Dating in today's society is terrible

Exactly haha, a zoo forum is not precisely the best place for dating. And althrough it is true modern dating, specially for straight guys is hell, it is still doable, just take care of yourself, be nice, and learn to accept a no for an answer, be nice not expecting something in return, but just because is the good thing to do 😁
 
xaranit436 said:
, specially for straight guys is hell, it is still doable, just take care of yourself, be nice, and learn to accept a no for an answer, be nice not expecting something in return, but just because is the good thing to do 😁
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Is doable?
I never had luck, true I did not put much efford, but I did the same with guys, and I got a few serious contacts plus a few more I politely turned down. (and same happened to me)

When it comes to women all seemed to either be there showing off, look for benefits, or have hidden agendas.
Or maybe they were just waiting for me to insist instead of saying "oh, ok. laters. have fun out there"? Meh. Not happening

But amateur porn sites are fun after a while. Specially when they post a supposedly teasing video of her fucking, and you compliment the guys tool instead of her, and ask if she would share him 🤣
 
Goattobeloved said:
Is doable?
I never had luck, true I did not put much efford, but I did the same with guys, and I got a few serious contacts plus a few more I politely turned down. (and same happened to me)

When it comes to women all seemed to either be there showing off, look for benefits, or have hidden agendas.
Or maybe they were just waiting for me to insist instead of saying "oh, ok. laters. have fun out there"? Meh. Not happening

But amateur porn sites are fun after a while. Specially when they post a supposedly teasing video of her fucking, and you compliment the guys tool instead of her, and ask if she would share him 🤣
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yeah, guys are better for dating, im bi and when i was dating, i had way much better experience with guys, more eager to listen and talk, and generally more pleasing to talk to, women on the other hand, usually ridiculous high standards, crazy, or stuff like telling me to the face she expects me to bring her to a fancy restaurant and pay the bill cause "that is what guys are supposes to do", sorry im not interested in being your cuck paypig haha.
 
"Hey, I am a modern man who believes in women equality to man, so this time *you* take me to a nice restaurant and top the bill"
🤣
 
Dating is like gueesing game, wheel of fortune. Luck dependent activity, that's all. Finding a good partner is like finding diamond in big pillar of manure 🤭

Meg
 
knotjen said:
Which high standards are these? I'm genuinely curious and not poking fun.


Well, if you invited her to the fancy restaurant, you should expect to pay the bill. I did when I asked guys out (and I have, many times).

"Dutch" is always an option.
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High standards as they are mother of 2, ugly, unemployed, and not very enjoyable, and expect you to be a 10/10, with nice house already, a high paying job, look like the sexiest actor, have a body from a greek god, and esentially do everything.

And no, its not inviting her to a fancy restaurant, is she demanding that the first date must be in a fancy restaurant of her choice and i have to pay the bill otherwise its like i am not interested enough in her.
 
Okay I'mma teach you the magical trick to dating if the outcome you want is a happy and fairly healthy relationship. Just chill... You've got time, and there's nothing wrong with being single, if you feel you need a partner to be happy, then you are missing something else, be happy on your own before you start dating. Once you got that down, it's all fine, They're not interested? Who cares! There are other people. You run into issues like them expecting you to pay when you can't, just tell them what you want, if that's a problem you can politely decide you're not interested. Dating becomes incredibly easy once you stop stressing about it so much.
 
best dating advice I've ever gotten is just not to do it, it's true that the majority of younger american women think their hot shit when they really aren't but a lot of men have issues that make them pretty hard to love too

if I were you I'd get yourself a hobby you're really invested in and a little furry friend to keep you company and call it a day
 
xaranit436 said:
High standards as they are mother of 2, ugly, unemployed, and not very enjoyable, and expect you to be a 10/10, with nice house already, a high paying job, look like the sexiest actor, have a body from a greek god, and esentially do everything.

And no, its not inviting her to a fancy restaurant, is she demanding that the first date must be in a fancy restaurant of her choice and i have to pay the bill otherwise its like i am not interested enough in her.
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Dude...if you want to go without, feel free. You obviously lack both people skills and a willingness to actually grow up. The world runs as it does.....Men have been inviting women to dinner literally since the first neanderthal threw a carcass on the ground in front of a potential mate....since that equation obviously works( it must....you're here), it isnt going to change for you. Accept it, or dont.

Most women like fancy eateries, but that doesnt mean thats a requirement....of course if you come on like an ape, and they get the idea you only want the dessert....well, Id hold out for a Ruth's or better, myself. Cheapskates get what they pay for. Treat her as she expects she SHOULD be treated, and youre likely to get a lot more.
 
xaranit436 said:
High standards as they are mother of 2, ugly, unemployed, and not very enjoyable, and expect you to be a 10/10, with nice house already, a high paying job, look like the sexiest actor, have a body from a greek god, and esentially do everything.

And no, its not inviting her to a fancy restaurant, is she demanding that the first date must be in a fancy restaurant of her choice and i have to pay the bill otherwise its like i am not interested enough in her.
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Wanna specify that the advice I gave earlier... isn't gonna help you... if you think someone is ugly and... "not enjoyable"... don't date them?
Why the fuck would you complain about dating someone you clearly don't like? You can just not...
 
saddlebum66 said:
Cheapskates get what they pay for. Treat her as she expects she SHOULD be treated, and youre likely to get a lot more.
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this attitude is the whole problem actually, you treat a 3/10 like a 10 and now they think everyone should be obligated to treat them like that

my ex-wife said yes after I proposed at a waffle house, it doesn't matter what restaurant or how expensive it is, it's about the person you're there with. if you take someone on a cheap date and they can't see past that to enjoy the person you are, you are dodging a bullet!
 
What goes around comes around. If you are unwilling to invest in dating, establish a relation of mutual respect and trust, then don't be surprised that you don't get what you want. When I dated, I treated her like I would like to be treated myself and we had a great time.

Perhaps, as a guy, I have the privilege that I don't have to take all these precautions women need to take simply to stay alive, be it in the dating game, or simply when I'm just walking home after a night out. Put yourself in her shoes and see how you fare.
 
Fair, though, there may be other reasons to consider:
knotjen said:
1. she's not available (involved, not interested in being involved).
2. she feels whatever the guy is about is too much of a mismatch for her, either right away or down the road.
3. she's afraid of meeting people through a zoo-themed or kink-themed website though maybe blinded by interest and curiosity early on.
4. the guy sent a "hi!" or "yo!" or some other greeting essentially requiring her to do the heavy lifting of conversation.
5. his message happened to arrive moments after 20 other guys turned her off as fast as possible. I personally try not to do that but it can be difficult at times as I'm sure you can probably imagine and likely appreciate, even though it isn't fair or kind.

Some of those apply to men and everyone else too.
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Fair enough, but I was not refering to zoo sites, but sites where people is expected to be about that.

I can take a non answering, ignoring, a yes or a no, but most answers needed decoding for me.

Since ouija is not my strong hold as neither are my social skills, my little experiment ended in "Beeing zoo, sex is solved for me, so don't think with your penis and look for a guy if you ever need human company"

With all respect for others choices.
 
saddlebum66 said:
Dude...if you want to go without, feel free. You obviously lack both people skills and a willingness to actually grow up. The world runs as it does.....Men have been inviting women to dinner literally since the first neanderthal threw a carcass on the ground in front of a potential mate....since that equation obviously works( it must....you're here), it isnt going to change for you. Accept it, or dont.

Most women like fancy eateries, but that doesnt mean thats a requirement....of course if you come on like an ape, and they get the idea you only want the dessert....well, Id hold out for a Ruth's or better, myself. Cheapskates get what they pay for. Treat her as she expects she SHOULD be treated, and youre likely to get a lot more.
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seems like the one still living in the stone age its you, women are capable of doign the same as a man, and just because it has been in a specific way before, dosent mean it has to be the same way now, or even that is a good way, back then women were treated as objects, even raped just because, should i do that since it was the neanderthal way?

If someone comes, demanding and expecting way more that what they can give, arguing that they "deserve it", good for them, im not gonna be their slave, feel free to pick any of those and give it your all for nothing in return, she will probably cheat with someone else cause she deserves more man or whatever.

And i will let you know, i got a fantastic boyfriend, by being nice, and finding someone that loves for who i am, not for what job i have, or for what house i have, or for what restaurants i bring him to
 
Mazikeen_x said:
this attitude is the whole problem actually, you treat a 3/10 like a 10 and now they think everyone should be obligated to treat them like that

my ex-wife said yes after I proposed at a waffle house, it doesn't matter what restaurant or how expensive it is, it's about the person you're there with. if you take someone on a cheap date and they can't see past that to enjoy the person you are, you are dodging a bullet!
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Did you misunderstand what I said? Because basically you just repeated it. But....treating a "3" like a "10" is expressing a fly in the ointment, bub...IF YOU think enough of a gal to ask her out, and youre already calculating the cost of getting into her pants, theres something wrong with you. Perhaps theres a reason why your ex is an ex?
Rating systems like that one were devised by 20-going-on-12 year-olds. Either you want to get to know the gal or you don't....its just that simple.

Most of the gals Ive dated have been happy when I've taken them to places I like. Only had once instance where I made a bad choice....she was allergic to seafood SEASONING....and the joint was "old-bay"- happy.
They are human beings, not cardboard cutouts with strategically placed holes in them.
 
xaranit436 said:
seems like the one still living in the stone age its you, women are capable of doign the same as a man, and just because it has been in a specific way before, dosent mean it has to be the same way now, or even that is a good way, back then women were treated as objects, even raped just because, should i do that since it was the neanderthal way?

If someone comes, demanding and expecting way more that what they can give, arguing that they "deserve it", good for them, im not gonna be their slave, feel free to pick any of those and give it your all for nothing in return, she will probably cheat with someone else cause she deserves more man or whatever.

And i will let you know, i got a fantastic boyfriend, by being nice, and finding someone that loves for who i am, not for what job i have, or for what house i have, or for what restaurants i bring him to
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If you dont want to pay for her dinner bud...dont ask her out. its JUST that simple.
You have a boyfriend? What are you complaining about, then? Or are you unhappy with the cost of cheating?
 
Mazikeen_x said:
this attitude is the whole problem actually, you treat a 3/10 like a 10 and now they think everyone should be obligated to treat them like that

my ex-wife said yes after I proposed at a waffle house, it doesn't matter what restaurant or how expensive it is, it's about the person you're there with. if you take someone on a cheap date and they can't see past that to enjoy the person you are, you are dodging a bullet!
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exactly, white knights all arround, behaving like slaves, crawling under her feet just to get a bit of their attention, and demanding everyone should be like that.

A relationship is a 2 way thing, both parties should bring the same. If someone comes searching for a relationship, expecting the other to pay for everything, thats a red flag already.
 
saddlebum66 said:
Did you misunderstand what I said? Because basically you just repeated it. But....treating a "3" like a "10" is expressing a fly in the ointment, bub...IF YOU think enough of a gal to ask her out, and youre already calculating the cost of getting into her pants, theres something wrong with you. Perhaps theres a reason why your ex is an ex?
Rating systems like that one were devised by 20-going-on-12 year-olds. Either you want to get to know the gal or you don't....its just that simple.

Most of the gals Ive dated have been happy when I've taken them to places I like. Only had once instance where I made a bad choice....she was allergic to seafood SEASONING....and the joint was "old-bay"- happy.
They are human beings, not cardboard cutouts with strategically placed holes in them.
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the reason my ex is an ex is because I got sick of being abused.. lol?

furthermore your points kind of fall completely flat as I have no interest in getting into anyones pants on a first date (project much?)

If you think she's special and want to take her somewhere nice that's great but for her to act like she's entitled to it is just spoiled and should be frowned upon
 
lonerguy420 said:
With so many dating apps and going out isn't really fun anymore, it seems hard to find something good. Hopefully I'll meet somebody here that is still sweet but with an open mind.
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If you're unable to find someone in real life what makes you think you'll find someone here where everyone is an avatar/alter ego?
 
Mazikeen_x said:
the reason my ex is an ex is because I got sick of being abused.. lol?

furthermore your points kind of fall completely flat as I have no interest in getting into anyones pants on a first date (project much?)

If you think she's special and want to take her somewhere nice that's great but for her to act like she's entitled to it is just spoiled and should be frowned upon
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exactly, this is it.
 
Mazikeen_x said:
the reason my ex is an ex is because I got sick of being abused.. lol?

furthermore your points kind of fall completely flat as I have no interest in getting into anyones pants on a first date (project much?)

If you think she's special and want to take her somewhere nice that's great but for her to act like she's entitled to it is just spoiled and should be frowned upon
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If the last is the issue, you're saying you picked badly? No, I dont project anything here...except the disapproval of bad manners...If hers are THAT bad, and you didnt notice before you asked her out, you share some of the blame...or, we're back to square one, and the little head was running the big head.
IF you were abused, you seem to be showing a track record here...I was too....but I learned what to look for, so it hasnt happened twice. Returning bad manners for bad manners is its own reward, innit?
 
saddlebum66 said:
If the last is the issue, you're saying you picked badly? No, I dont project anything here...except the disapproval of bad manners...If hers are THAT bad, and you didnt notice before you asked her out, you share some of the blame...or, we're back to square one, and the little head was running the big head.
IF you were abused, you seem to be showing a track record here...I was too....but I learned what to look for, so it hasnt happened twice. Returning bad manners for bad manners is its own reward, innit?
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you're not american are you?
 
saddlebum66 said:
What makes you think so? Cant be bothered checking back posts?
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no I'm not going to stalk your profile to find out where you live lol

what makes me think that is you thinking I picked poorly because a vast majority of american women have that exact attitude, and even if you do stoop down and cater to them like they're some sort of royalty they'll probably just cheat or leave
 
Mazikeen_x said:
no I'm not going to stalk your profile to find out where you live lol

what makes me think that is you thinking I picked poorly because a vast majority of american women have that exact attitude, and even if you do stoop down and cater to them like they're some sort of royalty they'll probably just cheat or leave
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A majority? Your interviewed all of them? Must be a busy man. In answer to your question, Yeah....13th generation American, bud. 1639, but it could go back further. Yours get here with the potato famine? Not all american men are assholes, and, no, a majority of american women think that way....if you're meeting that kind most often, you probably need to change your search parameters. 30 years or so of the I net hasnt changed the World....but thirty years of crummy parenting might be making a start.

In the interest of not having this thread pushed into the DF, I'm done...you kiddies can have the sand box.
 
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