Bestiality & Modern Dating

[Justalittleblue]

I am new to this community and wanted to pose a question about fetishes. I've noticed fetishes tend to be more based on life experiences than some kind of trait you're born with.
But bestiality seems different, I've often wondered if I'm attracted to it for the type of experience and emotions it offers, namely: raw lust & primal and animalistic desire.
The modern world of dating & relationships severely lacks these traits, especially since it rarely comes along with mutual trust and respect. Humans are similar to animals, but we have evolved in ways that I believe are harmful. Looking through history, various groups have tried and still try to sterilize sex. Many people suppress their feelings and end up ashamed for what, ultimately, are natural and healthy traits (I'd argure evolutionary traits, as well).

Meanwhile, it has also been harder to maintain genuine relationships with others; everyone being too busy, stressed, pandemic isolation, etc.

So as I search for genuine companionship and raw emotional traits, I wonder how much I was naturally pushed towards bestiality or how much I am just crazy and alone in feeling this way.
I would love to hear other people's opinions or perspectives on this

And this is why, in part, I am involved in the BDSM community. It's a lot easier to find people of a primal nature that are just more connected with other sides of themselves and are not as concerned with what society considers proper. The rest is because I like to get beat but, that is a story for a different platform ?

 

[slt4dd]

What a great discussion thread. I'm enjoying reading all the responses.

From my perspective I think we are predisposed. I didn't grow up around animals. I discovered it from a very brief incident with a dog at someone else's house. If one isn't interested I don't think being lonely is enough to make one interested. I'm not sure how one could be pushed if the inclination isn't there. If that makes any sense.

Someone a few responses back (my apologies for not remembering your user name) mentioned the US as the most sexualized country. In many ways that is true...the most sexualized and yet the most Puritan in it's judgement of what other people do. The archaic laws we have and the ones coming on the books about being gay or trans or anything that deviates from the man/woman paradigm. It's confusing and shameful all the same time to desire something beyond. There's the struggle. Justifying in our minds that it's ok to have these desires. Not only have them, but act on them when society as a whole tells us we're wrong.

Then dealing with it affecting human interaction and relationships. Who can you trust and/or who can you tell? I don't know the answer to that one. I feel like I'm in the right space to figure it out now.

 

[AppleDash]

Wonderful replies here. My journey through sexuality has been a confusing one. Growing up in a loving average middle-class family with a dog and no access to horses, I still experienced an attraction to the mares, something that only got stronger when reading this passage in Auel's The Valley of Horses, and spotting this Benetton add on billboards along the dual carriageways. That's why I think my attractions are very much innate and an expression of my love interests. The confusing bit was that back then, the Internet was hardly there, and as many, I thought I was the only one with those feelings in a society where you were still expected to find a nice girl, settle down, get married and have children.

Since then, I have been with a girlfriend, some mares and some female dogs, but the mares is where my heart lies. I haven't blocked the paths to girlfriends, but as an introvert person it is already difficult - may I say "neigh" on impossible" - to flirt with women even without my zoosexuality in the room. Or stable.

As a result, after my girlfriend and I broke up, I spent my 20s and 30s shying away from trying to get a girlfriend. I wouldn't know if they would be flirting with me anyway... Yet now, halfway my 40s, I now wonder whether it would be possible to find somebody who at least is not disgusted with my equine attractions. After all, I tried to ignore it, I tried to hide it, but the feelings only got stronger. You cannot get rid of something innate so here I am: hoping to find a girlfriend who could love me despite my equine love life, since having to keep it hidden from a human partner would be exhausting, not to mention dishonest.

 

[Renee]

To be desired by a strong male that has alpha traits is hot. Male dogs are able to cater to these needs. Simple as that. Not all women are into zoo of course, but those who are highlight the importance of this.
The 1st world society we live in is safe. These primal traits are not required any more in males.

Very interesting reply. I sure enjoyed reading it.

** I didn't notice the other replies after the one I quoted here, other than the very next one. So, I might have missed some good input.

Not only are we men using educated guesses to describe what women like about sex with male dogs, there's definitely going to be a spectrum of reasons, and it will vary from woman to woman.

Some of us have bottomed for other men, or animals, and I do think that helps give us some insight about the desire to be bred and taken in a way that is primal.

Safety matters though, and not necessarily from a tolerable amount of pain, but safety in knowing the intentions of the male doing the breeding. With dogs, there's no question of intentions. It is a desire for them to breed, to experience pleasure and release, and in general to do the whole mating process.

I suspect that there's lots of comfort in knowing the dog's intentions, that to be constantly begged by him and also pushed on is not scary.

Also, in 99.9% of those cases with a dog, the woman has an out and she is in control before being under him.

There won't be any later consequences to worry about if she needs to put off his advances. The next time he shows his desire to breed her, they can pick right back up where it stopped last time, and he'll breed her because it is one of the most satisfying and fundamental things for higher life forms to do.

With men, intentions are not always clear, or they can be mixed. Manipulation can be involved, and also rejecting advances can sometimes cause them to worry about consequences, even if just those are social. Some dominant men are actually manipulative men. Not ALL of them, but it's one reason I quick hooking up with men back in my 20's. I get more angry about fibs from men, or being led on, and possibly I was able to see that more back then than I could see being slightly misled by a woman.

I guess that leads back to an overarching disagreement between types of people as to whether safety or freedom is more important. In reality, most of us want a balance of the two, and probably leaning heavy towards the "freedom" side in the realm of sex.

 

[figorebo]

This is such an interesting question/topic, and unsurprisingly the responses are pretty split by gender. Basically all of the sexually-active men I know are thrilled by their sex lives. Compare that to: several of the sexually-active women I know have expressed being literally nauseated or terrified by theirs, and nearly all the women who aren't are at minimum disappointed. I find this to be true even within most human kink communities, so, to me, it's no surprise that women have started to look elsewhere.

 

[Meg97]

Sometimes I have same feelings. Maybe that's why I love wolves and I'm crazy about them. Wild instinct, social structure, specific behaviours. I'm catching myself about thinking that would be nice to be a female wolf and become a member of the pack. That feeling make me feel better before sleep. That's the reason I love contact with nature, trips to secluded places, woods and beaches. Luckily my partner have something wild, little piece of raw nature in human body. I'm happy I have someone who I can trust.

Meg

 

[topstud]

I've found the same. It seems we're in a dark corner of the kink and BDSM world - a switchy ex and I reconnected over her watching dog porn and wanting to "be degraded like that". Another grew up rural and having her dogs lick her was the most normal thing as was using her stuffed animals as sex dolls in various ways. Another grew up in LA and was open minded but hadn't had exposure to kinky things until we met and I opened her eyes to pleasure without guilt.

It's saddening to see people live life in front of a screen and develop their sexuality the same way. People are drifting further out of touch with themselves and the people around them, perhaps inadvertently delving deeper into the echo chambers of the internet. Sex on the internet goes through cycles, the various attempts to scrub the internet of types of porn and it's ancillary information.

Over the years I've found more raw lust and animalistic desire come out when playing with animals and with homosexual experiences though I'm more seeking the fun of sex than always getting to that primal point (most of the time), and don't have so many primal experiences with women (yet).

The sad side is the way I see porn shaping fetishes for many people. Look at the sex conversation app linked in my profile, Mōn. The vast majority of users are cuck centric males with a porn addiction and almost cookie cutter fantasy. I often wonder what they'd be into with more positive attention and sexual experience with women, perhaps with more Testosterone and self confidence as well.

I've used bestiality as more of a gauge of open mindedness with women than a quest for raw desire, though I've used amyl as an aid for achieving that level of lust with partners that's less of a shocking or perhaps off putting step in that direction.

really been feeling your points about everyone becoming distant and drained, it's like the basis of relations between the sexes has broken down and there is no trust anymore so there simply can't be the level of powerful raw feelings.

And there is a creeping badness in society which is generating so many drained people with cuck fantasies, it's not right.

 

[topstud]

This is such an interesting question/topic, and unsurprisingly the responses are pretty split by gender. Basically all of the sexually-active men I know are thrilled by their sex lives. Compare that to: several of the sexually-active women I know have expressed being literally nauseated or terrified by theirs, and nearly all the women who aren't are at minimum disappointed. I find this to be true even within most human kink communities, so, to me, it's no surprise that women have started to look elsewhere.

It's funny that you say that, the farther I go in life the more I've been feeling that a simple society like existed in previous ages, with 1 man to 1 woman, really is the best for making people happy.

We just seem so past that now, it's sad. And I'm not trying to take anyone's happiness with their animals away!

 

[K9Evangelist]

I'm more suggesting that modern society as a whole seems to suppress fun aspects of sex like passion, desire, and more primalistic tendencies. For me personally, I grew up in a community where sex is only meant for re-populating the earth and shrouded by shame and fear. The U.S. was built and has developed on these more prudish tendencies, and I'd argue is one of the most reserved countries in the world conerning sex. But I feel that this more ridgid view of sex drove me to seek bestiality, something outside of the box and ultimately more primal.

Over the years I've talked to many many women about this and have a few theories.

I think for many women the interest is innate, part of their nature. It just takes the right catalyst to awaken it. The women I've talked to tend to fall into one of the following groups.
1. Those who said their interest in dogs developed right along with puberty.
2. Those who had never thought about it until they saw a picture, video or chat about it. For those there are the following reactions.
a. They found it was an instant turn-on or...
b. They were initially grossed out even repulsed by the idea. Then they found they couldn't stop thinking about it and became
curious or...
c. They either have no interest or don't overcome their replusion.

So we have a gradient from 100% predisposed to 0% interest. Similar to the gradient from being 100% gay to 100% hetero.

I've also talked to many women who were raised in a repressive environment. Many of them find having sex with a dog to be very liberating. It sets them free to fully experience their female sexuality. One woman told me she hated when people referred to it as woman/dog sex. She felt it was purely female/male sex with species not being a factor.

I know one thing, it's complex just like almost all aspects of the human condition.

 

[jhallec3875]

I'm a male and when I went through puberty, and as many of us do, I found porn. Months later, I noticed myself gravitating towards bestiality videos. Since, I've grown much more of a fondness and attraction to animals to the point where sometimes all I think about is animals when I am dreaming about my future with animals.

I have had some experience with humans, but never with animals. At first, the idea that I could relate with an animal in such a way disgusted me as I knew it would be sorely disapproved by humanity - that is until I found this site. There are those out there who care and "crave" relations with an animal like I do, man or woman.

I don't know about you all, but knowing there are people like me is a huge weight and a huge "shame" lifted off my shoulder.

 

[K9Evangelist]

Over the years I've talked to many many women about this and have a few theories.

I think for many women the interest is innate, part of their nature. It just takes the right catalyst to awaken it. The women I've talked to tend to fall into one of the following groups.
1. Those who said their interest in dogs developed right along with puberty.
2. Those who had never thought about it until they saw a picture, video or chat about it. For those there are the following reactions.
a. They found it was an instant turn-on or...
b. They were initially grossed out even repulsed by the idea. Then they found they couldn't stop thinking about it and became
curious or...
c. They either have no interest or don't overcome their replusion.

So we have a gradient from 100% predisposed to 0% interest. Similar to the gradient from being 100% gay to 100% hetero.

I've also talked to many women who were raised in a repressive environment. Many of them find having sex with a dog to be very liberating. It sets them free to fully experience their female sexuality. One woman told me she hated when people referred to it as woman/dog sex. She felt it was purely female/male sex with species not being a factor.

I know one thing, it's complex just like almost all aspects of the human condition.

I'd like to add that many if not most women I've talked to are very relieved to discover they're not the only one, and that there's nothing "wrong" with them.

 

[edomsd]

I've finally realized life's too short not to have what you want meaning I'm done settling for women not into bestiality. Wasted too many years without it. Unfortunately I met and my boy played with many women into bestiality but I was never ready to settle. Now that I am, way more difficult to meet others due to lack of ways. I met so many with Craigslist and backpage.

Just don't be creepy, or pushy, or annoying or desperate. It'll happen. I just got divorced from non zoo and ready. Will see.

 

[Zebraman76]

Great thread, lots of interesting perspectives!

 

[BestUnderneath]

I am new to this community and wanted to pose a question about fetishes. I've noticed fetishes tend to be more based on life experiences than some kind of trait you're born with.
But bestiality seems different, I've often wondered if I'm attracted to it for the type of experience and emotions it offers, namely: raw lust & primal and animalistic desire.
The modern world of dating & relationships severely lacks these traits, especially since it rarely comes along with mutual trust and respect. Humans are similar to animals, but we have evolved in ways that I believe are harmful. Looking through history, various groups have tried and still try to sterilize sex. Many people suppress their feelings and end up ashamed for what, ultimately, are natural and healthy traits (I'd argure evolutionary traits, as well).

Meanwhile, it has also been harder to maintain genuine relationships with others; everyone being too busy, stressed, pandemic isolation, etc.

So as I search for genuine companionship and raw emotional traits, I wonder how much I was naturally pushed towards bestiality or how much I am just crazy and alone in feeling this way.
I would love to hear other people's opinions or perspectives on this

Unfortunately for women they have to be so cautious with dating when it comes to safety, they always have to consider all the angles a male can be playing, I'm sure it takes much of the spontaneity and passion out of those early exciting days when you're driven by lust but you have to deny yourself in the interests of common sense and safety.

Then after that phase you have daily lives full of stress and drama to discuss, scheduling, interpersonal conflicts, all the natural frictions of relationships.

Having recently started exploring my sexuality and using Grindr I'm absolutely shocked at the difference for hookups, dudes are still animals at their core and their equivalent of dogs sniffing bums before mounting is DM'ing a dick pic, getting an offer of a blow job and meeting 20 minutes later then fucking with little discussion, one guy thought something was suspicious when I offered him a tea and tried to have a conversation before we started, lol.

Honestly, after I got things out of my system and figured out my headspace when it comes to my sexuality I've not opened the app again, too tempting to have sex available on demand virtually instantly.

Meanwhile I've invested hundreds hours of my life in the process of courting and dating women, I mean, I still prefer women and it's often worth the effort and I understand the caution needed with modern dating and I've never been pushy when things are going too slow.

I think most humans have this animal nature still, besides safety we've also put all these societal graces in place and complicated everything with modern life.

So in summary, if you want animalistic passion dating humans, be a gay guy .