A push to remove personal ads advertising first time

[pes]

What do you think?

I do not share the same double standard. But the majority of people here worship women regardless of who they are, what they are, what they look like or what they do.
It literally does not matter as long as the person has a hole in the front. So applying that knowledge explains the discrepancy.

 

[secretsnep]

This is a message that I see from everyone trying to give as an excuse to why them feel it's ok. If you truly want to experience it for yourself, then adopt your own. Not that I would recommend it for you considering if sex is the only thing on your mind with animals.

I mean... by getting your own animal? Not saying I disagree with your sentiment but that's a pretty obvious answer, lol

this would be the obvious answer but not everyone can afford a dog, not everyone's apartment, allows dogs, or any number of reasons they cant own a dog.

 

[jimmer999]

this would be the obvious answer but not everyone can afford a dog, not everyone's apartment, allows dogs, or any number of reasons they cant own a dog.

There are a number of legitimate reasons one couldn't own a dog, but there are also a million bullshit excuses, and living in an apartment is the most common one I hear. In the USA at least, it's ridiculously easy to get an ESA letter and keep a dog in any apartment. When I hear "waaa I can't have a dog, my apartment doesn't allow pets" I know for certain that they didn't even bother to look it up.

 

[jimmer999]

Now I'm going to express an unpopular opinion, from a neutral point of view.
I agree that beggars are assholes. But why only men?
I find it strange that almost everyone agrees that men who look online for owners of dogs for sex are assholes (I agree on it), but at the same time women who look online for dogs for sex are viewed with approval and admiration. Isn't that a double standard?
What do you think?

Thirsty men will give women a pass for just about anything. I don't see it any differently myself.

 

[secretsnep]

There are a number of legitimate reasons one couldn't own a dog, but there are also a million bullshit excuses, and living in an apartment is the most common one I hear. In the USA at least, it's ridiculously easy to get an ESA letter and keep a dog in any apartment. When I hear "waaa I can't have a dog, my apartment doesn't allow pets" I know for certain that they didn't even bother to look it up.

point still stands

 

[jimmer999]

point still stands

I think we both made a point. In my experience, a high percentage of people who say they can't own a dog simply aren't willing to make the sacrifice.

 

[MashaSobaka]

men will give women a pass for just about anything

I'll forgive them for tearing up thousands of dollars' worth of mattresses and beds.

 

[beta7]

this would be the obvious answer but not everyone can afford a dog, not everyone's apartment, allows dogs, or any number of reasons they cant own a dog.

If you can't afford a dog, you have other priorities that should be in focus rather then seeking this specific type of sexual satisfaction.

 

[TFenrir]

Well, I stand with my position that it's good to have non-eng sections to be able to talk to people in your mother language. But I really don't like the ads thing. The desperation to find owners and the "first time" are problematics. I agree with reformulations, but it seems impossible.

The mod part it's easier: help the mods reporting things against the rules you see. I do that in my mother language section. You don't need to be a mod to help modding.

 

[Doggyboy22]

If the personal ads section was nuked it would just spill over into the rest of the forum, and if there was a rule against seeking owners I imagine that would be a pain in the arse to moderate. At least with how things are currently it's relatively self-contained.

 

[flukeofnature]

I suppose one solution might be to make the personals section an opt-in, so people who want to use it can do, while keeping it hidden from anyone who doesn't

 

[TheGreatOz]

So here I go writing this as if someone like me carries any weight in the conversation

1. Removing the personals section will cause a moderation nightmare. it will move to other parts of the forum and not all in the same place, or start happening under existing threads making it even more difficult.
Just kill the egregious threads in the current personals (I.e. anything that looks like actual trafficking) and swing the ban hammer when necessary (judging by the amount of red tags I seen the mods are very proficient)

2. Making the forum English only and using moderation as a reason is BS, browsers have built in translators for a reason, it’s not like people are speaking in a secret code just to exclude you.

3. GATEKEEPING- this feels like more of an argument of “I Dont want these curious people around my lifestyle” (que up angry keyboard warriors that don’t read the rest). That’s a great way to kill the community, make sure it never grows and make the outcasts vindictive.
Also to a previous comment it’s black and white, you are or you aren’t, Some people have the opportunity and means to live the lifestyle all the time, others don’t and only get to experience it in small amounts, the same with nearly every other “fetish”

I’m not saying to absolutely welcome everyone with open arms. With any fetish/lifestyle there are some mentally unstable people that should not be part of the respective community.


Now as for me cause I’m sure some of you will click on my profile and see how new it is and how little interaction I have had. I’m 42, I’ve had some experiences in my younger years, I’ve always wanted more but never had any one to talk about it or experience it with due to its nature.



Engage with me like I’m a human having a civil conversation, I’m not your political opponent, just someone who wants the best for everyone

 

[Zarky]

I'd prefer to easily know what their intention really are.

 

[beta7]

So here I go writing this as if someone like me carries any weight in the conversation

1. Removing the personals section will cause a moderation nightmare. it will move to other parts of the forum and not all in the same place, or start happening under existing threads making it even more difficult.
Just kill the egregious threads in the current personals (I.e. anything that looks like actual trafficking) and swing the ban hammer when necessary (judging by the amount of red tags I seen the mods are very proficient)

2. Making the forum English only and using moderation as a reason is BS, browsers have built in translators for a reason, it’s not like people are speaking in a secret code just to exclude you.

3. GATEKEEPING- this feels like more of an argument of “I Dont want these curious people around my lifestyle” (que up angry keyboard warriors that don’t read the rest). That’s a great way to kill the community, make sure it never grows and make the outcasts vindictive.
Also to a previous comment it’s black and white, you are or you aren’t, Some people have the opportunity and means to live the lifestyle all the time, others don’t and only get to experience it in small amounts, the same with nearly every other “fetish”

I’m not saying to absolutely welcome everyone with open arms. With any fetish/lifestyle there are some mentally unstable people that should not be part of the respective community.


Now as for me cause I’m sure some of you will click on my profile and see how new it is and how little interaction I have had. I’m 42, I’ve had some experiences in my younger years, I’ve always wanted more but never had any one to talk about it or experience it with due to its nature.



Engage with me like I’m a human having a civil conversation, I’m not your political opponent, just someone who wants the best for everyone

Your opinion is too long. *pfft

 

[TheGreatOz]

Your opinion is too long. *pfft

Lol

 

[secretsnep]

I suppose one solution might be to make the personals section an opt-in, so people who want to use it can do, while keeping it hidden from anyone who doesn't

yeah i like that better than remove completely

 

[secretsnep]

If you can't afford a dog, you have other priorities that should be in focus rather then seeking this specific type of sexual satisfaction.

just because people are broke, that doesnt mean a good time cannot be had

 

[MashaSobaka]

Your opinion is too long. *pfft

This is a forum, not a chat platform.

 

[Coles]

Last time you guys nuked personals you deleted the active threads in the only Australian forum subsection on the site. You also left old trash posts behind. It feels like you guys get so worked up about the optics or possibility of an issue, you overreact and make it worse.

 

[Zooflyer]

1. Yes, let's get rid of them.
2. No, I'm a degenerate and wanna fuck someone else's animals.

If your intent was to give us all a prime example of what a false dichotomy fallacy is, you did a great job. Leave absolutely no room for nuance. Wonderful.

 

[ikanon]

Export the personal's section to ZV2 / ZCA. A rising number of new members request a personals section there.

 

[Zarky]

Export the personal's section to ZV2 / ZCA. A rising number of new members request a personals section there.

At the risk of asking a dumb question. What's ZV2 ZCA?

 

[ikanon]

At the risk of asking a dumb question. What's ZV2 ZCA?

The site that (unjustified) has the most famous animal porn section on the net!

 

[ZooDogLover320]

Lmfao you fully went all "I wanna make a CHANGE" then backed down hard when the mods actually proposed nuking the entire personals section.

 

[pes]

2. Making the forum English only and using moderation as a reason is BS, browsers have built in translators for a reason, it’s not like people are speaking in a secret code just to exclude you.

For that reason you as the one posting the comment can go and use the translator once for everybody else and post in English.
Instead of making everyone else translate it individually.
Also no, not every browser has a built in translator and also no, you do not want to be sending the content of this site to google to constantly translate for your own security.

 

[SxaBeast]

Why?
If you talk to someone you like on the forum, you can do the courtship ritual in PM in private.
You do not need to advertise how big of a cock you have in the public.

Bb-but it's Soooo big!/s

 

[SxaBeast]

By becoming owners and taking responsibility for and loving an animal. If all they want is to feel and animal dick then they can get a dildo.

Or a bf. We are all animals too

 

[piperthedog]

I see a lot of people making good points to keep the personals section, and I feel like all of my reasons were covered.
It’s such a fucking shame that the mods haven’t actually taken them into consideration, and still appear to be set on “we’d nuke it if we could”… It’s a ploy to gatekeep disguised as an attempt at cleanup.
You already tried purging it and you fucked up royally. If that was really the intention then you would have done a better job cleaning up the first time.

 

[beta7]

From my perspective, if the personals go away then I don't see anything stopping people from PM'n folks to arrange meetings. The focus or objective, atleast to my to my understanding, stop supporting/providing a platform for obvious thirst simps.

Is that not what the objective is?

 

[secretsnep]

I see a lot of people making good points to keep the personals section, and I feel like all of my reasons were covered.
It’s such a fucking shame that the mods haven’t actually taken them into consideration, and still appear to be set on “we’d nuke it if we could”… It’s a ploy to gatekeep disguised as an attempt at cleanup.
You already tried purging it and you fucked up royally. If that was really the intention then you would have done a better job cleaning up the first time.

i didnt even know about that :/