Literally our worst fear. Thanks for the lookout. I feel like another good way is to look at their posting history to see how genuine they are before engaging with them.
I merged that thread with this one. Her post comes up in the previous page.
I was talking to k9taboo and she never replied. Not sure what the deal was. But anyway there's a user on here that I knew in real life and she came onto me at work then broke my heart. Literally dumped me for no reason. She was all into me when I told her my sexual interests in beastiality and she told me hers, but then just wigged out on me after the first date. I found out she's a user here on the site after I knew her in person, so you guys reading this should also be careful of...how do I say "crazies" in a nice way? This girl will play with your heart and emotions to try and get sex then leave you without saying anything...the weirdest thing. Then she setup meets with guys for dog sex and doesn't show. This girls big trouble guys. Be carefulHey guys,
So I've had a couple responses to my ads in the meet up section now, that have been fakes looking to speak to me, get to know me / meet me for whatever reason, but it is not because they are genuine owners. They are blatantly fake. I've just had another contact me today who conveniently owns one of each animal that I've been specifically requesting in the meet up section (I'm a girl), and who is also conveniently the same heritage me, which I've posted in a couple discussions on this forum where it comes up in topic, they're also a Lurker... go figure. So I think starting a thread where we can all post the usernames of fake or very suspicious accounts on here would be a good safety measure, if anyone has been contacted by someone & they're unsure of them, they can check this thread to see if anyone has any trouble with them or not. Two accounts I can confidently say are fake are K9Taboo and esmee._x . I simply don't respond to them.
Thank you Outdoor for asking and jelly for anwsering. I'm also very new here and the more i see the more scared i get to be here.I think its just a question of well why do you need to move to another messaging service away from the website where anonymity is comprised? Its simply suspicious. It doesn't mean you're fake, theres just no real reason for it.
For me, what makes me hit the button, is claiming something that is not yours. Like this one:
I don't care if they are catfish or not. It is not our job to shield people from that. This person however, claimed a pic that is obviously not them.
Going to check out the other one. BTW, I hate links. If the picture does not immediately show up, I will not search for it.
Edit: that was a damn good link. It had everything we needed.
haha yes I meant instant at the moment I realized his pics were fake. But Yes, it definitely adds experience and vigilance for future interactions.Well.......maybe not INSTANT............
lol at least you know better for any future interactions though right?
I think it's important to say that because it's the internet, no matter what, you're never going to be 100% certain until the exact moment.I recently had someone on here whom I thought had a reliable/consistent post history, had the right interactions on the site, and has been a member for a few years. So we chatted a bit and then moved onto Kik. I know. We're advised to keep the communication on the site, but other messaging apps are so much easier to use, especially since you get push notifications. Anyway, I felt comfortable enough chatting with him on there. We were exchanging pics and it became super obvious that he was lying when he sent me a few pictures that he claimed he had taken right then in the moment, then I quickly did a reverse image search and found the photos on this and other sites. Clearly, he didn't snap the pics right then and send them to me, if they were already online. Instant red flag.
Yep. Agreed. The odds may be good but never certain. You also bring up a good point that the fakes themselves are among us. I’ve also thought on the fact that they can read our posts and learn to disguise themselves better over time. Heck, the guy I’m talking about may very well be reading this post now. If anything I hope he realizes I’m not as gullible as he was counting on, and maybe he’ll just go and waste someone else’s time.I think it's important to say that because it's the internet, no matter what, you're never going to be 100% certain until the exact moment.
Looking at what you wrote, what I see says you did all you really can do to weed out the fakes, flakes, and losers. And you still got a flake, so it's important to point out what I first said, if for no other reason than so that everyone realizes there isn't any 100% way. And, there really isn't a cure for that because....internet.
What everyone over time has been saying are simply ways to improve the odds you aren't wasting your time. I feel for you. You did it all by the book and you still got a flake and that really is a bad deal.
That being said, doing the things you did, most times, and in 90% or higher of instances, they weed out WAY earlier. It's important to note that sometimes in life, you do all the right things and you still lose.
Such and such disease might be 99.9% survivable and that's great news......unless YOU are the .1% that dies. And, that's sort of how most of life works. If you could take 99.9% odds into a casino, wouldn't you take that? Hells, yes, all day every day. But, it's important to remember that there does still exist the possibility to lose.
Improved odds work IN your favor but you don't have 100% protection in almost any instance ever.
Another thought too, is that scammers and flakes read these threads too, and EVERY counter to them we post, they learn a little bit about the defenses and they adjust their tactics too.
Agreed.Yep. Agreed. The odds may be good but never certain. You also bring up a good point that the fakes themselves are among us. I’ve also thought on the fact that they can read our posts and learn to disguise themselves better over time. Heck, the guy I’m talking about may very well be reading this post now. If anything I hope he realizes I’m not as gullible as he was counting on, and maybe he’ll just go and waste someone else’s time.
As a user of the site, and genuinely interested in meeting likeminded people, I’ve found a lot of very helpful posts myself. At first it was about the porn for me, and it drew me in for those personal reasons. But as I’m seeing other discussions that take place, I’m really appreciating the value of other users’ comments and feedback. It really reveals for me a different layer of common thinking and common interest that others have and I’ve not been able to share before finding ZV. In a few words, it makes the whole subject matter seem much less isolated and makes me feel much less alone.
Good points.Really great points Dogdaddy69 and boi2bmounted. I'll admit I feel a little jealous when I think of others who meet so soon, but the idea of opening myself to enormous risk for short term gain could upend my life. That's years of developed patience and vigilance and the work my life put to waste. It would be a terrible shame to throw that away. Staying focused on the long term is much healthier for my mental health in the long run anyway. I can't take the rapid fire chaos of managing that much risk all at once. Maybe it's just a sign that I'm getting old(er) but it's what works for me!
I feel frustrated when I think of how hard it is to feel connected through all the kevlar we put on so-to-speak, and, at the same time I'm so grateful to have a place where this connection is still possible. I'm a diversity-lover, so it's also wonderful to celebrate all the different personalities and their idiosyncrasies, even if there's occasional conflict. I'm not sure if everyone would agree with that. But that's me. I love life's weirdness. This forum opens the floor to all these different people and opportunity for conversation about things we can't talk about openly in public spaces. It just means so much. I think it's very valuable. We can learn more about ourselves, and to love ourselves even more through the acceptance you find here, and through the struggle of everything we're talking about now! I know it's all been said before but your comments just spoke to me .
And, it's always advisable to not push your comfortzone too far out. Only you really know where those boundries are.
Very true. We have gut instinct for a reason. It's survival tool. Different things trigger it and it isn't always the thing you think it is at the time you get it.This brings up an important thought. Listening to your gut. I can’t say how many times in my life (not necessarily having to do with zoo stuff) I’ve just had that “gut feeling” and it turned out to be true. Your body knows before you do and if something just ‘doesn’t feel right’, or as they say if it seems too good to be true, then it most likely is. Which brings me to my next point.
There have been times where I was in a situation, and I started to get little suspicions or perhaps not entirely sure that I was dealing with a safe encounter. I remember the feeling of desperately wanting the situation to be real or wishing the person on the other end was genuine. I could feel myself starting to ignore my intuitions and had to quickly rein my expectations back in. Reminding myself that it all seemed just a bit too good to be true, coupled with the holes beginning to emerge in their story, the safer bet was to hold back. As all of us know, the risks are not light. So if something doesn’t line up, never ignore that gut feeling.
Very true. Thanks for clarifying and I appreciate that little self-challenge.As for what I said regarding time it takes to meet, if you want to meet.....the time was just a way to convey the real point, which is, most of the time, the success or lack of success in meeting lies with the person, not the "other" person. It does work both ways and you don't control everything, but, you do control you, and if other people can get meets in that amount of time, why not "you", any you, if that makes sense?
In my opinion, I think few people are willing to look in the mirror and ask that question because it's easier to look out and ask it.
I'd say that was the original purpose.Is this thread also for catfish alerts? Because I had been talking to someone and it is now obvious that he is not genuine. But I don't want to drop his name if I don't have to.
I'd say that was the original purpose.
A thread for alerting (with evidence) users about people not beeing what they say even if they were not banned.
You can still report the user via report button in his/her profile if you do not want to make it public
So I think other posters should know to be wary when talking with him.
That's how many of those type are around , they don't have the decency to get have a formal, respected conversation, I mean, seriously, what is with them asking sex questions or trying just to use your animals for their pleasure or random hookups but we know nothing of them . I also received a message "I have read your story... and then just like - Is my stallion sexually ready and active? What de hell! Not even a proper introduction.Well he's not saying he's someone else or claiming other people's pics are his own. He's just trying to get quick hookups with seemingly little care about dog OR owner which cast doubt on his sincerity, which I don't think is against the rules. But after leading me on in DMs and then reading his many other posts after that , I'm sure you can understand my skepticism. So I think other posters should know to be wary when talking with him.
Indeed those may be an annoyance, but those need no user awarness. They do well enough making people aware of their intentions all by themselvesThat's how many of those type are around , they don't have the decency to get have a formal, respected conversation, I mean, seriously, what is with them asking sex questions or trying just to use your animals for their pleasure or random hookups but we know nothing of them . I also received a message "I have read your story... and then just like - Is my stallion sexually ready and active? What de hell! Not even a proper introduction.
I think it would be a good idea to shine light on the user. At the very least if he is genuine and sees that someone is skeptical of him already, then he might adjust his approach. If he’s a fake, then all the better to deter him from catfishing on here.