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Feeling of guilt

BitchPussyislife said:
she think its pleasing to you. I believe thats why she initiates it. She wants to bond and please you...
So just follow your heart ONLY you can answer if its right for her because yo know her. When unsure its best to do nothing.
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I personally think it's simpler than that, it feels good, so she's interested in feeling good and is hoping OP might help her out with that.
I've seen bitches use bedding, furniture, other dogs, other animals, etc to get some stimulation.

That said it's important for us to use good judgement to reduce the risk of harm, to not shape bad behaviors which will get them in trouble, and to keep the dog's benefit in mind while we're trying to get some benefit ourselves. I don't see anything wrong with two organisms using one another for mutual pleasure so long as neither is harmed.

@stolendance , I think @Uppies has given you some of the best advice. I'd add that you should probably pick a particular space to only engage with her at so that she doesn't learn to ask for it with others or in their presence and end up getting punished for it. You need to make sure you're not harming her, but otherwise what the two of you decide to do together for mutual enjoyment isn't really anyhting to feel guilty of. I see no reason for shame in wanting to feel good, in wanting another to feel good, or in both of you making each other feel good. That she isn't "your dog" is potentially problematic, but I think so long as there's no harm and you aren't teaching her things that will get her in trouble (i.e. she doesn't learn to start grabbing legs and riding, which is almost certainly unwanted by others in the household) there's not a lot of ethical problems I see there and not much reason for guilt.
 
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Dogs like humans can and will give consent when they want something. Your bitch has decided that you are the one to give her relief when she WANTS it. She has come to you. Not the other way around. Your bitch wanted to be with you and for you to arouse her. If she did not want it (sex) she would have left. Bitches that don't want sex with other dogs will just sit down.

If she comes around for more simulation she will have chosen you. It is now up to you if you want for the "fun" stuff to continue, then you must give her consent.

No need for guilt, unless you feel ashamed of the event. Me, I would feel lucky that the bitch had chosen me. But I'm a zoo.
 
Uppies said:
I think a good place to start would be giving your friend her agency back. In two-legger sociality, some might say you coerced her. In the real world where two organisms are spending time together, you made an offer and your friend communicated that it was favorable and took you up on it. It's important to realize that human sociality is not the Actual World. Human sociality doesn't mean shit on the moon or when you're dying of heat stroke on the Gobi desert. Humans have this very solipsistic view that they are the only organisms with adult desires and needs, and I think a lot of anti sentiment stems from the idea that humans are somehow exceptional or that human objectives are more important than everyone else's. Step outside the pseudoimaginary world two-leggers mistake for reality and look again. You are an organism trying to live your life in the least unpleasant way possible, and so is she. The actions she chooses to take communicate pretty clearly what she finds pleasant. You gave that to her, and while you may (or may not) owe some guilt or shame to the other humans in your sphere, it sounds like you owe none to her.

Edit: I should clarify that I don't mean "do it more and don't worry about it". You are human and human social concerns are something you should weigh in deciding whether to continue with your friend or just stay friends without benefits. Neither I nor anyone here is really qualified to make that decision for you. I just mean that you have permission to not feel guilty to her specifically, and since this occurred in private between you and her, she is the only one you owe a duty of care to and you seem to have met that duty.

If you feel it most prudent to not continue, remember that many intimate friendships do not have a sexual element and are still entirely rewarding and supportive. This is possible regardless of the number of legs your friend has.
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Well put. Once you start to understand that animals are very emotionally complex just like us, have different modes of communication, and that you as a person have so many biases (humans are intrinsicly narcissistic thinking that we're the most important species on the planet), it becomes much much easier in being able to communicate with animals.

For example, I'm taking care of my parents and they have 2 dogs. I'm not really attracted sexually to them, but they're much friendlier to me than my parents because I know that they're looking for moments of genuine gentleness. they've had these dogs for years before I got to meet them, but they approach me, jump on the bed to wake me up, and even smile. Learning how to communicate is incredibly important, and she humped your hand because she felt something, and most importantly she approached you. The guilt is a social and religions byproduct only experienced by us.
 
Your first k9 experience was there any guilt that came with it?

I know my first time I felt really guilty BUT at the same time, I LOVED it. I just want to know if others felt the same.
 
I don't think I had any guilt my first time. I was always an animal person growing up. Always felt more comfortable around them more than people. I didn't have my first experience until my late teens with the guidance from a like minded friend. I guess it was that extra connection I was wanting to have.
 
FlareFanatic said:
I don't think I had any guilt my first time. I was always an animal person growing up. Always felt more comfortable around them more than people. I didn't have my first experience until my late teens with the guidance from a like minded friend. I guess it was that extra connection I was wanting to have.
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Oh don't get me wrong, animals played a huge role in my family home. We all love animals! Okay not like me now lol. I guess growing up with bible scripture stating " man shalt lie with beast " was always at the back of my head. Now I have NO guilt.
 
If you take only my "adult and full experience", no guilt. Before that, I was attracted, but it was like "damn I can't understand what's turning me on, is it something bad?" But my first adult experience was a good time so I'm feeling more in a "passionate and loving mood" if I'm thinking about it. Maybe a bit horny also? Heh.
 
Yesterday, I had intercourse with an animal for the first time in my life. It was my 2 year old german sheperd. It all went find, and she did not give any signs that she was not willing to do it, she seemed to enjoy it. However, since that happened I've been feeling quite guilty about it. I have no idea why, did anybody feel the same? Can I do something about it? I am sorry if my english is not the best, but it's not my native language. That's all.
 
duting54 said:
Yesterday, I had intercourse with an animal for the first time in my life. It was my 2 year old german sheperd. It all went find, and she did not give any signs that she was not willing to do it, she seemed to enjoy it. However, since that happened I've been feeling quite guilty about it. I have no idea why, did anybody feel the same? Can I do something about it? I am sorry if my english is not the best, but it's not my native language. That's all.
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I think the guilt thing happens to everyone their first time, but if she didn't object to it and seemed to enjoy it I wouldn't feel guilty about it if I were you, as long as both you and your furry love had a good time, just let the guilt wash away. You probably are feeling guilt because it is a taboo to have sex with animals....but again if she didn't object to you fucking her I wouldn't let it bother you too much. I hope you enjoyed having sex with your girl though

And just to add if you want to chat or be friends feel free to message me on here to chat about zoo stuff ?
 
I want to second what Rocthorne has said, you've done nothing wrong!
You were both willing, you both consented, and both seem to have enjoyed it. Sometimes our brains get a little strange and can make us feel odd things, but just know that you have a great community here to talk with and help you through this confusion. Keep your chin up and take things slowly, everything will work itself out in the end ❤️
 
K9Companion said:
I want to second what Rocthorne has said, you've done nothing wrong!
You were both willing, you both consented, and both seem to have enjoyed it. Sometimes our brains get a little strange and can make us feel odd things, but just know that you have a great community here to talk with and help you through this confusion. Keep your chin up and take things slowly, everything will work itself out in the end ❤️
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Hey, I would like to know some stuff, first of all...I didn't really know that animals could consent, how do they show that?
 
Blossom_Ruby said:
Hey, I would like to know some stuff, first of all...I didn't really know that animals could consent, how do they show that?
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I can say how the stallion I was with consented it was his idea lol. I came over to meet him the second I start analyzing his tool he drops and starts Nikering at me. I ended up blowing him the first time we met he had no complaints didn’t move away he loved the attention.

After that when ever I’d come over no matter how far away he’d come running naying and drop so I could blow him.

He also with no input of my own mounted me jumped up cock out and started thrusting was able to get him between my thighs he blow his load nayd a few times then left lol.

To summarize the second he understood why I was near him he started everything he wanted the bj he mounted me just out of the blue im in his pen turn around a boom on me.
 
marelover999 said:
I can say how the stallion I was with consented it was his idea lol. I came over to meet him the second I start analyzing his tool he drops and starts Nikering at me. I ended up blowing him the first time we met he had no complaints didn’t move away he loved the attention.

After that when ever I’d come over no matter how far away he’d come running naying and drop so I could blow him.

He also with no input of my own mounted me jumped up cock out and started thrusting was able to get him between my thighs he blow his load nayd a few times then left lol.

To summarize the second he understood why I was near him he started everything he wanted the bj he mounted me just out of the blue im in his pen turn around a boom on me.
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Wow, that's actually super hot hehe...what does nickering mean? Is a zoo-term or something else?

I really hope to feel that someday, although I've read that there are lots of rules that I have to follow, consent being the most important, I still need to learn a lot, but I cant try... I still libe with my parents and getting a bigger Pet to try (for example, a dog, a big breed dog) Will be pretty complicated...I just want to try one time and then figure out if I like it or not, I'm super curious rn
 
Blossom_Ruby said:
Wow, that's actually super hot hehe...what does nickering mean? Is a zoo-term or something else?

I really hope to feel that someday, although I've read that there are lots of rules that I have to follow, consent being the most important, I still need to learn a lot, but I cant try... I still libe with my parents and getting a bigger Pet to try (for example, a dog, a big breed dog) Will be pretty complicated...I just want to try one time and then figure out if I like it or not, I'm super curious rn
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nickering Just means horse noises he’d make small noises and clicks at me.

And if if u want to know if you like it try asking yourself why u might like it. I was ok with it intill I met with my first stallion just the way he was everything just clicked with me I was meant to be his and that was that.

Why do u want to try do u like a certain animal a lot do u just get along better with them if you could spend ur life with them as one would u be ok with it?

If I was a mare in my stallions herd for the rest my life eating grass and running through the fields I love every minute of it.❤️
 
marelover999 said:
nickering Just means horse noises he’d make small noises and clicks at me.

And if if u want to know if you like it try asking yourself why u might like it. I was ok with it intill I met with my first stallion just the way he was everything just clicked with me I was meant to be his and that was that.

Why do u want to try do u like a certain animal a lot do u just get along better with them if you could spend ur life with them as one would u be ok with it?

If I was a mare in my stallions herd for the rest my life eating grass and running through the fields I love every minute of it.❤️
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Would you be ok with me like...talking with you in DM's? I want to talk to you
 
Blossom_Ruby said:
Hey, I would like to know some stuff, first of all...I didn't really know that animals could consent, how do they show that?
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I would add to what others have said about consent..

We all will say to allow them to say "no", no questions asked.

I feel this is actually the most important because in allowing them to say "no", they can and do indeed learn that saying "no" is an option.

I've found that when they figure that out, that it changes the whole relationship for the better, and mine have gotten much more interactive as a result.

Likewise, you should also say no at times, especially if you say no, and they don't take it as an answer.

It's about building mutual respect.

I'm at a point with my boy, that I can just give him "that look", and he'll practically rip my clothes off..

He'll also "ask", and has learned to not be so up front in front of other people, although he does seem to send hints when others around, which I like, because it's like we have our own little secret conversation going on right in front of people about what we're going to do as soon as we can be in private..
 
K_9River_rat said:
I would add to what others have said about consent..

We all will say to allow them to say "no", no questions asked.

I feel this is actually the most important because in allowing them to say "no", they can and do indeed learn that saying "no" is an option.

I've found that when they figure that out, that it changes the whole relationship for the better, and mine have gotten much more interactive as a result.

Likewise, you should also say no at times, especially if you say no, and they don't take it as an answer.

It's about building mutual respect.

I'm at a point with my boy, that I can just give him "that look", and he'll practically rip my clothes off..

He'll also "ask", and has learned to not be so up front in front of other people, although he does seem to send hints when others around, which I like, because it's like we have our own little secret conversation going on right in front of people about what we're going to do as soon as we can be in private..
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There is a lot I have to ask, would you mind if I open a DM so you can explain me with more detail and if I could ask more, I'm actually intrigued about this topic now ^^'
 
Blossom_Ruby said:
There is a lot I have to ask, would you mind if I open a DM so you can explain me with more detail and if I could ask more, I'm actually intrigued about this topic now ^^'
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Or here, or start a separate thread, as I'd actually rather share what I know publicly as I believe it's stuff that could benefit anyone.
 
K_9River_rat said:
I would add to what others have said about consent..

We all will say to allow them to say "no", no questions asked.

I feel this is actually the most important because in allowing them to say "no", they can and do indeed learn that saying "no" is an option.

I've found that when they figure that out, that it changes the whole relationship for the better, and mine have gotten much more interactive as a result.

Likewise, you should also say no at times, especially if you say no, and they don't take it as an answer.

It's about building mutual respect.

I'm at a point with my boy, that I can just give him "that look", and he'll practically rip my clothes off..

He'll also "ask", and has learned to not be so up front in front of other people, although he does seem to send hints when others around, which I like, because it's like we have our own little secret conversation going on right in front of people about what we're going to do as soon as we can be in private..
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Ha ha, that is bad, are you sure others can't tell what's going on?
 
danie.leigh said:
Ha ha, that is bad, are you sure others can't tell what's going on?
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Oh yeah, because it wouldn't appear sexual to any onlookers..

Most people don't know that a dog or other animal is sending sexual vibes and just assume the dog or whatever is just being a dog.. Until the dog is humping their leg.. And they assume that it went sexual at the humping part, when in reality, for the animal, it was sexual way before then..

It takes time, but the reality is that nearly all animals communicate mostly with body language, and most people of course do know that, but at the same time don't understand the body language.

Maybe because they're trying to equate a certain look, stance, head cock, or whatever as a verbal sentence or something when what it really is, is more than that. Sometimes one simple look that takes one second would take an entire paragraph to translate.

Other times, it can be something very simple..

Like a dog walking away, then stops to look over their shoulder at you.. Usually that means they're wanting you to follow them, or that they want to go somewhere and want you to go with them...
 
K_9River_rat said:
Oh yeah, because it wouldn't appear sexual to any onlookers..

Most people don't know that a dog or other animal is sending sexual vibes and just assume the dog or whatever is just being a dog.. Until the dog is humping their leg.. And they assume that it went sexual at the humping part, when in reality, for the animal, it was sexual way before then..

It takes time, but the reality is that nearly all animals communicate mostly with body language, and most people of course do know that, but at the same time don't understand the body language.

Maybe because they're trying to equate a certain look, stance, head cock, or whatever as a verbal sentence or something when what it really is, is more than that. Sometimes one simple look that takes one second would take an entire paragraph to translate.

Other times, it can be something very simple..

Like a dog walking away, then stops to look over their shoulder at you.. Usually that means they're wanting you to follow them, or that they want to go somewhere and want you to go with them...
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Oh I see I mean I guess that makes sense.
 
danie.leigh said:
Oh I see I mean I guess that makes sense.
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They really are much smarter than what most people give them credit for..

All too often, people try to put animals into a "box", as in just assuming that they can't possibly understand this or that, and make otherwise generalized assumptions that aren't true at all..

All of that is bolstered by the fact that if you just treat them right, that many are happy to fall into the "pet" role..

Which I think some are better at that, and other more intelligent ones do better when they're treated as an equal.
 
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