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dogmoss

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coming to terms with the fact I find dogs sexually attractive... however I'm still not sure I should indulge such urges. I feel this might be caused by trauma when I was young or something. I messed around with the family dog a lot when I was young and have always been curious of the porn off and on. I'm very confused and need to talk about these feelings more. So if you'd like to talk I'd appreciate it.
 
Welcome on in buddy. These feelings can be a common occurrence and are difficult to deal with. There are many supportive people here and I'm also happy to talk about it with you if you ever want? Just shoot me a dm and I'll be happy to chat.
Just know you aren't alone ❤️
 
dogmoss said:
coming to terms with the fact I find dogs sexually attractive... however I'm still not sure I should indulge such urges. I feel this might be caused by trauma when I was young or something. I messed around with the family dog a lot when I was young and have always been curious of the porn off and on. I'm very confused and need to talk about these feelings more. So if you'd like to talk I'd appreciate it.
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Welcome
 
just more confessions, but when I told my therapist I was having thoughts like this she said I might have OCD. however these thoughts aren't that unwanted in all honesty. they're only unwanted because I feel my life would be ruined if I indulged. so is it truly intrusive thoughts if I secretly enjoy them? what is wrong with me?
 
dogmoss said:
I think I'm too new to dm. thank you for the kind words.
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That's okay. I think it's 10 messages sent until dms open so you're already well on your way. Still, don't rush it as it'll happen sooner or later and the awesome people here aren't going anywhere
 
dogmoss said:
just more confessions, but when I told my therapist I was having thoughts like this she said I might have OCD. however these thoughts aren't that unwanted in all honesty. they're only unwanted because I feel my life would be ruined if I indulged. so is it truly intrusive thoughts if I secretly enjoy them? what is wrong with me?
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Not a therapist, but it doesn't sound horrible or unwanted to me. More like fear of what would happen if someone found out (which is very fair, depending on where you live that can be a real issue).
I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking these thoughts, and there's nothing wrong with you. The brain is just strange and does silly overthinking sometimes. As long as nobody gets hurt, why not enjoy it?

As for if these are intrusive thoughts or not, well that's up to you. It they cause no harm to you or anyone else, I see no harm in them either.
 
K9Companion said:
Not a therapist, but it doesn't sound horrible or unwanted to me. More like fear of what would happen if someone found out (which is very fair, depending on where you live that can be a real issue).
I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking these thoughts, and there's nothing wrong with you. The brain is just strange and does silly overthinking sometimes. As long as nobody gets hurt, why not enjoy it?

As for if these are intrusive thoughts or not, well that's up to you. It they cause no harm to you or anyone else, I see no harm in them either.
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well there must be a reason society shuns such thoughts right? even though to me I think animals can consent through body language. people say they can't, I've already been accused of being a zoophile by a friend, but I was in denial still about even having feelings like this.
 
dogmoss said:
well there must be a reason society shuns such thoughts right? even though to me I think animals can consent through body language. people say they can't, I've already been accused of being a zoophile by a friend, but I was in denial still about even having feelings like this.
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Hmm, that's a very complex topic and I only speak for my own opinion when I say this, but I feel like a lot of it is not "animals can't consent" and more like society saying "this is different and different is scary and I don't understand it. So I'm just going to say it's bad so I don't have to deal with it or think about it :mad:"
I am strongly of the opinion that animals absolutely can consent and are in fact capable of being autonomous beings that should be treated with love and respect (outrageous, I know /s).

I won't go off on a massive tangent (because nobody needs to read walls of text) but I honestly don't think society is quite 100% correct in this regard. I think, as always, that as long as nobody is hurt by something, who cares who does what with whom or what species.
And if society - or your friend, or whoever - doesn't like that? Well it's a good thing they're living their lives and your living yours. Nobody is hurt, it doesn't affect them, so why should their unaffected opinions influence your own?
 
K9Companion said:
Hmm, that's a very complex topic and I only speak for my own opinion when I say this, but I feel like a lot of it is not "animals can't consent" and more like society saying "this is different and different is scary and I don't understand it. So I'm just going to say it's bad so I don't have to deal with it or think about it :mad:"
I am strongly of the opinion that animals absolutely can consent and are in fact capable of being autonomous beings that should be treated with love and respect (outrageous, I know /s).

I won't go off on a massive tangent (because nobody needs to read walls of text) but I honestly don't think society is quite 100% correct in this regard. I think, as always, that as long as nobody is hurt by something, who cares who does what with whom or what species.
And if society - or your friend, or whoever - doesn't like that? Well it's a good thing they're living their lives and your living yours. Nobody is hurt, it doesn't affect them, so why should their unaffected opinions influence your own?
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I reluctantly really agree... I feel very conflicted about agreeing at all...
 
jackalz said:
I can relate to you worrying about feeling unsure if you should pursue attraction to animals, and then the anxiety of being “found out” as well.
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what has you stopping yourself?
I'm mostly conflicted of the morality of such a decision. Animals (specifically dogs) seem really smart to me, (edit: smarter than most people give credit) which is why I feel they might be able to consent. However I'm not an expert on dogs and their behavior so how am I supposed to know.
 
jackalz said:
hi! Just want to say im queer & trans and still have some anxiety around being on this website also. I’m happy to talk to you sometime if only to be a kindred spirit.
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would love to follow you or DM when I can but you limit who can see your profile
 
roseshose said:
It is best not to talk about things like this with an outside therapist. In many areas, even mentioning a curiousity about these things may be a red flag, especially in places where laws are strict. You have good advice here.
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I kind of disagree with this. it can be VERY very hard to find a good therapist, and absolutely it depends on your locations’ laws, but only talking about your feelings around the topic and not about actions is not going to get you in trouble most places, though you may have to try multiple different therapists to find a really helpful / good one. but as useful as connections on sites like these can be, they’re quite insular, and few if any of us here are professionally trained to handle emotional crises. I don’t think isolating oneself to internet based connections is a very good idea, you just have to be careful out there.
 
roseshose said:
I actually agree with you.

My point is that if the person is in certain places, such as North Carolina (I don't live there), and you talk about certain things, they could become a legal complication.

I understand that therapists should maintain confidentiality. I also understand that if you had a therapist and talked about something that could be a felony or abuse law, there may have to say something.
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as far as I know in the state I live in they only report you if they suspect you of committing / that you committed abuse. which I am not doing. I don't even own a dog... yet...
 
dogmoss said:
coming to terms with the fact I find dogs sexually attractive... however I'm still not sure I should indulge such urges. I feel this might be caused by trauma when I was young or something. I messed around with the family dog a lot when I was young and have always been curious of the porn off and on. I'm very confused and need to talk about these feelings more. So if you'd like to talk I'd appreciate it.
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Welcome to the family hun this is an amazing community that will give you the support and education on the subjects of interest their are plenty of ppl here that will be there for you just let me know if you have any question or need help im on the same road of discovery into my interest of the zoophile lifestyle so im a kindred spirit ive been attracted to dogs all my life its been who i am i just recently accepted my feelings and with my husbands support we found this wonderful helpful and very accepting community to go about exploring my feelings and interest and educating ourselves with all the resources that are available to us through this wonderful community
 
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dogmoss said:
well there must be a reason society shuns such thoughts right? even though to me I think animals can consent through body language. people say they can't, I've already been accused of being a zoophile by a friend, but I was in denial still about even having feelings like this.
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Welcome here. It is very common for zoophiles to have conflicting feelings, or to be unhappy with themselves because of the ways in which society looks down on us. I have been struggling with these feelings for over a decade, and then stumbled onto the ZETA rules, which made it easier for me to find peace in my attractions:
  • Bestow upon animals the same kindness one would wish bestowed upon oneself
  • Consider the well-being of an animal companion as important as ones own.
  • Place the animal’s will and well-being ahead of one’s desires for sexual gratification.
  • Teach those who seek knowledge about zoophilia and bestiality without promoting it.
  • Discourage the practice of bestiality in the presence of fetish seekers.
  • Censure sexual exploitation of animals for the purpose of financial gain.
  • Censure those who practice and promote animal sexual abuse.
To cut a long story short, yes, society doesn't accept zoophiles, but conveniently forgets about its own double standards: suppose I would treat my nonhuman companion as animals are treated in the bio-industry, I would be locked up for animal abuse. So, society might claim their beef with zoophiles is because of welfare concerns, but I think there's something else at play there. Anyway, I hope that you get more at peace with who you are and what you find attractive.
 
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