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Why is there so little quality content?

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fefafool

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I am trying to consume zoo content now for quite some time. And I am very annoyed that almost exclusively the videos are small, badly filmed and just not nice to watch.
I have to admit that I myself work in media and as a person that works a lot with cameras, my standards for visual content is quite high. But still, do you enjoy most of the content?
I guess a reason why the quality is mostly not that good is, because this scene is obviously very small and closed. Its not so likely to have skilled people filming.

Do I have to do it? Does anyone need help? :D
 
Most of the content are reposts of reposts of decades old porn. Nowadays we are in an age where the average person has no idea how technology works. So current uploads are screen recordings of decades old porn which are 10x larger files for absolutely no reason.

Zoo porn is hard to make and almost absolutely not rewarding.
You make porn, it is immediately stolen and reposted everywhere and eventually ends up on crap porn sites served next to animal abuse.
If you are a woman, the moment you post porn, you are a target for a zombie horde of stalkers.

Start treating people making your porn with respect and you might see more of it.
 
It is a fair question and as someone who works in media, you have an appreciation for how difficult it is to light a scene properly and to film from appropriate angles, especially with respect to lighting. Most people are doing this sort of thing in the spur of the moment and don't realize that what their eyes see is not how the camera will capture in the moment.

Also, lets not forget that the activities being filmed are illegal in most of the world and most people are not skilled at editing enough to ensure their safety so this results in shots that are too close, too dark, and poorly framed.

I would challenge you to refresh your perspective and be grateful that some of thought enough about the community to want to share their intimate moments with it. Enjoy that the act is happening and that you have some glimpse behind closed doors.

Also, there are some really talented amateurs that have made and shared content here and the contrast in quality really makes their material stand out.

You may find on opportunity to respectfully share your skills and contribute to the enrichment of the site once you have been around a bit and established yourself as a good person.
 
Easy to say until you've tried. As a horny youngster I also had grand aspirations of making hundreds of grade A zoo pornos but when it comes to it, you realise it's not as easy as it looks. You have to be careful to protect you and your animal's safety and anonymity all the while trying to please a (mostly) very ungrateful audience.

As someone that's made a fair amount of ameteur content it's proven to be risky, time-consuming and mostly unrewarding. What is the point in putting in the effort required to make content when all you get is pervy fetishist comments and seeing your stuff getting plastered across the plethora of cheap pirate sites? I'll keep my sex life private or share with other genuine zoos rather than cheapening something sacred by sharing it with the world.

Don't get me wrong, I love sharing my experiences with other zoos. Love being able to inspire others and will continue to make content as and when I feel like it. It's just for me personally, the pros often don't outweigh the cons.
 
Well said!
ZephyrZoo said:
Easy to say until you've tried. As a horny youngster I also had grand aspirations of making hundreds of grade A zoo pornos but when it comes to it, you realise it's not as easy as it looks. You have to be careful to protect you and your animal's safety and anonymity all the while trying to please a (mostly) very ungrateful audience.

As someone that's made a fair amount of ameteur content it's proven to be risky, time-consuming and mostly unrewarding. What is the point in putting in the effort required to make content when all you get is pervy fetishist comments and seeing your stuff getting plastered across the plethora of cheap pirate sites? I'll keep my sex life private or share with other genuine zoos rather than cheapening something sacred by sharing it with the world.

Don't get me wrong, I love sharing my experiences with other zoos. Love being able to inspire others and will continue to make content as and when I feel like it. It's just for me personally, the pros often don't outweigh the cons.
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This! Well said.
 
Add to everything that's been said, a partner thats completly oblivious to the camera and doesn't care about if he stays in the frame of a fixed camera, or blocks the view, light or what not.

Then for those that are active, not many have(or are interested) in a human partner I suspect. Not many are interested in filming it. And those that are(occasionally) willing to film it, probably most are not interested in having someone else there to do the camera work.
 
fefafool said:
I am trying to consume zoo content now for quite some time. And I am very annoyed that almost exclusively the videos are small, badly filmed and just not nice to watch.
I have to admit that I myself work in media and as a person that works a lot with cameras, my standards for visual content is quite high. But still, do you enjoy most of the content?
I guess a reason why the quality is mostly not that good is, because this scene is obviously very small and closed. Its not so likely to have skilled people filming.

Do I have to do it? Does anyone need help? :D
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It takes time and effort to make a good quality video. To be really good quality it should be multiple cameras, 4k video minimum. There is an investment by the creator in purchasing the equipment and software needed to edit the videos. The way the creators recoup some of that is by selling content.

The power that be here will ban anyone selling content. Their belief is that everyone selling content is a scammer, which is not true. They feel that the creator should post it for free. They say that the creator can ask for "donations" but in reality that is giving away their content.
 
Usually they are filming themselves so it's hard to multitask while screwing. Most videos are from many years ago and have been cut up and edited by multiple people and re-posted.
 
Sumpup said:
Usually they are filming themselves so it's hard to multitask while screwing. Most videos are from many years ago and have been cut up and edited by multiple people and re-posted.
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Yeah, every vid I have posted has been from a front camera on a phone/tablet leaned up against a wall/couch/etc. and usually a side profile. It's not easy filming yourself and I've given up sharing. As everyone has said, there's practically no pros and a ton of cons. Sorry if 30fps in UHD isn't good enough for you. Go watch some 480p files that have been uploaded/downloaded 3K times. I've made better quality newer vids but I'm done sharing outside a few people I trust.
 
pes said:
Most of the content are reposts of reposts of decades old porn. Nowadays we are in an age where the average person has no idea how technology works. So current uploads are screen recordings of decades old porn which are 10x larger files for absolutely no reason.

Zoo porn is hard to make and almost absolutely not rewarding.
You make porn, it is immediately stolen and reposted everywhere and eventually ends up on crap porn sites served next to animal abuse.
If you are a woman, the moment you post porn, you are a target for a zombie horde of stalkers.

Start treating people making your porn with respect and you might see more of it.
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you hit the nail on the head there most stuff is reposts not very much new stuff out there like some of the posts on here out dated but because other leave comments it reappears as new but is not.
 
fefafool said:
I am trying to consume zoo content now for quite some time. And I am very annoyed that almost exclusively the videos are small, badly filmed and just not nice to watch.
I have to admit that I myself work in media and as a person that works a lot with cameras, my standards for visual content is quite high. But still, do you enjoy most of the content?
I guess a reason why the quality is mostly not that good is, because this scene is obviously very small and closed. Its not so likely to have skilled people filming.

Do I have to do it? Does anyone need help? :D
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More Forums did exist in years past that often did have newcomers willing to create content and share it freely but the laws became more strict about sites related to this subject and many other taboo subjects! The websites began getting shutdown or they became hosted in countries that didn't have as strict of rules related to this subject

You also had men blackmailing/extorting female performers! They would reverse image search (as many still do when a female shares a photo on here) and try to pinpoint who the person was! If they got a hit they would bide their time until that person shared too much and begin demanding more! Demanding the performer become their girl! Demanding sexual favors or acts in exchange for their silence about the performers identity! It became far too risky to share homemade content and now most of that remains in private collections never to be seen by strangers eyes!

So the final answer to your question is that a combination of laws and POS people extorting and blackmailing female creators is to blame for the lack of new content to consume!
 
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pes said:
Most of the content are reposts of reposts of decades old porn. Nowadays we are in an age where the average person has no idea how technology works. So current uploads are screen recordings of decades old porn which are 10x larger files for absolutely no reason.

Zoo porn is hard to make and almost absolutely not rewarding.
You make porn, it is immediately stolen and reposted everywhere and eventually ends up on crap porn sites served next to animal abuse.
If you are a woman, the moment you post porn, you are a target for a zombie horde of stalkers.

Start treating people making your porn with respect and you might see more of it.
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So much... :confused:
 
Max Shepherd said:
I agree with all the above posts and also strive to make cool stuff. I don't know what you enjoy, but folks here seem to enjoy my films.




I think they check a lot of those boxes you mentioned, and yeah, it's difficult to plan and work all the aspects of a project.

Enjoy!

:gsd_happysmile: 💄 :gsd_love:
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Max, your content is amazing! Thanks for taking the time and effort to make it and share it!
 
Hey fellow people,
first I want to thank you all for taking your time and responding to my message so thoroughly and polite. I seem to have struck a nerve and as a newbie in the forum I didn't want to say something so divisive.
I am sorry, that my statement was phrased a bit bluntly and I definitely didn't want to insult anyone. I value everyone that makes the effort to create content and of course I am aware how stressfull it is to film when things are quickly happening. There is literally the saying in my business "Don't work with animals and <younger humans>!".
I think you understand my point and it is really interesting to read some of your comments and explainations regarding it.

Still, my original goal here was not to complain, but to also offer my help, but I definitely could have phrased that better.

Additionally I am very gratefull that you actually also offered counterexamples. Especially @Max Shepherd it's super cool, that you send some of your content and I want to compliment your style. It's amazing that you create such lovely things in such an aesthetic style!
 
Ironically, people bitching about quality, length, sound, etc is also a thing that slows people from posting new content sometimes. Internet tools think nothing at all about running their mouth about anything and that tends to cool enthusiasm to post content here too.

My own opinion is IF you actually paid for content, say whatever is on your mind. BUT, if its posted here at ZERO cost to you, too fucking bad, shut the fuck up and keep scrolling asshole.

Your 1st post sounded pretty similar, but you managed to clean it up a lot with your last post.

Just my 2 cents.
 
fefafool said:
I am trying to consume zoo content now for quite some time. And I am very annoyed that almost exclusively the videos are small, badly filmed and just not nice to watch.
I have to admit that I myself work in media and as a person that works a lot with cameras, my standards for visual content is quite high. But still, do you enjoy most of the content?
I guess a reason why the quality is mostly not that good is, because this scene is obviously very small and closed. Its not so likely to have skilled people filming.

Do I have to do it? Does anyone need help? :D
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Post #3,549 about why no new porn!!
Sorry to sound blunt.

1. People reshare the crap out of it.
2. They edit it down to the point of "Why the fuck did you waste bandwidth uploading that?"
3. People sell it to rip you off.
4. Oh, forgot, legal things.
5. Wanting BRAND NEW content everyday and not giving a crap how the other person or their animal feels. You only care how your dick feels. (Now go back to #1)
6. This is a discussion board that has porn. Which I usually just get rid of the old, 80s, meth users that can't feel anything unless they stuck a needle in their arm before filming
7. Commercial producers are usually using the same video but changing the title. Not sure how Art of Zoo got everything to be different but have the same dog, but Alison productions is literally just slap a new name on the video because idiots will still buy it. :ROFLMAO:
 
Personally, there is not alot of planning that goes into a mating for me, I might be feeding my girls, and be a bit horny, so we mate, and if I have my phone with me, I will lean it against something, and film it. Most of my vids are rubbish, the phone isnt set in the right place, or falls over, or its too dark, many different reasons. It also takes forever to load a movie onto here, because I use a proxy server, so very often I will cut out a huge chunk in the middle of the movie so that it appears that I enter her, fuck for a bit and cum, over in a couple of minutes, where in reality, a mating is over half an hour long, but the middle stuff doesnt look like much, feels awesome to me, but doesnt look like much.
 
sheepshagger69 said:
a mating is over half an hour long, but the middle stuff doesnt look like much, feels awesome to me, but doesnt look like much.
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+1
Absolutely!
Just being there, feeling it, is great but no action, judt looks boring in a video.
I get bored watching my OWN occasional recording, but at least I recall the feeling.
 
Hangonsloopy said:
En el pasado, existían más foros que a menudo atraían a nuevos usuarios dispuestos a crear contenido y compartirlo libremente, pero las leyes se volvieron más estrictas con respecto a los sitios relacionados con este tema y muchos otros temas tabú. Los sitios web comenzaron a cerrarse o se alojaron en países que no tenían reglas tan estrictas relacionadas con este tema.

¡También había hombres que chantajeaban o extorsionaban a las artistas femeninas! Hacían búsquedas inversas de imágenes (como muchos todavía hacen cuando una mujer comparte una foto aquí) e intentaban identificar quién era la persona. Si obtenían una respuesta, esperaban el momento oportuno hasta que esa persona compartiera demasiado y comenzaban a exigir más. ¡Exigían que la artista se convirtiera en su chica! ¡Exigían favores o actos sexuales a cambio de su silencio sobre la identidad de la artista! ¡Se volvió demasiado arriesgado compartir contenido casero y ahora la mayor parte de eso permanece en colecciones privadas para que nunca sea visto por ojos extraños!

Así que la respuesta final a tu pregunta es que una combinación de leyes y personas de mierda que extorsionan y chantajean a las creadoras son los culpables de la falta de contenido nuevo para consumir.
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La mejor manera de ver porno es buscar recopilaciones, no te aburres y lo ves todo
 
some people have said it but sometimes it's not the most theatrical affair hehehe
not to mention the social impacts if you get found out!!!! kinda life ruining and not really worth it imo. respect to people who do it though!
 
Miss Bambi said:
some people have said it but sometimes it's not the most theatrical affair hehehe
not to mention the social impacts if you get found out!!!! kinda life ruining and not really worth it imo. respect to people who do it though!
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Agree, I would like see more quality, in Tokyo its usual for girls to ask by agents in street if they want model (e.g. porn). never had someone ask do want to do some animal porn.
 
Sayu said:
Agree, I would like see more quality, in Tokyo its usual for girls to ask by agents in street if they want model (e.g. porn). never had someone ask do want to do some animal porn.
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I think the company that used to make Japanese animal porn is no longer in business. Either that or they've changed what they produce.
 
Miss Bambi said:
some people have said it but sometimes it's not the most theatrical affair hehehe
not to mention the social impacts if you get found out!!!! kinda life ruining and not really worth it imo. respect to people who do it though!
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I think the sigma really depends on the country. There doesn't seem to be much stigma attached in Japan. But then, I'm not Japanese and I don't live there.
 
The animated and AI renderings are quite good IMHO. I think this might just be a good thing. A world where any fetish is allowed provided its all CGI.
 
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