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Zoosexual It is part of the LGBT movement?

I've talked about this before, this was a very sad and useless attempt at gaining inclusion by ZNA (Zoophiles of North America) which ironically ended up having their head Chair member I think, Sapho, trying to "educate" kids about zoophilia and creating massive personal confusion among children on Ticktok, kids who loved their dogs like any other kid were suddenly being convinced they were "zoophiles" and that they needed to wave their newly designed zoo flag proudly! WTF. Then Sapho got doxed as a fucking pedo (big surprise) which unravelled the whole thing, and as far as I'm concerned that was great karma because this shitstorm was born out of a purely shit idea in the first place. If anyone thinks anti-zoo sentiment is all about us poor zoos just not being understood and accepted, they need to try taking a step back away from their anthropocentric, selfish thinking and look at the bigger picture. This isn't about us. The reality is this is mainly about the animals. They are victims in many cases. They are fetishized, objectified and coerced in most cases at best. Anyone with just a moderate amount of understanding of canine and equine behavior and mating habits, nonverbal cues can tell that the way most, yes most, so called zoos on this forum and much darker places like FORBIDDEN_WEBSITE! (which everyone loves promoting here) treat their nonhuman partners is abusive, coercive or disrespectful or all of the above. We've got the rampant unintentional and intentional abuse throughout the "community" by clueless zoos who refuse to study and understand the behavior and nonverbal communication of their chosen species, and of course the zoosadists, combined with the religious bigots, and the people who view all nonhuman species as little children which makes us equal to pedos (which Sapho helped solidify, great job 👍)... it's obvious that the only zoo flags that should be waving around are those encouraging people within the community at large to START FUCKING LIVING UP TO THE WORD ZOOPHILE AND ZETA which by the way stands for "Zoophiles for the Ethical Treatment of Animals", a word that so many "zoos" (more like fetishists and other animal users who objectify them) claim to identify with, even though ironically one of its principles is the discouragement of fetishism and objectification of nonhuman animals.

(Que the idiotic "zooier than thou" arguments from all the "zoos" who can't think of anything but themselves, their feelings and their sexual wants!)

Plus, the whole idea of making zoo legal is equally anthropocentric, careless, selfish bullshit. No system of law and law enforcement on earth run by humans could or would ever be able to, or would ever want to, protect all of the animals being abused after such a law is passed. It would be impossible, which anyone aware of the current situation can clearly see. The decision to start this movement was rooted in a very biased perspective perpetuated by a personal desire for personal sexual freedom, with very little thought for the wellbeing of nonhuman animals in general. Ever notice that basically the only areas of the world where bestiality is legal is where they don't give a shit about nonhuman welfare? There's reasons for that.

Bottom line is nothing will ever change (for the better) for zoos and nonhuman animals everywhere until that anthropocentric delusion of inequality in the minds of non-zoos and the minds of those who call themselves zoos is corrected. Who knows how many hundreds of years the bulk of humanity is away from that.

I'm not even going to follow this thread so don't bother replying to me, I'm so fed up with the rampant stupidity.
 
Well, L is for lesbian, G is for gay, B is for bisexual and T is for trans. Though these groups are pretty well represented on this form, but don't directly equate with Zoosexuality. Now, if you were to say, tack on to that string of letters a Q or a +, well in my mind now were cooking partner! Zoosexuality is inherently queer. Even if zoo-ish tenacitys one day turns out to be common as fuz on a malamute's ass, then we would just fall under the +.
With all that said nobody gets to own a identity, and nobody sure as hell gets to own your or my identity. Laugh in their face next time, because anyone who thinks otherwise is a goddamn fool.
 
"LGBT people" (simply someone who is gay) and "LGBT movement" (pro-gay political activists) are two different groups of people, with some overlap obviously. One can be gay and also zoo, just look around. One can even be gay for only one species. It's hard to gauge how LGBT people honestly feel about zoophilia, as the LGBT movement notoriously doesn't like to bring it up and is swift to shut down any discourse on it that suggests anything but unilateral rejection and revulsion.

I personally don't think there should be a Z in LGBT, primarily because LGBT is about sex/gender and Z is about species. They can mix and match, and be supportive of each other, but the goals are ultimately different.
 
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I hate x why the hell are people talking about this there. That's how it starts , next thing you know some it'll be a conspiracy about how we support isis.
 
OffgridK9lover said:
well before it disappeared up its own ass and whent to the realm of insanity it was just LGB, been a steady down hill from there.
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I almost wonder if some of what you're talking about isn't more just modern social media culture being the kind of stuff that eats its own container.
Being able to form alliances and support each other at least on the macro was and will continue to be critical for any of us queer folk to have any kind of decent rank in society. I feel a large part of why the L, G and B done so well in the last 30ish years was because they by in large understood they had a common goal.
 
OffgridK9lover said:
Well they had a point, they had a specific request, which was reasonable and understandable, then they allowed them selfs to become consumed by what ever this new defective ideology is that is ceaselessly pushing the envelope and demanding more extreme things.

Basically the more attention whorish activists couldn't accept the win. So in that sense I view the Sane LGB types as much the victims of the current thing, but to many allowed them selfs to be silenced as it gets burned down, more are speaking out on it but sadly I think the activists have pushed tolerance fatigue over the edge, and we all suffer for it.

Every thing after the B has goals that are not aligned with the original ask, there in lies the issue that the LGB failed to recognize in time.

Due to this, it is too far gone IMO they need to rehash and create their own new thing, and be much more exclusive in the new thing, as any group that just lets in any thing and every thing ceases to have any point of its existence.
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Well without knowing what those unreasonable new requests are, I don't really know how to continue. I'll just say that, for a long time the reasonable thing that the general population saw for gays and lesbians: Was to not burn them at the stake anymore, but to just force them to never engage in those kinds of relationships and to keep them as much out of society as possible, and then bonus points if you can try to convert them.
 
OffgridK9lover said:
Pushing into schools then to step it up one word sums it up "drag time story hour" was a deceleration of war basically, then dancing around naked in parades sort of sealed the cultural shift of "Perhaps the slippery slope is indeed right"

The original ask of "Leave us alone to live our life's and be married" to "Let us do strip shows in front of your kids" I don't know about you, but I want nothing to do with any group or flag that is connected to that!

Again oddly all that started to really ramp up only after they started adding letters!
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And its well within your rights not to attend naked parade or drag queen story hour, or I guess even weather you take your children to any thing like that.
Back when their was getting to be a fair number out LGB people. A large number of conservative christians were giving a lot of school boards hell for fear of the rumored homo english teacher giving their precious baby the gay bug. Kinda like now a lot of their angst back then though was around sexed, the toilet, library books and if any views other than their's might be expressed in the class room.
Obviously, if some drag queen were to hold you and your family at gunpoint, read a story, and then force you all to go in a naked parade, then fuck them 🤪
 
OffgridK9lover said:
Well I never said the other side doesn't share blame either. I fully encourage to make fun of those idiots too. I make sure to tell them they are just as much at fault!

But there is a thing called over correction, it causes most vehicle accidents in terms of driving, here it is causing a cultural crash and over correction.

In public a certain rule set needs be maintained for the sake of stable efficient society, on your land how ever!

Schools should promote boring functional strong family and matter of fact data, a strong stable society with healthy stable families allow us out liers to live comfortably, the inverse is not true.

As the saying goes, it is best not to rock the boat for fun when in shark infested waters! This applies to both sides, and neither seem to want to take the advice, so all we can do is not wave flags around and focus on very good fences.

When in foreign territory don't wave around the enemy flag!
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Well I think I understand the angle you're laying down. Instead of me dragging this Into something circular. Can we agree that in an ideal world, we should have every right except for the right to decide what what rights someone else gets to have?
 
When the sexual revolution began, they forgot to include us. Up through about the 1980s or so, bestiality was just another thing, no "weirder" than being gay or even BDSM. Now they get parades and we don't. Oh, well.
 
labsareawesome said:
When the sexual revolution began, they forgot to include us. Up through about the 1980s or so, bestiality was just another thing, no "weirder" than being gay or even BDSM. Now they get parades and we don't. Oh, well.
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Do you want zoo parades?
Do you need to let people know what you're into?
Do you really want everyone to know you're a zoo? Even people who have bad intentions, who could hurt you and your partner? Maybe even murder your partner? You do you I guess.

You know your sexuality/fetish is not your character, it's not who you are. And if it is, I feel sorry for you.

I never understood gay parades personally, it's such a waste of time. It's just visual and audible pollution.
 
SnoutShout said:
Do you want zoo parades?
Do you need to let people know what you're into?
Do you really want everyone to know you're a zoo? Even people who have bad intentions, who could hurt you and your partner? Maybe even murder your partner? You do you I guess.

You know your sexuality/fetish is not your character, it's not who you are. And if it is, I feel sorry for you.

I never understood gay parades personally, it's such a waste of time. It's just visual and audible pollution.
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There's no reason to take what I said too literally. If there were parades, I wouldn't bother with all that, because (IMO) bedroom stuff is for the bedroom.
 
Comparing Zoo with LGBT is just stupid.
They’re not even close to the same. Not legally, not in public perception, and not in private enjoyment.

Anyone that wants or argues for “zoo rights” or legalisation is incredibly naive.
 
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