ZV needed a cleanse

[lunchladylove]

I really appreciate all the hard work you’re doing here!

 

[CdB]

... you're sure treating them as an e-mail conversation with your "Hello," and "Kind regards".

Hi,

once again, you confirm that you are not really familiar with internet forums and the etiquette and manners that are customary there. Your quote from me in your last post proves this impressively. Forums etiquette includes greeting and saying goodbye in posts. There are forums where it is pointed out during registration that a certain level of politeness in the form of greetings and farewells must be observed. But even if this is not mentioned, too much politeness is always better than too little.

As another user has already pointed out, you are trying to twist other people's words. I might add that you are trying to conceal your refutation by claiming, without evidence, that I am wrong or simply trying to distract. The fact is that post archiving has always been a part of communication platforms. You don't want to admit this in order to justify your original post about deleting posts. But that doesn't change the actual facts.

Greetings
CdB

 

[Flµff]

Hello to everyone here,

With the time, youngsters tends to shorten the messages they emit.
As an old crap, I am so happy to find someone that can make a fulll sentence, with more than 8 words and add a correct ponctuation. However I have to admit that, over decades, etiquette can evolve. Language evolves with current customs. Hence the code changes.

I miss the 56K modem sound, but I don't listen to it every morning.

Please feel free to twist my words,

 

[CdB]

Hi Flµff,
in fact, there is little that does not change. It always depends on the context. If people know each other well, these polite phrases tend to be omitted, or if communication takes on more of a chat-like character.
Greetings
CdB

 

[Bloit]

once again, you confirm that

This habit of yours, to state an opinion of yours as if it's a fact, is disingenuous and frankly, insulting everyone's intelligence.

you are not really familiar with internet forums and the etiquette and manners that are customary there. Your quote from me in your last post proves this impressively.

At some point I have to wonder whether you're actually just trolling here. You can't be that oblivious.

Forums etiquette includes greeting and saying goodbye in posts.

Lol, no. That's far from the standard.

There are forums where it is pointed out during registration that a certain level of politeness in the form of greetings and farewells must be observed.

Then those are rules specific to THAT forum. That's nowhere close to being universal.

But even if this is not mentioned, too much politeness is always better than too little.

No, it can come off as if you're talking down to someone. A superiority complex. Read the room.

As another user has already pointed out, you are trying to twist other people's words.

Pot calling the kettle black.
What user? Because I'm pretty sure you must've misinterpreted something there.

I might add that you are trying to conceal your refutation by claiming, without evidence, that I am wrong or simply trying to distract.

You're the one barging into this with a fucked up definition of what a forum is.
Archival has never been the PRIMARY purpose of forums.

The fact is that post archiving has always been a part of communication platforms.

Another blanket statement that can easily be proven wrong. There are so many communication platforms, even today, heck ESPECIALLY today, that deliberately do not store communication history.

You don't want to admit this in order to justify your original post about deleting posts. But that doesn't change the actual facts.

You need to be more careful and deliberate with your terminology, because it's way too easy to poke holes in your logic.

correct ponctuation

Flµff, please tell me this was deliberate xD

 

[Flµff]

It always depends on the context.

chat-like character

That's true. Users are here easily unformal on this forum.

Most of us shares a very unusual condition. They are still orders in my countries. When an architect meets an an architect, a layer meets a layer, if they are not at work, it becomes formal very very quickly. That may be the same thing here. I wonder if there's a "out of society effect" over it. We are rules breakers. So we would ease the communication rules too.

I have been on other forums that share professional grade information. Let's say metrology. It is not about chatting. You ask a question, you get answers that can be dissussed. Chat elsewere.

That's not the case on this forum. I am here to get info of course but moreover I am here because we are a community that can not chat easily. I beleive that chating on a public place -a forum- is meaningfull when you are stigmatised and opressed. It is even a political gesture to show we are not asocial. (Please pee a bit on the dumpster fire)

I couldn't find any expectation from the mods on how we are suposed to communicate.
I have the feeling this is just a place because we do not have one. Mods are here to deal with ethical borders.
Cleaning is a hot topic because it involves undiscussed indirect questions such as purposes, means, leaders, structures.
Socio-institutional stuff.

I always wonder if I do to much digression but I feel like it is always better than total stupidities from lurkers.

I would happy to have a quick feedback on this from the mods.

 

[Flµff]

Flµff, please tell me this was deliberate xD

Ouch.
I am rather young afterall so I put unnecessary comas and "l"

 

[Blacksoul]

Hello,

that misses the point. Bulletin board systems were not forums, but their precursors. And they did not use global access like the Internet, but point-to-point access via telephone modems. They only had a local network structure, in contrast to the global networked platform of the Internet. But even there, long-term archiving already existed, albeit in a limited form. Perhaps the most important BBS was CBBS in 1978, but it was a forerunner, not an Internet forum in the strict sense.
Conclusion: BBSs were not Internet forums, but they fulfilled many of the social and functional roles that forums later took on on the Internet. So they are ancestors, but not equivalent counterparts.

The Planet Forum was, strictly speaking, a computer conference system or community system. It was network-based, but did not use the Internet, instead using decentralised academic networks.

EIES was a non-public computer conference system that ran on distributed networks and is considered another precursor to Internet forums.

Usenet was conceived in 1979, but did not actually launch until 1980.

Regarding the core question at hand, all of these precursors, like modern Internet forums, also had an archiving function. The conclusion is that there has never been an Internet forum without an archiving function; this has been an important basic function from the very beginning.

Kind regards
CdB

A bulletin board is essentially the same as a forum. Both terms refer to an online platform where users can engage in discussions and exchange information. They are often used interchangeably, although “bulletin board” is historically the older term and tends to refer to a simple, text-based form of online communication, while “forum” sounds more modern and is often associated with additional features and a more structured user interface.

 

[pes]

I have created a special new thread

https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/women-show-us.119133/

It's intended purpose is to concentrate all threads with random women pics people post in unnecessarily fragmented threads or threads directly starting with 'women show us'.
I would make one in the men section too. But there are 10 women show us threads to 1 men show us, so it would see much less use.
That will not only eventually create our own copy of "google find pics of vaginas" but also make the section less cluttered.
So if you see one that fits in there, merge the threads.

 

[MashaSobaka]

https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/women-show-us.119133/

Oh my god, there are cavemen in that pussy.

 

[CdB]

Hi Bloit,

first of all, I'm sorry. Regarding the reversal of words, I confused you with darkwolf in the quote. He was referring to dogluver101 when he mentioned the deliberate misinterpretation of his words. I apologise.

However, you are mistaken about what I reported about the various forums and precursors; those were not opinions. As is my custom, such statements are always carefully researched and verifiable.

As for the standard of polite phrases in forums, I am used to this from a good 200 forums, even today. How many forums did your statement about the standard refer to?

If you find polite forms of address ‘condescending’, you should perhaps recalibrate your radar. Such polite forms of address are part of mutual respect and normal forms of communication – and you can't go wrong with them among strangers.

Yes, the primary task of forums has always been archiving. That is precisely what makes forums special, due to asynchronous communication. If the posts were not archived, no communication would be possible. Even if a post is only archived for one day in order to receive a reply, this is still archiving. In forums with few visitors, posts are often archived for much longer before a reply is received. And most forum operators know that even old topics will always find readers.

So far, we have only talked about forums. If you want to extend this to communication platforms, no problem. The archiving issue can be dealt with quickly. No one has ever claimed that every one of these platforms archives posts.

You can twist and turn it any way you want, but you can't escape the trap you've set for yourself. At the moment, it doesn't look like you're going to succeed in finding holes in my logic.

Greetings
CdB

 

[Bloit]

Hi Bloit,

Forum etiquette: If you reply to someone, actually @tag them: @CdB, or reply to their posts so they get an actual notification.

first of all, I'm sorry. Regarding the reversal of words, I confused you with darkwolf in the quote. He was referring to dogluver101 when he mentioned the deliberate misinterpretation of his words. I apologise.

As I said before, you need to be more careful with what you say.

However, you are mistaken about what I reported about the various forums and precursors; those were not opinions. As is my custom, such statements are always carefully researched and verifiable.

And easily proven wrong.

As for the standard of polite phrases in forums, I am used to this from a good 200 forums, even today. How many forums did your statement about the standard refer to?

This is not a competition of how many forums we used. Who the hell is even keeping track?
If anything, this proves that you're old and stuck in your own little world.

If you find polite forms of address ‘condescending’, you should perhaps recalibrate your radar. Such polite forms of address are part of mutual respect and normal forms of communication – and you can't go wrong with them among strangers.

Again, read the room.

Yes, the primary task of forums has always been archiving. That is precisely what makes forums special, due to asynchronous communication. If the posts were not archived, no communication would be possible. Even if a post is only archived for one day in order to receive a reply, this is still archiving. In forums with few visitors, posts are often archived for much longer before a reply is received. And most forum operators know that even old topics will always find readers.

Dude, no. What you call "archiving" was a means to an end, with the end goal being to facilitate communication.
By your logic, the primary purpose of written letters being sent across the world, is archival of that message.
It's not. It's to SEND SOMEONE SAID MESSAGE.
Your pedantic over-analysis of this point is incredibly tedious.

So far, we have only talked about forums. If you want to extend this to communication platforms, no problem.

YOU switched over to "Communication platforms", because YOU were sloppy with your choice of words.

The archiving issue can be dealt with quickly. No one has ever claimed that every one of these platforms archives posts.

Yet YOU claim that that's a forum's PRIMARY FUNCTION, which it isn't.

You can twist and turn it any way you want, but you can't escape the trap you've set for yourself. At the moment, it doesn't look like you're going to succeed in finding holes in my logic.

You're hilarious.
You write walls upon walls of text filled with gaping holes in logic. You throw around the numbers of forums you've used as if that somehow makes you more of an "expert" on forums.
Absolutely laughable.

 

[allyfitz]

Forums etiquette includes greeting and saying goodbye in posts.

Lol, no. That's far from the standard.

What forums has this dude been a part of?

 

[Bloit]

What forums has this dude been a part of?
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Probably some old as fuck forums where they were still figuring out the difference between a forum post, an email, and a handwritten letter sealed with wax and a signet ring.

 

[offgridk9lover2]

Probably some old as fuck forums where they were still figuring out the difference between a forum post, an email, and a handwritten letter sealed with wax and a signet ring.

Hey, don't knock it till ya tried it! Fun imagining their faces when they receive it! 50/50 bees wax n candle wax worked the best!

 

[Bloit]

Hey, don't knock it till ya tried it! Fun imagining their faces when they receive it! 50/50 bees wax n candle wax worked the best!

Even more fun to see if they can decypher my handwriting

 

[offgridk9lover2]

Even more fun to see if they can decypher my handwriting

people tell me I was meant to be a doctor, as I scribble in engineer

 

[CdB]

Hi Boit,

you keep talking about being ‘proven wrong’ and that archiving is not a core function of forums. But you are just repeating disproved arguments instead of finally providing verifiable examples. My examples are documented and verifiable, either via search engine or AI.

If archiving is not a core function of forums, why do all forums do it? Then there should also be some that do not archive.

Only you can understand what similarities a letter, which has exactly one recipient, is supposed to have with a forum.

Greetings
CdB

 

[pes]

Is this even relevant here? It is done, it is not coming back.

 

[CdB]

Hi pes,
I would be delighted if new information did come to light, but we can happily draw a line under this matter. I should finally get back to my zoo blog.
Cheers
CdB

 

[Dogdaddy69]

Even more fun to see if they can decypher my handwriting

Hi Boit,

you keep talking about being ‘proven wrong’ and that archiving is not a core function of forums. But you are just repeating disproved arguments instead of finally providing verifiable examples. My examples are documented and verifiable, either via search engine or AI.

If archiving is not a core function of forums, why do all forums do it? Then there should also be some that do not archive.

Only you can understand what similarities a letter, which has exactly one recipient, is supposed to have with a forum.

Greetings
CdB

Just thought I would point out........none of the rest of us cares. We're fucking BORED reading this love fest, take it to DMs for chrissakes.

 

[Bloit]

a core function

Now you're moving goalposts.
We were talking about a forum's primary function, not about a core function.

There's a difference, but as usual, you're not precise in your choice of words.

 

[Jarjaxle23]

There were more than 4 threads last time I was on

 

[MexKing92]

yeah seriously

 

[Coles]

So I never actually provided announcements on this. They usually just happen to be who ever asks first, or if someone sees it mentioned.

Today, personals needed to be cleaned, including non zoo sections. I was nice and left a few.
Certain posts in some non-zoo porn sections were ripe with fakes and started to be come our main focus on modding.
This was intended to be a zoo forum. In fact, a better zoo forum than BF. But from some talk I've had in the past with others, this site was of course, being another BF.

I guess better late than never on this clean up. This may actually start to be an official process for now on.
Tons of personals were cleared, including much older ones. People responding to posts from 2022, and that user has never logged in since 2023.
Introductions were cleared.
Introductions is for saying you're new to the site, not for personal hook ups.

This site is not a dating site; Various users kept suggesting we have verification's; We are not a dating site. This is a zoophila site. Its focal point should be on zoo.


Please ensure you see the rules and report anything you see that may be in violation of the rules.

Hi, could you please restore the 2025 roll call in the Australia section of the personals forum? There are a few very old posts that seemed to have been missed in your purge too.

 

[Blacksoul]

All this whining, please give me back this post... You're acting like your lives depend on it. Guys, make a new post if it was that important and just accept our mods' decision.

 

[pes]

From the reaction here I think next time it 1. should be announced a few days in advance and 2. once it is done, it is done. No debate.

 

[Mare Lover 1975]

I still want to know where all these supposedly important discussions were, other than the personals and meetups ads section I've yet to see a single one that has been deleted.

 

[alax_alex]

Hello!
Was Turkey-related thread in Personal Ads deleted with some others? I planned to post there, but can't found it anymore

update:
oh, I see, makes sense now.

 

[nekdoneco123]

From the reaction here I think next time it 1. should be announced a few days in advance and 2. once it is done, it is done. No debate.

or maybe, just spitballing here, don't nuke random shit for shits and giggles? not like it really accomplished anything.

i'm still wondering what besides foreign language stuff and personals and "roll calls" got nuked. i didn't post in any of these places (besides maybe 5 replies in the czech section), but i had to lose those 1-2k posts somewhere, not like i can go search for it. it's what gives the "it was pretty much random" impression.