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Has anyone here ever successfully 'seduced' someone non-zoo into experimenting with zoo before?

Salacious Wolf

Salacious Wolf

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Hello all! :) Long time lurker here and more zoo-curious than anything. Mainly, certain types of zoo porn kinks really turn me on and I would even love to watch it live if at all possible... I'd even be a willing cameraman, although I don't really know how to use a camera 'professionally'.

I have this fantasy of having an isolated rural property with mares, dogs, et.c., then having an acquaintance, friend or relative visit while at least one mare is on heat. After we explore the farm, I take them to see the mare and show them her winking pussy then point out how horny she is and in need of being serviced - but no stallions, because I don't wont her getting pregnant!

Then I make my spiel to said person: "Good thing we're on an isolated farm, because if you're curious you're welcome to take full advantage and I won't tell another soul! It'll be a win/win for both you and the mare! The only thing I ask is that you let me watch and you're very welcome to fuck her with wild abandonment!

I'd also make a similar spiel about getting a lickjob till cum-shot from the cum-thirsty farm dog, again provided I can watch it all... I love the voyeurism and exhibitionism of it all. There is something so primal about it! :giggle: I'd even be prepared to bribe said 'non-zoo' persons into doing it, just to see if giving them the money to try something so taboo will kickstart any zoo instincts in them. ;) Zoo for pay! :ROFLMAO:

I am extremely curious to know if anyone here has actually ever tried anything cheeky like that when the right opportunity presented itself? :cool:
 
Gimmegoldplz said:
A girl I talked to online couple years ago... got her to send me some videos and pics of her chihuahua lick her pussy. She said she had her first orgasm with the chihuahua...
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Cool! :giggle:So you suggested the chihuahua to her and she willingly experimented? Well done! :cool:

A few months back while chatting with some random lad about beast porn (he had never tried it before), he was already filming himself jerk off when the family dog unexpected entered his room and gave his cock a few licks! That was enough to send him over the edge and he came as soon as the dog had stopped licking him. It sure was good of him to share his spontaneous zoo experience with me. :sneaky:
 
Miss_Rachel said:
Why on earth would you do such a thing? I would never dream of tempting someone into the life unless they wanted to join in the fun! If this is your idea of fun, would you be up for raping some poor girl or guy as well?
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If they were tempted to do it, it means by default that they consented! Don't know what is hard to comprehend about that!
It's not as if I'm suggesting to put a gun against their head and force them against their own will. The whole point is to tempt them into overcoming their own boundaries! If they cannot be tempted, then so be it!
If some people are willing to take a cash incentive, then it's no different to paying a hooker for a sex act, or going 'gay for pay' for that matter!
 
Your argument is very thin. I was inspired to try zoo sex. Someone, who had no idea that they even had, gave me the inspiration to try it for myself. They had no idea I even knew about them, I won't explain how I knew. Not here.
Tempted does not imply consent. And to throw temptation in front of them, knowingly, implies malice aforethought, don't you think?
 
Miss_Rachel said:
Your argument is very thin. I was inspired to try zoo sex. Someone, who had no idea that they even had, gave me the inspiration to try it for myself. They had no idea I even knew about them, I won't explain how I knew. Not here.
Tempted does not imply consent. And to throw temptation in front of them, knowingly, implies malice aforethought, don't you think?
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No I don't - and it escapes my understanding how you can even think that!
It's not as if I would be suggesting it to someone incapable of giving informed consent. Maybe you are just projecting your own experience that you are unwilling to mention.
One cannot be tempted by something they aren't curious about or had some latent repressed thoughts over.
It's really hardly any different to many stories where one friend discovered that the other friend was into beast, then got curious by what they were told and decided to try it out for themselves. This is no different!
My idea is to make them curious by providing them with a safe opportunity to experiment with something taboo - if they so choose to!
 
First I’ll say zoophilia isn’t a kink, to me it’s a sexuality.

And I wouldn’t ever use any baiting tactics or bribery but I do think that we are very sexually suppressed in this culture and it is a fantasy of mine to sort of help someone I know well and who is trusting of me to open the doors to a world they were never allowed to see (namely this one).

I don’t think you mean any malice by this but the bribery bit is something that really doesn’t make for good ambassadorship for the zoo community. Even if you’re not a zoo, keep in mind that you are representing those of us who want to be accepted for who we are and respected. Thanks.
 
TheSeeker said:
First I’ll say zoophilia isn’t a kink, to me it’s a sexuality.

And I wouldn’t ever use any baiting tactics or bribery but I do think that we are very sexually suppressed in this culture and it is a fantasy of mine to sort of help someone I know well and who is trusting of me to open the doors to a world they were never allowed to see (namely this one).

I don’t think you mean any malice by this but the bribery bit is something that really doesn’t make for good ambassadorship for the zoo community. Even if you’re not a zoo, keep in mind that you are representing those of us who want to be accepted for who we are and respected. Thanks.
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Thanks for your comment! I certainly mean no harm with my idea and I realise that for you it's an orientation. For people like me, it's an incidental kink, like bi-curious - except this is 'zoo-curious'. ;)
I prefer humans, but I do enjoy watching other humans getting off in such a 'taboo' manner - and a little temptation never hurt anyone. :D
 
Salacious Wolf said:
Thanks for your comment! I certainly mean no harm with my idea and I realise that for you it's an orientation. For people like me, it's an incidental kink, like bi-curious - except this is 'zoo-curious'. ;)
I prefer humans, but I do enjoy watching other humans getting off in such a 'taboo' manner - and a little temptation never hurt anyone. :D
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Glad to hear that man! You’re alright by me ?
 
"and it is a fantasy of mine to sort of help someone I know well and who is trusting of me to open the doors" - I have done this very recently, Seeker. But I would never openly make a suggestion, it came up in a convo and I just asked what she meant by what she just said. She was embarrassed but persisted.
I don't like or use the word "kink" either. In fact, that word is banned in this household!
I think Salacious Wolf means something other than "tempt". Please don't think I was being confrontational, I just think "tempting" is not the way to encourage interest. I don't think tempted implies curious, necessarily.
 
Miss_Rachel said:
"and it is a fantasy of mine to sort of help someone I know well and who is trusting of me to open the doors" - I have done this very recently, Seeker. But I would never openly make a suggestion, it came up in a convo and I just asked what she meant by what she just said. She was embarrassed but persisted.
I don't like or use the word "kink" either. In fact, that word is banned in this household!
I think Salacious Wolf means something other than "tempt". Please don't think I was being confrontational, I just think "tempting" is not the way to encourage interest. I don't think tempted implies curious, necessarily.
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I use 'tempt' in this context as a synonym for 'seduce'. ;) One cannot be seduced by something one is not even curious about.
I would definitely talk dirty to trusted friends about it to see if it turned them on and they became curious to try - and then I would provide them with a 'safe space' to explore their own newfound curiosity. :giggle:
 
Salacious Wolf said:
Cool! :giggle:So you suggested the chihuahua to her and she willingly experimented? Well done! :cool:

A few months back while chatting with some random lad about beast porn (he had never tried it before), he was already filming himself jerk off when the family dog unexpected entered his room and gave his cock a few licks! That was enough to send him over the edge and he came as soon as the dog had stopped licking him. It sure was good of him to share his spontaneous zoo experience with me. :sneaky:
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Lol yea something like that.. so we were texting while I was with my dogs playing with their squeaky toy and one of the dogs was sniffing around my butt and I told her and that started the conversation.. after a while she "talked me into" letting them lick me lol and we just kept talking about it and eventually she gave it a try too and she liked it... not sure if she kept up with it over time but she did have fun with her doggie quite a bit in the time talked.
 
Gimmegoldplz said:
Lol yea something like that.. so we were texting while I was with my dogs playing with their squeaky toy and one of the dogs was sniffing around my butt and I told her and that started the conversation.. after a while she "talked me into" letting them lick me lol and we just kept talking about it and eventually she gave it a try too and she liked it... not sure if she kept up with it over time but she did have fun with her doggie quite a bit in the time talked.
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Very cool! That's the best way to explore one's curiosity. :cool:
 
Miss_Rachel said:
"and it is a fantasy of mine to sort of help someone I know well and who is trusting of me to open the doors" - I have done this very recently, Seeker. But I would never openly make a suggestion, it came up in a convo and I just asked what she meant by what she just said. She was embarrassed but persisted.
I don't like or use the word "kink" either. In fact, that word is banned in this household!
I think Salacious Wolf means something other than "tempt". Please don't think I was being confrontational, I just think "tempting" is not the way to encourage interest. I don't think tempted implies curious, necessarily.
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Glad you got the opportunity to help someone like that. People need a little push to get over their inhibitions and get to know their “true” self sometimes. I use that word lightly because I don’t think anyone ever fully knows themself.
 
Salacious Wolf said:
One cannot be seduced by something one is not even curious about.
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You sure as hell can, especially if money is involved as you're implying. Just look at all the shit beast porn that comes out of Brazil full of drugged animals and not a single actress that wants to be there. Every one of them is fumbling and clearly afraid of the animal and is full of fake acted moaning. I guarantee you not one of them has any interest in being there beyond the money and definitely does not continue to pursue it once off the camera, in all likelyhood carrying it as an everlasting shame of filth they can never forget or scrub away.

And that does not just apply to beast porn, there's plenty of mainstream porn you can tell, especially if it's a cut or "blooper" scene, that the actress wanted nothing to do with the action going on, putting up with it only for the pay check.
 
dartel said:
You sure as hell can, especially if money is involved as you're implying. Just look at all the shit beast porn that comes out of Brazil full of drugged animals and not a single actress that wants to be there. Every one of them is fumbling and clearly afraid of the animal and is full of fake acted moaning. I guarantee you not one of them has any interest in being there beyond the money and definitely does not continue to pursue it once off the camera, in all likelyhood carrying it as an everlasting shame of filth they can never forget or scrub away.

And that does not just apply to beast porn, there's plenty of mainstream porn you can tell, especially if it's a cut or "blooper" scene, that the actress wanted nothing to do with the action going on, putting up with it only for the pay check.
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You make a fair point and that is clearly a case of exploitation in the sex industry in an impoverished country. I don't enjoy that kind of beast porn at all! I only like the consensual amateur stuff.
In my case, I am talking about theoretically offering friends the opportunity to be the consenting active partner with a consenting animal , rather than bribing them to be a not very willing passive partner. That should be clear from my initial explanation.
The example you gave is not about being seduced, it's about being induced - which is not exactly an enjoyable experience.
 
Oh, yay...

Yet another in the seemingly endless string of desperate kinksters and their variations on "I wanna see somebody fuck an animal - how can I get 'em to do it so I can get my rocks off?"
 
UR20Z said:
Oh, yay...

Yet another in the seemingly endless string of desperate kinksters and their variations on "I wanna see somebody fuck an animal - how can I get 'em to do it so I can get my rocks off?"
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I want to know who has successfully done it - I'm here for the real story! And yes, people do have their kinks - that is basically what I watch zoo porn and enjoy reading 'true' zoo stories for. ;)
 
UR20Z said:
Oh, yay...

Yet another in the seemingly endless string of desperate kinksters and their variations on "I wanna see somebody fuck an animal - how can I get 'em to do it so I can get my rocks off?"
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i find it kinda sad how most of these ppl don't even see that "making someone do it with an animal" can very easily be the very worst thing that ever happened to that person. you can't get "unfucked" afterwards, it stays with you. forever. just so some random joe (well, random joe at best, your partner/spouse at worst) can jack off to you for a bit...
 
nekdoneco123 said:
i find it kinda sad how most of these ppl don't even see that "making someone do it with an animal" can very easily be the very worst thing that ever happened to that person. you can't get "unfucked" afterwards, it stays with you. forever. just so some random joe (well, random joe at best, your partner/spouse at worst) can jack off to you for a bit...
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Who is talking about making/coercing someone into doing something they don't want to do?!? :rolleyes: I'm asking about seduction techniques here - I want a person in question to be both curious and horny enough to experiment, otherwise forget it!
I want them to feel comfortable and safe enough to explore their potential curiosity without any negative judgement!
It occurs to me that many people accidentally discovered zoo pleasure and became hooked on it thereafter. I'm just seeking ways to safely enable any such opportunities for erotic self-expression.
 
My ex claimed to be strongly against zoo stuff. But i got her to open up and admit some petting when she was younger. then she wanted to try with her dog. But he was fixed young... The cuties tiny boner on a medium dog XD
 
Salacious Wolf said:
Who is talking about making/coercing someone into doing something they don't want to do?!? :rolleyes: I'm asking about seduction techniques here - I want a person in question to be both curious and horny enough to experiment, otherwise forget it!
I want them to feel comfortable and safe enough to explore their potential curiosity without any negative judgement!
It occurs to me that many people accidentally discovered zoo pleasure and became hooked on it thereafter. I'm just seeking ways to safely enable any such opportunities for erotic self-expression.
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the "you" part about all this is the wrong thing. ppl should explore their desires on their own terms... not by someone trying to "enable" them. "horned-up" person can feel very differently about what they want before and after the deed. regret can be a powerful thing.
 
Zoomannfla said:
I guess we aren't allowed any fantasies here..as if thats really going to happen..and as if all of us don't fantasize..
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Unfortunately some people only subscribe to the negative outcomes of situations vs positive ones. Or they are always seeing victims everywhere... If we live life by fear of negative outcomes, then we live no life at all.

Ignore and move on i say!
 
Zoomannfla said:
I guess we aren't allowed any fantasies here..as if thats really going to happen..and as if all of us don't fantasize..
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the op isn't asking about fantasies tho...
Mickflare said:
Unfortunately some people only subscribe to the negative outcomes of situations vs positive ones. Or they are always seeing victims everywhere... If we live life by fear of negative outcomes, then we live no life at all.

Ignore and move on i say!
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surprisingly, negative outcomes are a thing... and not that rare in our "lifestyle". making someone do something they might really not want to do themselves under normal circumstances (especially to someone you are supposed to care about) is a pretty terrible thing to do. and for what? you get to jerk off to a live porn?

it is pretty save to assume that ppl really curious about doing something zoo-ey will make it happen on their own terms... and trying to "make zoos" is something that goes against the zeta principles (a set of principles i firmly believe "we" all should adhere to if we ever want to be viewed as a coherent group of ppl/community)
 
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