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Question_Guy2

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Nobody cares about animals in porn section. Lots of the videos show clearly bad techinques that harm or straight up need tranqualized animal and people don't even realize there is something wrong. Huge part of content there is comercial porn that abuses animal as forced actors.
There are no vidos with stright up murdered or tourtured animals, but these vids do still have signs of abuse.
It is not fine at all
 
Question_Guy2 said:
Nobody cares about animals in porn section. Lots of the videos show clearly bad techinques that harm or straight up need tranqualized animal and people don't even realize there is something wrong. Huge part of content there is comercial porn that abuses animal as forced actors.
There are no vidos with stright up murdered or tourtured animals, but these vids do still have signs of abuse.
It is not fine at all
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Youre telling us things we already know. Theres a thread based around it....try reporting what you find.
 
MishaCZ said:
Yup. But it's not like nothing is done against that. Keep reporting, admins will get rid of the abusive stuff.
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But the amount of it is terrific
why there are no mods that review all threads in porn section?

Simple process of flagging every new thread to be checked and leaving mods with info:
"want do something productive that's gonna help community empty the list of thread to review"

how many mods do we have here?
and how many new files and threads are posted daily?

Even if we would not have enough mods there are plenty of people that are here for long time that can become "revisor"
all we need is ZT support and pick the right people based on their post and reputation
 
There's very few content with actually drugged animals and def not on this forum - you're sure to be wrong if you see it everywhere. From your other posts I know you're both inexperienced and don't even want to have experience because you mostly think it's wrong anyway - so how can you possibly think you can judge stuff like that ?
 
We dont have many mods, the abuse is a known issue, the mods actively rectify any wrongs they come across. Theres probably 1 mod for every ten thousand of us. The threads are one thing, those can be watched but the vids posted are subposts, things that we get so often that you can't possibly hope for them to keep up!
I'm not telling you to stop being bothered, on the contrary, I want you to remain bothered, I want you to channel your bother towards the posters of bad content. The mods here may not be plentiful but they are responsive to reports. You can help by reporting. Otherwise you're only becoming part of the problem by complaining and giving them more on their plate. This will always be a problem... no matter how many mods and restrictions and multistage checks you place. HELP US FIGHT THIS or stfu
 
Ookami said:
There's very few content with actually drugged animals and def not on this forum - you're sure to be wrong if you see it everywhere. From your other posts I know you're both inexperienced and don't even want to have experience because you mostly think it's wrong anyway - so how can you possibly think you can judge stuff like that ?
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saddlebum66 said:
Youre not going to change the World overnight, bub.
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Trying to make a change is never bad unless you try. I will report any post I consider abusive and try help every way I can.
 
Why do you even look at the porn section as a sceptic? Hahah
But honestly, it's not that much bad porn here i think. At least not the threads i checked out.

Also you probably won't find those people who are only here for porn in this discussion 😅 i assume the people who are into these questionable things often aren't very talkative here
 
chrispbacon said:
Why do you even look at the porn section as a sceptic? Hahah
But honestly, it's not that much bad porn here i think. At least not the threads i checked out.

Also you probably won't find those people who are only here for porn in this discussion 😅 i assume the people who are into these questionable things often aren't very talkative here
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On the contrary theyre the ones that post the videos... so theyre active alright... there is a problem with the bad shit here. But its always gonna be a problem
 
There are 11 admins. I do not think all of the accounts do the moderation though simply based on which mod accounts I see being online. There is definitely not enough mods here to review everything. Flagging each thread is not going to help.
 
pes said:
There are 11 admins. I do not think all of the accounts do the moderation though simply based on which mod accounts I see being online. There is definitely not enough mods here to review everything. Flagging each thread is not going to help.
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Then we need to inform more people what sexual practices are bad and make'em report more posts. Giving single nothing mattering badage for regulary reporting and helping community would be helpfull. I could set a group here that would be dedicated to be dive into threads and try to report as much content as possible. Without taking action we wont ever see better future for zoo community.
 
Question_Guy2 said:
Then we need to inform more people what sexual practices are bad and make'em report more posts. Giving single nothing mattering badage for regulary reporting and helping community would be helpfull. I could set a group here that would be dedicated to be dive into threads and try to report as much content as possible. Without taking action we wont ever see better future for zoo community.
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That is the exact reason why I set up this thread:

The abusive porn cleanup project

In the past few weeks I have reported an alarming number of abusive porn videos from the porn section. 90% of them were subsequently removed after a moderator reviewed them and agreed that the content violated animal abuse the rules of this forum. Over my existence on Zooville I have personally...
www.zoovilleforum.net www.zoovilleforum.net
 
I was thinking about setting up a group for the reviewers but I did not want to pressure people into taking up parts of the forum to review. I do not think that would work.
We also should not report as much as possible because not everything that seems a little questionable is worthy reporting. You need to assess the content as objectively as possible.
 
Well this is the reason I don't watch porn on this thing also I got my own animals so I don't need to but I figure at least 70% of the people here are just here to fuck a animal and get the rocks off
 
Look, theoretically this is a good ambition I'm behind, too. But opening a thread like this and just screaming rape to that extend here is utter bullshit - either it's trolling or just defining anything as rape where you can't see the written consent of the animal. I do know abusive content and if such stuff gets posted here it's deleted pretty fast unless it's questionable because you can't always tell abuse - especially if the explicit parts get cut out.
 
Ookami said:
Look, theoretically this is a good ambition I'm behind, too. But opening a thread like this and just screaming rape to that extend here is utter bullshit - either it's trolling or just defining anything as rape where you can't see the written consent of the animal. I do know abusive content and if such stuff gets posted here it's deleted pretty fast unless it's questionable because you can't always tell abuse - especially if the explicit parts get cut out.
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Yes you're right not always content has clear straigt up abuse that can be reported after few glances. We need to create more specific set of rules and guidelines. We need to work with basic rules of court like In dubio pro reo-we are not sure of guilt=somebody is innocent

anyways I'll be working on this for next few days at least. I hope it wont end up with lack of dedication from my side. Let's see whats happen.
 
Question_Guy2 said:
Yes you're right not always content has clear straigt up abuse that can be reported after few glances. We need to create more specific set of rules and guidelines. We need to work with basic rules of court like In dubio pro reo-we are not sure of guilt=somebody is innocent

anyways I'll be working on this for next few days at least. I hope it wont end up with lack of dedication from my side. Let's see whats happen.
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You are going to be largely wasting your time. The rules on this website will not change unless you have something really impactful. Take a look into this thread for reference: https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/fake-cum-and-rules.24077/
The current rules already forbid animal abuse and making the process more complicated is not going to help.
 
Ookami said:
you're sure to be wrong if you see it everywhere. From your other posts I know you're both inexperienced and don't even want to have experience because you mostly think it's wrong anyway - so how can you possibly think you can judge stuff like that ?
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This is sadly far too common in the newer generation of zoo's. He doesn't have any experience, doesn't know what he's talking about or what he's looking at, but chooses to see abuse wherever he possibly can and vilify anyone he can. He even brags about getting as many videos removed as he can. People like @Question_Guy2 are almost just as much a cancer to the zoo community as the actual abusers are.
 
barksalot said:
This is sadly far too common in the newer generation of zoo's. He doesn't have any experience, doesn't know what he's talking about or what he's looking at, but chooses to see abuse wherever he possibly can and vilify anyone he can. He even brags about getting as many videos removed as he can. People like @Question_Guy2 are almost just as much a cancer to the zoo community as the actual abusers are.
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For right now I'm sort of just watching this guy and seeing what he does. It definitely is interesting that he essentially went from "I'm skeptical about zoo, what are your moral justifications?" to "I'm wanting everyone here to rally against abusive material." But in the first thread he created a lot of us did push the notion that it's okay as long as it's not abusive and the animal gets to decide whether or not they want to be involved in sex, and linked him towards a lot of guides and references which elevates this. Maybe Mr. Question here took a thorough look at all of our suggested reading material and spent time reading about a healthy view of zoophilia.

Looking back back in all of the report since Mr. Question joined on 03/02/2021 (Or, 02/03/2021 for everyone outside of the U.S.) he's reported 1 whole video. A video in a thread which I personally removed in it's entirety, due to the dog being sexually mishandled in almost every single video uploaded. I even thanked him for reporting the video via a notification after I removed it. Thus far, I don't where he "brags about getting as many videos removed as he can" unless I've completely missed something, and if so point me towards that direction.

So far I don't see Mr. Question as cancer. Just young and naïve. But hey, if we as a community can turn someone who was once a skeptic of zoophilia and their own feelings towards it, into someone with a positive outlook on our lifestyle. Someone who wants to learn about what a healthy zoosexual relationship entails, I think we should pat ourselves on the back. For moral and religious reasons I used to be skeptical too. It was reading the philosophical works of Peter Singer and other non-bias literature that eased my skepticism about zoophilia and bestiality when I was a lot younger, which lead me to accepting myself and my sexuality by the age of 16-17.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
For right now I'm sort of just watching this guy and seeing what he does. It definitely is interesting that he essentially went from "I'm skeptical about zoo, what are your moral justifications?" to "I'm wanting everyone here to rally against abusive material." But in the first thread he created a lot of us did push the notion that it's okay as long as it's not abusive and the animal gets to decide whether or not they want to be involved in sex, and linked him towards a lot of guides and references which elevates this. Maybe Mr. Question here took a thorough look at all of our suggested reading material and spent time reading about a healthy view of zoophilia.

Looking back back in all of the report since Mr. Question joined on 03/02/2021 (Or, 02/03/2021 for everyone outside of the U.S.) he's reported 1 whole video. A video in a thread which I personally removed in it's entirety, due to the dog being sexually mishandled in almost every single video uploaded. I even thanked him for reporting the video via a notification after I removed it. Thus far, I don't where he "brags about getting as many videos removed as he can" unless I've completely missed something, and if so point me towards that direction.

So far I don't see Mr. Question as cancer. Just young and naïve. But hey, if we as a community can turn someone who was once a skeptic of zoophilia and their own feelings towards it, into someone with a positive outlook on our lifestyle. Someone who wants to learn about what a healthy zoosexual relationship entails, I think we should pat ourselves on the back. For moral and religious reasons I used to be skeptical too. It was reading the philosophical works of Peter Singer and other non-bias literature that eased my skepticism about zoophilia and bestiality when I was a lot younger, which lead me to accepting myself and my sexuality by the age of 16-17.
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Fascinating origin story. I'd like to know what it was about that piece of literature that changed your mind so.
 
Centar said:
Fascinating origin story. I'd like to know what it was about that piece of literature that changed your mind so.
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Well, when I was younger, like in my teens, I used to be very religious. I've always had a lust for animals since around the start of puberty (like many zoos do.) I used to be under the notion that sex with animals was automatically abuse/rape and an affront to God himself. I felt guilty that I was attracted to animals because when I was younger I equated Bestiality to equaling Rape, because I didn't know any better. Around 15-16 years of age is when I completely lost my faith in religion. By no longer believing myself to be born inherently in sin and amoral by the perception of God, I started having more faith in myself. I sought to know my own feelings, emotions, and current ignorance. I no longer saw myself as a sheep apart of a flock, but as an individual, while still imperfect, but an individual nonetheless.

Once this barrier had been lifted off of my shoulders I started to question why I thought of bestiality as akin to rape. So of my own volition I researched the topic of bestiality with a newly found secular worldview looking for non-biased resources. One of the first pieces of material I found was Peter Singer's Heavy Petting. Where he went into length about why our current view of bestiality comes from a completely illogical worldview. Namely of Judeo-Christian values. Piece by piece he logically tore down the erroneous moral objections to bestiality (if the animal appears to be enjoying themselves.) It really did open my eyes towards my own feelings towards the topic as a whole. Shortly thereafter I browsed the wiki article about zoophilia which I was surprised to find very helpful and heavily informational. This led me to finding guides to safely have sex with animals, and guides to how to have a sexual relationship that is of mutual enjoyment.

Eventually I met some awesome people that were experienced with zoophilia and bestiality and with their friendship and mentorship I became the zoo I am today.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
For right now I'm sort of just watching this guy and seeing what he does. It definitely is interesting that he essentially went from "I'm skeptical about zoo, what are your moral justifications?" to "I'm wanting everyone here to rally against abusive material." But in the first thread he created a lot of us did push the notion that it's okay as long as it's not abusive and the animal gets to decide whether or not they want to be involved in sex, and linked him towards a lot of guides and references which elevates this. Maybe Mr. Question here took a thorough look at all of our suggested reading material and spent time reading about a healthy view of zoophilia.

Looking back back in all of the report since Mr. Question joined on 03/02/2021 (Or, 02/03/2021 for everyone outside of the U.S.) he's reported 1 whole video. A video in a thread which I personally removed in it's entirety, due to the dog being sexually mishandled in almost every single video uploaded. I even thanked him for reporting the video via a notification after I removed it. Thus far, I don't where he "brags about getting as many videos removed as he can" unless I've completely missed something, and if so point me towards that direction.

So far I don't see Mr. Question as cancer. Just young and naïve. But hey, if we as a community can turn someone who was once a skeptic of zoophilia and their own feelings towards it, into someone with a positive outlook on our lifestyle. Someone who wants to learn about what a healthy zoosexual relationship entails, I think we should pat ourselves on the back. For moral and religious reasons I used to be skeptical too. It was reading the philosophical works of Peter Singer and other non-bias literature that eased my skepticism about zoophilia and bestiality when I was a lot younger, which lead me to accepting myself and my sexuality by the age of 16-17.
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Hmm, I'm not sure how to multiquote, if that is even a thing on this forum but I was referring to "If I report thing and it's getting teleted I consider it as wining battle. As a single pearson I wont do much of a change but at least I wont be passive." in post #13 above.

So wait, you're telling me this guy has only been here a few days, and now feels qualified to write social policy? That right there adds to my distrust of this persons judgement. "We need to create more specific set of rules and guidelines. We need to work with basic rules of court like In dubio pro reo-we are not sure of guilt=somebody is innocent ... anyways I'll be working on this for next few days at least." Post #22

Don't get me wrong I applaud his enthusiasm and noble values. What scares me though is how quickly a vocal minority can take over, a zealot with a cause is far more powerful than a sage with wisdom. Thankfully this forum seems to have some very sensible people in control, but when it comes to the fervor that quickly builds around vilifying others, things get out of hand quickly.

And unfortunately I can't really relate to anyone's "origin story" as I never had one. I've always just been zoo and been relatively ok with it. Everyone's journey is different, maybe I'm just leary of people who's journey begins with "hey I found this really cool thing on the internet, who needs life experience when google and youtube will tell me I know more than everyone else"
 
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