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Are all you folks already on the new forum (Zoocadia)?

Wolfspirit said:
Just a quick PSA (on my own accord) for any of you unaware, some of the Zooville mods got together and created a new zoo forum (which is pretty active) that is designed more for real zoos and to better keep out the fetishists, bestialists, kinksters and zoosadists that websites like this unfortunately tend to attract. If you understand the difference between those terms and you fully identify as a zooromantic, zoophile or zoosexual zoophile, come on and join the growing pack!

Zoocadia.net
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Tried but accidentally used a nonexistent email and got banned
 
nekdoneco123 said:
not necessarily... we're just part of a forum for ppl with one shared trait with the trait itself greatly varying from individual to individual (ie. just a kink to one, full-on orientation to another one). i mean, ppl who prefer dark over milk chocolate aren't a community either. or all hetero folk...
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Though both chocolates are made from the same product x
 
the word community “is derived from the Latin communitas(meaning the same), which is in turn derived from communis, which means "common, public, shared by all or many."

I'm not here to argue, rather to be sentimental, we are all missing the general care and love for one another... especially cause of our differences
 
Horselover27SA said:
the word community “is derived from the Latin communitas(meaning the same), which is in turn derived from communis, which means "common, public, shared by all or many."

I'm not here to argue, rather to be sentimental, we are all missing the general care and love for one another... especially cause of our differences
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What doesn't work, doesn't work. It doesn't matter what the Latin name was.
 
OffgridK9lover said:
So basically:
Zoophile = loves animals
Zoosexual = Loves animals + sex
Bestialist = just a jerk off aid (Includes fetishists)
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Well, the official definitions are:
Zoophile = Someone who is (sexually) attracted to animals.
Bestiality = The act of having sex with animals.

Anything else is being made up by the community to change or distort those definitions.
 
CritterFunatic said:
Well, the official definitions are:
Zoophile = Someone who is (sexually) attracted to animals.
Bestiality = The act of having sex with animals.

Anything else is being made up by the community to change or distort those definitions.
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Always snakes in the grass ...but snakes have purpose
 
Horselover27SA said:
For a "community" , we can be rather horrible to one another ??
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Your first mistake is in imagining that we're a "community". Sorry, bud, but who/what you fuck/wanna fuck doesn't make a community, any more than 6 randomly chosen people wearing purple paisley cardigans makes them the royal family of England.
 
UR20Z said:
Your first mistake is in imagining that we're a "community". Sorry, bud, but who/what you fuck/wanna fuck doesn't make a community, any more than 6 randomly chosen people wearing purple paisley cardigans makes them the royal family of England.
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but some latin word says they are a family or something!
 
dominic-toretto-cars-in-fast-furious.jpg
 
UR20Z said:
Erm... Cute, but what's your point?? (Beyond Vin Diesel still be one of the ugliest fuckers I've ever laid eyes on, I mean)
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Every third word Toretto says in the movies is family. His family. In a deep, hoarse, slow voice.
 
Wolfspirit said:
Maybe I didn't do a perfect job of getting that accross in the first post but I don't see why you felt the need to talk shit behind my back
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Damn. He found out about my secret plan to talk shit about him "behind his back" on a public forum, in a thread that he himself started. If only I could have predicted that he would have access to these messages.
 
OffgridK9lover said:
ah you are one of those where I got to be hyper pedantic for, ok noted.
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Not hyper pedantic, just factual.

OffgridK9lover said:
Zoophile is referencing the attraction not act (...)
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Correct so far. I haven't said anything else.

OffgridK9lover said:
(...) thus community saved time of referring to the two separately Zoophile / bestialist and thus coined zoo sexual to indicate some one is both attracted to more than just sex, and all so engages in actual sex.
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The "more than just sex" part is irrelevant for the outside world. They didn't coin a word for that because they aren't interested in that.

Anything else still would be a zoophile. A zoophile is sexually attracted towards animals, a bestialist acts out on this attraction. It is likely that a bestialist is a zoophile as well, otherwise they might not seek intercourse with animals, while a zoophile doesn't necessarily needs to be a bestialist, as not every zoophile acts out on their attraction.

OffgridK9lover said:
Zoophilia is simply a broad umbrella term to general attraction and not specifically active sexual contact, one can be a zoophil whilst not having any interest in sex.

that is it, I really can't think of any way to make it simpler for you.
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You didn't really made it simpler but overcomplicated it.

An asexual person, for example, can still also indulge in sexual activities without feeling sexually attracted towards anyone. Not being attracted towards someone or something doesn't mean they aren't able to have sexual activities, likewise being attracted towards something doesn't necessarily mean that someone has to act out on said attraction. Attractions and actions also aren't mutually exclusive concepts either that warrant extra terms, so your point is moot. I showed you one (of many) examples that clearly state that zoophilia (as part of paraphilias) IS the sexual attraction towards animals. Sexual attraction doesn't mean having sex. That's why the term bestialist exists, because this denotes a person who IS having sex with animals.

Zoosexuality is, as you correctly stated, a made up term by the community, but not for the reasons you mentioned. Zoo communities tried for a long time to drift away from the association with paraphilias and towards recognition of zoophilia as a proper sexual orientation, since words ending on "sexuality" usually indicate an orientation, but the outside world hasn't recognized zoophilia as a sexual orientation yet, so zoosexuality for the outside world just means the same as zoophilia.

If you go to the more extreme parts of the community, you will experience rather delusional statements like "zoophilia" not being associated with "paraphilia" at all, but rather with "love", some people go to those extremes to claim that anyone loving animals would be a "zoophile", which led to at least one case I heard about (anecdotal evidence, I know) where a person not knowing the term "zoophilia", who was (and still is) a person loving animals got convinced to wear a shirt stating "I'm a zoophile", thinking it meant "I ❤️ animals". Someone who knew what "zoophilia" meant asked him if this was true and told him what the word truely meant, to which said person reacted shocked and threw away the shirt in question in disgust. Stuff like that happens when people come up with their own definition of words rather than abiding by (or challenging) the official definitions.

Which in turn also led people back when I was new in zoo communities, almost 30 years ago, to claim that "bestialists" were "dirty animal abusers", absolutely misrepresenting the meaning of said word.

So if you let this happen, in the end you get people to think that words have entirely different meanings than they have. They'll prefer to give "zoophilia" a more positive, less polarizing meaning, make up a new word for the official definition of zoophilia, rebrand the word "bestiality" into something negative and think they can fool the whole world if they pretend just hard enough that their interpretation and definition will turn official somehow in the end. But that's not how language works. And that's not what outsiders believe. Nobody falls for that. It's just delusional and gets treated as such. I've seen that happening time and time again. Outsiders don't buy into the "it's all about looove" stuff while some zoos deceive themselves into thinking that this is exactly what the word "zoophile" means (it is not, though).
 
MashaSobaka said:
Every third word Toretto says in the movies is family. His family. In a deep, hoarse, slow voice.
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Ahhh... I wasn't aware of that, having avoided all of them beyond the first, which, honestly, I can (mercifully) barely remember anything about beyond it having to do with idiotic-looking rice-burners with obnoxious fart-can exhaust systems.
 
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