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Men, do you have a question you'd like to ask women??

BruceD77 said:
what just curls your toes when given oral pleasure?
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Best advice I can give is listen to your partner and pay attention to their body language. If you're doing something I like I will moan, I will clamp my legs on your ears, I will grab the back of your head and grind myself against your tongue. If any of those things happen... keep doing exactly what you're doing, don't change or add anything.
 
BruceD77 said:
why does it seem like the nice guy doesnt get the girl?
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So called, and usually self proclaimed, "nice guys" are usually not genuine and have alterior motives for being "nice." One of the worst thing any guy can do is expect any sort of reciprocation, especially sex, for just doing something kind. While the so called bad boy or fuck boy is usually honest and upfront about their intention from the very beginning, there is no deception, but they aren't expecting anything to happen.

BruceD77 said:
And also, sometimes do you just want to argue just to argue?
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Sometimes, if I feel slighted by someone or have had a bad day and need to release some steam and some "nice guy" creep says something offensive.
 
AtomicCookie said:
So called, and usually self proclaimed, "nice guys" are usually not genuine and have alterior motives for being "nice." One of the worst thing any guy can do is expect any sort of reciprocation, especially sex, for just doing something kind. While the so called bad boy or fuck boy is usually honest and upfront about their intention from the very beginning, there is no deception, but they aren't expecting anything to happen.


Sometimes, if I feel slighted by someone or have had a bad day and need to release some steam and some "nice guy" creep says something offensive.
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I mean I think the nice guys you're referring too arent the same nice guys he's talking about.... I think you're thinking of the "where's my hug" and making "friendly" compliments that are just thinly veiled sexual statements.... I think he's referring to the type of guy that just wants your company and kinda gets left behind.... I've known both types and honestly I've seen the actual nice guys get used for sex and emotional support when Yas are feeling down then just put to the side till you need them again and seeing it absolutely breaks my heart... And I second that question... if you have done that to an actual nice guy then why??
 
gfad69 said:
I mean I think the nice guys you're referring too arent the same nice guys he's talking about.... I think you're thinking of the "where's my hug" and making "friendly" compliments that are just thinly veiled sexual statements.... I think he's referring to the type of guy that just wants your company and kinda gets left behind.... I've known both types and honestly I've seen the actual nice guys get used for sex and emotional support when Yas are feeling down then just put to the side till you need them again and seeing it absolutely breaks my heart... And I second that question... if you have done that to an actual nice guy then why??
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I'm actually a married lesbian. Bisexual, but far more attracted to women. I have been with a handful of guys but never used anyone as an emotional or sexual crutch.

A vast majority of nice guys I have ever encountered is the kind who ends up getting upset when I'm not interested in having sex with them. It escalates very quickly after that horribly disguised attempt has been rejected. Always starts with a guilt trip and pity me statements as a last ditch effort to get laid, the ones who have experience will even gaslight at this point, then there's proclamations of what they've done to garner my attention which is why I should fuck them as a kind of almost payment, followed by bargaining statements since the curtain has been pulled back so why not double down and offer something for sex which only serves to make me feel like an object or prostitute which I figure they've viewed me as the entire time, then comes the slut or body shaming that I somehow led them on from the very beginning with a look, add a slew of name calling and sometimes thinly veiled threats, after which the oblivious serial abuser apologizes and gives false comfort and excuses that that kind of behavior will never happen again when they've realized I'm no longer talking to them, then after sometimes days or weeks of harassment we finally get to the finish line where they understand it's not working I'm not replying and they leave me alone. "Nice guys" are not so nice when they don't get their way. Yes, I know there are actual nice guys that exist, but there are just as many if not more sociopaths pretending to be nice that it's frankly almost impossible to tell the difference until its too late.
 
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AtomicCookie said:
I'm actually a married lesbian. Bisexual, but far more attracted to women. I have been with a handful of guys but never used anyone as an emotional or sexual crutch.

A vast majority of nice guys I have ever encountered is the kind who ends up getting upset when I'm not interested in having sex with them. It escalates very quickly after that horribly disguised attempt has been rejected. Always starts with a guilt trip and pity me statements as a last ditch effort to get laid, the ones who have experience will even gaslight at this point, then there's proclamations of what they've done to garner my attention which is why I should fuck them as a kind of almost payment, followed by bargaining statements since the curtain has been pulled back so why not double down and offer something for sex which only serves to make me feel like an object or prostitute which I figure they've viewed me as the entire time, then comes the slut or body shaming that I somehow led them on from the very beginning with a look, add a slew of name calling and sometimes thinly veiled threats, after which the oblivious serial abuser apologizes and gives false comfort excuses that that kind of behavior will never happen again when they've realized I'm no longer talking to them, then we finally get to the finish line where they understand it's not working I'm not replying and they leave me alone. "Nice guys" are not so nice when they don't get their way. Yes, I know there are actual nice guys that exist, but there are just as many if not more sociopaths pretending to be nice that it's frankly almost impossible to tell the difference until its too late.
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Yea but the "nice guys" aren't actual nice guys.... And you get that with most things, the amount of times someone has tried to claim they're doing something nice for me when theyre really just doing nothing but looking after themselves.... I think it just comes down to most being trash and having enough narcissistic safe guards in place to somehow believe they're actually the good guy/girl
 
i guess i never thought of it in that way. im an older guy who still believes in chivalry, and the 'nice guys' that were in our circle that acted like that, especially after a few, we talked to them close up...i still remember this one time we were all at the river fishing, and the one guy that just couldnt learn, he was with his girlfriend and he said something bad to her and made her cry. well he got all shitted and was trying to cover her crying up with the blanket, which made her worse.

and koo koo kachoo, by the time we got there he was so afraid of what he thought was going to happen, he pissed himself...
i apologize for rambling on. i have long covid and i get sidetracked really easily and its hard to focus and remember and comprehend things
thanks atomic cookie for sharing
 
AtomicCookie said:
I'm actually a married lesbian. Bisexual, but far more attracted to women. I have been with a handful of guys but never used anyone as an emotional or sexual crutch.

A vast majority of nice guys I have ever encountered is the kind who ends up getting upset when I'm not interested in having sex with them. It escalates very quickly after that horribly disguised attempt has been rejected. Always starts with a guilt trip and pity me statements as a last ditch effort to get laid, the ones who have experience will even gaslight at this point, then there's proclamations of what they've done to garner my attention which is why I should fuck them as a kind of almost payment, followed by bargaining statements since the curtain has been pulled back so why not double down and offer something for sex which only serves to make me feel like an object or prostitute which I figure they've viewed me as the entire time, then comes the slut or body shaming that I somehow led them on from the very beginning with a look, add a slew of name calling and sometimes thinly veiled threats, after which the oblivious serial abuser apologizes and gives false comfort and excuses that that kind of behavior will never happen again when they've realized I'm no longer talking to them, then after sometimes days or weeks of harassment we finally get to the finish line where they understand it's not working I'm not replying and they leave me alone. "Nice guys" are not so nice when they don't get their way. Yes, I know there are actual nice guys that exist, but there are just as many if not more sociopaths pretending to be nice that it's frankly almost impossible to tell the difference until its too late.
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Self assuming, i think is a narcisistic behavior, be yourself and let the people know who you are and take them the awareness of you.
 
Well, i would like, if it's not a problem, to repropose a question that you ladies made to us in the other thread.
Do you like when we unload our gooey genetic heritage over you? Maybe face, bun, bosom, etc...
 
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no means no - Sorry, I had to... :)

About the "nice guys finish last myth" one story came to my mind. Once a 90yo lady was asked when did she love her late husband the most. She replied: "when he was mopping the floor. That was when I knew he cared about me and I loved him for that". Typical nice guy behavior, right? Therefore the advice to men should be to be nice and you will be attractive. Well, later turned out that the husband was actually a fighter plane pilot in WW2. It would have been more useful advice to highlight the fact that grandpa was an actual top gun war hero, and on top of that he also mopped the floor.

So would you agree with the desirability list of these men?
1 bad guy, who can be nice. In other words a tamed monster who can behave.
2 nice guy, who can be bad sometimes. Turn into a monster if needed, but nice most of the time.
3 bad guy, who is a bad guy.
4 nice guy, who is a always nice. Or even worse: pretends to be nice for sex credits.
 
knotjen said:
Maybe a smidge more than that?

I often mention "fit" because I'm a lifelong runner and eat fairly healthy every day and I know from experience having that in common, at least to some degree, works better from a lifestyle perspective.

It's more of an issue nowadays because I'm in my mid-50's. An awful lot of men my age aren't in great health anymore. Poor diet, lack of sleep, lifetime of stress tends not to do anything good for the body.
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nah i get that, im already starting to fall apart at 30 but most if these problems are birth defects that werent picked up when i was a kid due to being breach and my mum being tiny af which resulted in things like my deviated and ascended patella which was ignored by doctors because they claimed it was growimg pains until i was like 28... that and the bursitis means i cant work out anymore so im gettimg fucking fat and depressed.... eitherway theres nothing worse than going for a walk and havimg to stop everyfive minites bevause your friend is out of breath, or moving a couch and having to put it down every thirty seconds because its "heavy".... ignore my rant, i just took a valium and now all my braincells have gone to sleep
 
CaringDaddy1899 said:
Why I cut all the bad foods and the government poisons out getting fit lost 40 pounds about 10 to go for my target
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That's good man, I can't tell you how many of my friends have tried getting fit and couldn't make it past day two... You should be really proud of yourself man
 
CaringDaddy1899 said:
Why I cut all the bad foods and the government poisons out getting fit lost 40 pounds about 10 to go for my target
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Like seriously.... Pick a number and I can tell you more people than that have signed up to a gym with me and then just wasted the membership... You really should be proud dude, I cannot express that enough
 
knotjen said:
Nice guy is actually a pejorative term for an insecure man who expects his kindness to be rewarded with sex, thus not very nice at all.

People who are kind, nice, and empathetic do stuff for others because they want to make their lives a little easier. Partner, sibling, parents, even total strangers.

It can be done in big ways (volunteering) and in tiny ways, like helping bring in the groceries without being asked, because you know teamwork makes for better relationships overall. Stuff like that.

A lot of women do seem to like "bad guys", but there's a lot of psychology behind that. Sometimes it's because they subconsciously find danger appealing. Somethings their father didn't treat them well so it's "familiar". Sometimes they have an internal drive towards drama which makes them feel important (even though usually that's what they complain about - not being all that important to the guy). Most often, it's just plain ol' insecurity. There are many reasons.

Me, well, I won't say I don't like the look. A tall, fit man in a leather jacket is nice to look at. If he's a jerk, well, he can pass me by but I'll still look because leather jackets on tall, fit men is nice to look at :)
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Hopefully with the Addition of a Stetson?
 
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