Suggestion: dildogging should not be allowed here

[CanisLupus]

Inspired by another thread, I have decided to also create this one. Dildogging is not pleasant to most dogs and can even be painful since their penis skin is too sensitive (especially if it is not moist enough). It (in majority of porn) basically is just using a dog's penis as a live dildo without caring about him and his feelings at all. In many cases, it even causes the penis skin and superficial capillaries to damage resulting in blood stains. I know that this was already discussed multiple times before, but let's please discuss its ban one more time. Thanks!

 

[dartel]

It's not explicitly banned, but 95% of the time it's removed because it's just one of a dozen other abuses in the same video.

 

[SaltyDog]

What, may I ask, is "dildogging"? I've never heard of this term before.

Sorry for my ignorance,
Salty Loves His Golden...

 

[hero0k]

I one hundred percent agree.

 

[JT Bullitt]

Inspired by another thread, I have decided to also create this one. Dildogging is not pleasant to most dogs and can even be painful since their penis skin is too sensitive (especially if it is not moist enough). It (in majority of porn) basically is just using a dog's penis as a live dildo without caring about him and his feelings at all. In many cases, it even causes the penis skin and superficial capillaries to damage resulting in blood stains. I know that this was already discussed multiple times before, but let's please discuss its ban one more time. Thanks!

Dildogging is the same as a blowjob, just with a different body part.

The same risks, the same effects, and you could even interchange the two in your post. To be consistent, if you ban dildogging, you must also ban blowjobs.

If done with care and not abusive (which is banned anyway), they are both good in my book.

 

[Zacin84]

Agreed

 

[dartel]

What, may I ask, is "dildogging"? I've never heard of this term before.

Sorry for my ignorance,
Salty Loves His Golden...

Dildo + dog. Using a dog dick like a dildo.

 

[A Firm Hand]

I've often wondered if it wasn't abusive. The dog seems to be indifferent at best. Seems like one of those things done for the camera.

 

[SaltyDog]

Dildogging is the same as a blowjob, just with a different body part.

The same risks, the same effects, and you could even interchange the two in your post. To be consistent, if you ban dildogging, you must also ban blowjobs.

If done with care and not abusive (which is banned anyway), they are both good in my book.

Dildo + dog. Using a dog dick like a dildo.

I've often wondered if it wasn't abusive. The dog seems to be indifferent at best. Seems like one of those things done for the camera.

This was my experience too, when I 1st was getting started in sex on the family farm, except I was trying to give hand jobs. So I either kept him in his sheath and JO'd him or only held him behind his knot when out of his sheath.

I tried looking up this term and didn't get very far... So thank you all for answering.

Salty Loves His Golden...

 

[CanisLupus]

Dildogging is the same as a blowjob, just with a different body part.

The same risks, the same effects, and you could even interchange the two in your post. To be consistent, if you ban dildogging, you must also ban blowjobs.

If done with care and not abusive (which is banned anyway), they are both good in my book.

How do you define a blowjob? Oral sex with a canine penis if done properly is very pleasant for the dog. Dildogging is the exact opposite. Canine penis skin is very sensitive and there is a very little chance that such thing could be pleasant and/or sexually stimulating for the dog. It seems to me that you are trying to defend a practice that is in 99% cases (or at least 99% of online porn) unpleasant to the dog and/or even abusive by trying to compare it to "oral sex done incorrectly" and using a logical fallacy to falsely point out that oral sex with dogs should be banned for the same reason as dildogging if dildogging gets banned...

 

[JT Bullitt]

How do you define a blowjob? Oral sex with a canine penis if done properly is very pleasant for the dog. Dildogging is the exact opposite. Canine penis skin is very sensitive and there is a very little chance that such thing could be pleasant and/or sexually stimulating for the dog. It seems to me that you are trying to defend a practice that is in 99% cases (or at least 99% of online porn) unpleasant to the dog and/or even abusive by trying to compare it to "oral sex done incorrectly" and using a logical fallacy to falsely point out that oral sex with dogs should be banned for the same reason as dildogging if dildogging gets banned...

You say I use a logical fallacy by saying 99% of dildogging is unpleasant without proof.

That would be a hasty generalization fallacy.

You also admit that "if done properly", oral sex can be pleasurable.

I said exactly the same thing.

Your argument is not based on logic, but emotion, and therefore is invalid.

 

[bumpkin]

I agree it should be banned. If a dog wants to have sex he will mount you. Forcing his penis into you is abuse.

 

[CanisLupus]

You say I use a logical fallacy by saying 99% of dildogging is unpleasant without proof.

That would be a hasty generalization fallacy.

You also admit that "if done properly", oral sex can be pleasurable.

I said exactly the same thing.

Your argument is not based on logic, but emotion, and therefore is invalid.

My argument is based on my presence in online zoo communities for last 20 years and also on my personal experience with dogs. Over my 20 years online presence, I have seen exactly zero proof showing that dildogging can actually be done in a pleasant way. On the other hand, I have seen plenty of crappy porn (before I turned it off in disgust every time) with dildogging that was clearly unpleasant for the dog (but he was forced to endure it). And because of my experience, I know how sensitive a dog penis is and how to properly stimulate dogs and more importantly what exactly is unpleasant for them.

 

[JT Bullitt]

My argument is based on my presence in online zoo communities for last 20 years and also on my personal experience with dogs. Over my 20 years online presence, I have seen exactly zero proof showing that dildogging can actually be done in a pleasant way. On the other hand, I have seen plenty of crappy porn (before I turned it off in disgust every time) with dildogging that was clearly unpleasant for the dog (but he was forced to endure it). And because of my experience, I know how sensitive a dog penis is and how to properly stimulate dogs and more importantly what exactly is unpleasant for them.

Completely subjective and anecdotal. You said 99% is abusive. Prove it objectively.

If you're going to invoke logic, you must apply it to your own argument. Not doing so renders it invalid.

 

[CanisLupus]

I have a better idea. You pointed out that "dildogging can be done properly" and therefore can be pleasant for the dog. Prove it. Show me just one example of dildogging where the dog is clearly enjoying it. If you can do it, I will accept your claim about "dildogging being pleasant for the dog if done right" (but I still won't accept your claim about "dildogging being the same as oral sex").

 

[JT Bullitt]

Sure, I'll entertain your feeble attempt at deflection, coupled with a tu quoque fallacy. I can't post it here due to forum rules. But I'm sure you have seen "Stronger" by Sabine at AoZ, and "Pleasure Flower" by Lise when she was with AoZ.

If you're going to argue based on emotion and anecdotal "evidence", just do that. It's okay. Just don't cite logic.

 

[bumpkin]

I have a better idea. You pointed out that "dildogging can be done properly" and therefore can be pleasant for the dog. Prove it. Show me just one example of dildogging where the dog is clearly enjoying it. If you can do it, I will accept your claim about "dildogging being pleasant for the dog if done right" (but I still won't accept your claim about "dildogging being the same as oral sex").

Never once seen a dog enjoying dildogging either.
Have see dogs enjoying oral sex.

 

[FloofyNewfie]

When it comes to dildogging like 84% of the time it violates this rule here:

No forcing an animal to stay if they're refusing to be in a position. Suppose they're attempting to leave; forcing them to remain in place is in violation of this rule.

Therefore it is removed, and depending on severity, the user that posted it is either given a verbal warning as to why it was removed, given a warning, or in some cases even banned.

The other 16% of videos generally happens to fall under the "gray matter" policy. I can probably count the number of times I've actually seen a male dog seemingly enjoying being dildogged on one hand, a hand missing a couple of digits at that.