a USB boot load
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That the Company allows payment in crypto do not guarantee that your IP and data stream is hidden.
Maybe even the opposite. Why should I trust someone who are willing to hide the money?
 
humananimal said:
That the Company allows payment in crypto do not guarantee that your IP and data stream is hidden.
Maybe even the opposite. Why should I trust someone who are willing to hide the money?
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Network traffic is never truly hidden, there are numerous attacks that can be performed to reveal the two distinct ends of a transmission that only require access to the flow metadata that is readily available to state-level actors, they don't need access to the unencrypted data to manage correlation between incoming and outgoing flows. From there it's not a difficult task to discern the source of the traffic. While there are methods to make that more difficult, they're largely outside the usage of the individual. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can't hide from a gov if they're actively looking for you.
 
humananimal said:
That the Company allows payment in crypto do not guarantee that your IP and data stream is hidden.
Maybe even the opposite. Why should I trust someone who are willing to hide the money?
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Mullvad is the 1# used VPN service by darknet users for a reason

egoldstein said:
Network traffic is never truly hidden, there are numerous attacks that can be performed to reveal the two distinct ends of a transmission that only require access to the flow metadata that is readily available to state-level actors, they don't need access to the unencrypted data to manage correlation between incoming and outgoing flows. From there it's not a difficult task to discern the source of the traffic. While there are methods to make that more difficult, they're largely outside the usage of the individual. I've said it before and I'll say it again, you can't hide from a gov if they're actively looking for you.
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If you are a true nut job you can buy a burner phone and a prepaid data sim in store with physical cash and Set up the phone not using your own ID then GEO spoof the phone while using a proxy then use the phone as a hotspot to connect assuming the laptop or pc also has military grade opsec too Lmao that would be my personal best bet as online anonymity but fuck no ones gonna do that
 
I hear it's dangerous to post photos that contain clouds or windows, I've heard stories about people who have tracked down others through weather charts and Zillow listings, even with stripped metadata. Even backyard shots that have a tree or imported plant can be used against you. Of course those are just stories posted on the good ol interwebs, but I guess you can't be too careful.
 
MakeWhiteWolf said:
Most of the mainstream VPN services are snitches and also corporate with feds, you want to use a VPN service that allows you to pay in crypto preferably in XMR
Mulvad VPN is the best
If you are on windows please atleast use ccleaner lol
Consider using tails, qubes, whonix or even fucking Linux for an OS as windows is garbage for opsec
Proxies are also better than a VPN
Use protonmail for email addresses
I like to use tails OS with a USB boot load
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protonmail has and continues to give user data to law enforcement. bad suggestion. look i get it i watch mental outlaw on youtube too, but if law enforcement was going after zoo porn consumers via isp data or tracker data we'd know. Not like who and what for are on the court dockets is hidden.

the old advice is always the best advice. no personally identifying information in your comments or uploads. exercise discretion in pm's. only view content on your own devices and your own network/cell plan. if they are getting a warrant for your ip's traffic from your isp, it aint cus they fingerprinted your browser in windows, its cus someone else reported suspicious behavior on their network or in person observation or cus you told them cus ofc you did lol.
 
avocado said:
Out of curiosity, other than ostracism , shunnings etc... What are the fines/incarceration? Let's say EU and North America. How bad can it get?

I don't use vpn or nothing on my phone browser Willynilly but I also don't give a fuck what people think of my porn habits. someone explain?

Also echelon makes vpn/tor an imaginary security, like the guy above said, if someone wants to know, they will.
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In the uk I know a couple of people who had >1 year prison sentences and had their animal confiscated, banned from keeping animals and on the sex offenders register.
I know another person who had a court order to have their dog neutered, and they were placed on the register too and ther got a 6 month suspended sentence. Part of the conditions attached to not doing time was she has to see a therapist fortnightly for 6 months. The first therapist apparently couldn't hide her disgust and she had to seek a more sympathetic therapist.

Be safe people.
 
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uk zoo said:
In the uk I know a couple of people who had >1 year prison sentences and had their animal confiscated, banned from keeping animals and on the sex offenders register.
I know another person who had a court order to have their dog neutered, and they were placed on the register too and ther got a 6 month suspended sentence. Part of the conditions attached to not doing time was she has to see a therapist fortnightly for 6 months. The first therapist apparently couldn't hide her disgust and she had to seek a more sympathetic therapist.

Be safe people.
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I might be wrong having not read through this thread since i last commented, but the comment youre replying to reads like he's wondering about possible legal risks of consuming zoo porn rather than possible risks of being caught in the act or creating/distributing self-made zoo porn. I'd be curious as well if thats something actually pursued anywhere or if it, as it appears to be, is similar to something like pirating movies in the eyes of the law.
 
As I had to open a Proton mail and VPN, pretty sure that's not even secure, but one thing I did when still a member on BeastForum etc, I switched off my location tag in the camera settings, but know somehow there are still ways to be traced, the only thing, apart from my family, I keep my zoo life to myself when in public, or on social media, whatsapp etc. But thanks for the heads up.
 
MrBeasty23 said:
As I had to open a Proton mail and VPN, pretty sure that's not even secure, but one thing I did when still a member on BeastForum etc, I switched off my location tag in the camera settings, but know somehow there are still ways to be traced, the only thing, apart from my family, I keep my zoo life to myself when in public, or on social media, whatsapp etc. But thanks for the heads up.
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with metadata properly removed from photos there will be no location data traveling packaged with your photos online. Removing exif data from photos is very simple and easy as well. That said, andrew tate just doxxed himself with a pizza box and 4chan found that kid who was abusing his cat in the early days of youtube off his green carpet and a tip on what county he was in. be deliberate in your internet footprint and you'll likely be ok, assuming youre not also running a dark web drug market or distributing/producing pedophilic material. if thats the case the fbi is already outside your house as i type this. :)
 
Thanks shortbutfast, no, I am not involved in any dark Web drug marketing etc, I don't attach myself to any unsafe links etc, try to observe /do thorough research 😉
 
shortbutfast said:
That said, andrew tate just doxxed himself with a pizza box and 4chan found that kid who was abusing his cat in the early days of youtube off his green carpet and a tip on what county he was in.
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I don't think most people realize the sheer power of detective crowdsourcing. If you post something like a photo with your living room, bedroom, bathroom, etc. in the background you could be putting your security at risk. There was a user on here that was identified by merely the antique bedframe in the background of the video she made having sex with her dog. Her story was quite a sad one too, as once she was doxxed her information spread like wildfire and made her day to day life an absolute living nightmare.

I very seldom post photos on here, and what little I have shared I generally heavily blur the background for that very reason. Hell, even my avatar is a heavily doctored photo of my dog sitting in my living room. Absolutely every trace of the background was scrubbed, and her face/color was also modified a bit as well. It's also why I find threads like "post a picture of your animal partners" and "post a picture of your view today" absolutely cringeworthy.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
I don't think most people realize the sheer power of detective crowdsourcing. If you post something like a photo with your living room, bedroom, bathroom, etc. in the background you could be putting your security at risk. There was a user on here that was identified by merely the antique bedframe in the background of the video she made having sex with her dog. Her story was quite a sad one too, as once she was doxxed her information spread like wildfire and made her day to day life an absolute living nightmare.

I very seldom post photos on here, and what little I have shared I generally heavily blur the background for that very reason. Hell, even my avatar is a heavily doctored photo of my dog sitting in my living room. Absolutely every trace of the background was scrubbed, and her face/color was also modified a bit as well. It's also why I find threads like "post a picture of your animal partners" and "post a picture of your view today" absolutely cringeworthy.
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while not an answer for the kind of doxxing we've been mentioning, i highly recommend checking out Fawkes if you havent already. University of Chicago project thats a direct answer to the clearview ai dataset-trained facial tracking software in use. learns off the same dataset and algorithmically tweaks faces in photographs in such a manner as to leave you looking mostly the same to your own eyes in a photo, yet like a completely different person to tracking models. Not something that ai models can train around, either. if they train their models on tweaked photos it taints multiple generations and iterations of ai training models, flippin genius stuff. http://sandlab.cs.uchicago.edu/fawkes/

hope the tech makes its way to video post processing soon if it hasnt already.
 
I am in the UK and wanted to post some stories. I know most of the discussion is about images or videos etc which i understand is risky but if its just a story is this still a big risk? :(
 
bubbleprincess69 said:
I am in the UK and wanted to post some stories. I know most of the discussion is about images or videos etc which i understand is risky but if its just a story is this still a big risk? :(
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Hi, in the Writing and Stories section, just don't use real names, places, and not too much detail in perspective about information that can be traced, in the Porn section, videos not showing things that can be identified like location, the place, house etc, which you disable your cameras location and sure of the video recording too.
 
MrBeasty23 said:
Hi, in the Writing and Stories section, just don't use real names, places, and not too much detail in perspective about information that can be traced, in the Porn section, videos not showing things that can be identified like location, the place, house etc, which you disable your cameras location and sure of the video recording too.
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ok thank you. The stories i post wuld be 100% fiction anyways and i dont like in the USA so i make up places in the USA like a random State or City area for the location of the story event, nothing more and thats just from my own general knowledge of geography not based on any actual visited or knows real place to link me to. I just was more asking about the fact i would be posting a fictional story and nothing more. I have no intention of using any real fact or details. How risky is fictional story posting?
 
Whether fictional or true, as long as it won't be identified to give yourself away to unwanted prying eyes. See my true story, my whole life, in My Life how I got involved into beastiality in the Men and Animals section of Writing and Stories, I kept to minimal details of the names, just like the main topics, no real location where I was, or mentioned any town /city
 
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