Guilt of beeing zoo. How to get rid of that?

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Donea

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In my experience of beeing zoo I stumbled upon a problem of feeling enormous guilt. I didn't do anything bad. Logicly I wouldn't even be doing anything bad by loving the animal, but here I am with serious problem. I cannot withstand myself beeing zoo. Every time I get heated up and end up having bit of "private zoo searching" I feel taking blame for something unmoral.

Is this something common?
Can you get rid of that?
How do I convice myself I am not hurting anyone?
Are there like zoo psychologist?(I cannot tell anyone obviously)
 
69woofwoof69 said:
I totally understand where you’re coming from. Having to accept that shadow side of your soul in order to come into balance.
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Yeah, but how do I accept that shadow.
Problem is that I know everything is morally okay, but I still feel weight of coulture I was risen in. It's the coulture that I'm used to that makes me feel terrible. Coulture says that zoo people are degenerates and I still feel inside like it's true even tho I know otherwise.
 
Donea said:
In my experience of beeing zoo I stumbled upon a problem of feeling enormous guilt. I didn't do anything bad. Logicly I wouldn't even be doing anything bad by loving the animal, but here I am with serious problem. I cannot withstand myself beeing zoo. Every time I get heated up and end up having bit of "private zoo searching" I feel taking blame for something unmoral.

Is this something common?
Can you get rid of that?
How do I convice myself I am not hurting anyone?
Are there like zoo psychologist?(I cannot tell anyone obviously)
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It is common for new zoos. I would say most of us went through something like this.
You can get over that by accepting you are not like the others. :D

What do you actually do that you have to convince yourself you are not hurting anyone?

I doubt a zoo psychologist will help you accept you are into animals. That is not what the average normal Joe should be like, so you would likely be pressed to give up and turn into a normal human.
 
pes said:
It is common for new zoos. I would say most of us went through something like this.
You can get over that by accepting you are not like the others. :D

What do you actually do that you have to convince yourself you are not hurting anyone?

I doubt a zoo psychologist will help you accept you are into animals. That is not what the average normal Joe should be like, so you would likely be pressed to give up and turn into a normal human.
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At least im not the only one with that problem. TwT
I've never done anything bad to animal. I never even had sexual contact with any cause I felt thats bad. The problem is that i feel like having any sexual relation with animal is like hurting it. I would be scared of doing any harm to any animal by some horny fantasies and also I feel bad while simply watching porn.
 
What helped me to come to terms with being zoo is quite simply asking myself why do I feel in a certain way.
Donea said:
The problem is that i feel like having any sexual relation with animal is like hurting it.
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Why? What makes you think that?
Donea said:
I would be scared of doing any harm to any animal by some horny fantasies
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A part of being a zoophile and having an animal partner is the realization that you have to adapt to what the animal can give you, not the other way around. Put simply if the animal does not like something or does not do something, you have to accept that and focus on the stuff you can do.
Donea said:
also I feel bad while simply watching porn.
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What porn do you watch and why does it make you feel bad? Can you switch to some other porn like yiff art for example. Would that help?
 
pes said:
Why? What makes you think that?

A part of being a zoophile and having an animal partner is the realization that you have to adapt to what the animal can give you, not the other way around. Put simply if the animal does not like something or does not do something, you have to accept that and focus on the stuff you can do.

What porn do you watch and why does it make you feel bad? Can you switch to some other porn like yiff art for example. Would that help?
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I just feel wrong cause of coulture. It's the thing that is hard to get rid of. Knowing that for moast of people something is morally wrong is making it stressfull to do.(far right christian background)

I know how to addapt to animal and stuff. I used to have a few accounts here already, but I abandomed them cause I fealt guilt. I still have that bit of knowleadge. I'm scared that even tho I know what to do I'm gonna do something bad or I might just end not reading the animal correctly or I just might be wrong all along and it's bad for real

I just watch some stuff that I find here. I find comercial stuff a bit artificial and not arrousing. I have e621 account for years already, but it's not the same as real videos. They give expierience on a different level. Problem is again the stress of beeing other than the rest of people around me. It goes like that that I always after having fun I have thoughts that I done that again and what terrible I'am.
 
Donea said:
I just feel wrong cause of coulture. It's the thing that is hard to get rid of. Knowing that for moast of people something is morally wrong is making it stressfull to do.(far right christian background)
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Most people are not you, are they? Most people will never know what you do in your own room.
I am not going to attempt to reason with the religious part of the problem. I have done that a few times on this forum and it does not lead anywhere. But if the religion is the source of your feelings of guilt, you can absolutely find more than one excuse in your holy book to get around that.

I would suggest diving into the problem of why you think being different is wrong and deconstructing it to the very basics. Then reconsidering whether bothering yourself with it is worth the stress or not.
 
pes said:
Most people are not you, are they? Most people will never know what you do in your own room.
I am not going to attempt to reason with the religious part of the problem. I have done that a few times on this forum and it does not lead anywhere. But if the religion is the source of your feelings of guilt, you can absolutely find more than one excuse in your holy book to get around that.

I would suggest diving into the problem of why you think being different is wrong and deconstructing it to the very basics. Then reconsidering whether bothering yourself with it is worth the stress or not.
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I'm not christian or anything I just were told by chistians what is good and bad and now I'm fighting with my own moral compass that is build on wrong assumptions.
EDIT: I mean it's not moral compass, but conscience
 
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Donea said:
Are there like zoo psychologist?(I cannot tell anyone obviously)
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You might want to read Understanding bestiality and zoophilia by Hani Miletski - available even here as pdf.
She is psychologist who studied zoophilia and wrote a book about it.
She has an email and seems to be friendly. She might even recommend some therapist to you if you ask her.

But in all cases you are going to have to do the work yourself. A therapist could help you by asking the right questions or giving the right examples, but you yourself will have to want to help yourself. You know yourself better than anyone else and only you can fight with your own head. There is no magic pill that solves these problems.
This might be a pretty touch fight since it will force you to think about things you may be avoiding.
 
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pes said:
You might want to read Understanding zoophilia and bestiality by Hani Miletski - available even here as pdf.
She is psychologist who studied zoophilia and wrote a book about it.
She has an email and seems to be friendly. She might even recommend some therapist to you if you ask her.

But in all cases you are going to have to do the work yourself. A therapist could help you by asking the right questions or giving the right examples, but you yourself will have to want to help yourself. You know yourself better than anyone else and only you can fight with your own head. There is no magic pill that solves these problems.
This might be a pretty touch fight since it will force you to think about things you may be avoiding.
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YES FINALLY!!!
That book gonna help me a lot. I was just looking for something like this. I mean I could get into articels & blog tab, but I could not find there anything that was intresting enought for me. With tiny exeption for podcasts.
 

A collection of studies on zoophilia

I have collected a number or studies, books and articles dealing with zoophilia over the past years. So here I would like to share them with whoever is interested.
www.zoovilleforum.net www.zoovilleforum.net
Here you go. :D
Includes the book in comment 3.
 
Donea said:
Yeah, but how do I accept that shadow.
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start by simply not calling it "a shadow"... there's nothing dark or shadowy about having feelings for others despite their species.
can't really help much beyond that. i never felt any guilt... why would i? it's a part of me i had no control over, i didn't "choose" to be a zoo. do you feel guilty about your eye color? or what your dominant arm is?
 
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Donea said:
Are there like zoo psychologist?(I cannot tell anyone obviously)
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We get this same question a lot. It depends on your country/state/province/canton and the ethics rules and healthcare laws.

In the U.S., a licensed therapist cannot discuss your problems with others except in a very few circumstances, like if there is an imminent threat of harm to someone -- for example, if you were to tell your shrink that you were going to go home and eat your roommate's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti. You can always go find a therapist and ask what the rules are, and ask to be shown documentation of the rules if you want to be really sure, and ask for an interpretation of "what if I were to talk to you about screwing my dog?" if the rules are loose enough that they might apply to "harm to animals".
 
nekdoneco123 said:
start by simply not calling it "a shadow"... there's nothing dark or shadowy about having feelings for others despite their species.
can't really help much beyond that. i never felt any guilt... why would i? it's a part of me i had no control over, i didn't "choose" to be a zoo. do you feel guilty about your eye color? or what your dominant arm is?
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Good point, but I look for something like exercise or anything cause it's how I think or feel. It's something deep inside residue. I thought that maybe somebody here has some marvolous trick/mental exercise to make things better.
 
Porky said:
We get this same question a lot. It depends on your country/state/province/canton and the ethics rules and healthcare laws.

In the U.S., a licensed therapist cannot discuss your problems with others except in a very few circumstances, like if there is an imminent threat of harm to someone -- for example, if you were to tell your shrink that you were going to go home and eat your roommate's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti. You can always go find a therapist and ask what the rules are, and ask to be shown documentation of the rules if you want to be really sure, and ask for an interpretation of "what if I were to talk to you about screwing my dog?" if the rules are loose enough that they might apply to "harm to animals".
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I don't have enought of psyche to talk about zoo stuff with anyone irl. I know I could try and stuff, but I feel like it's gonna be more harm than good.
 
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