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Suggestion: doing sexual stuff with stray animals should be not allowed here

Cookiecaretaker

Cookiecaretaker

Esteemed Citizen of ZV
i see more and more stray-fucking topics comming up so:

doing stuff with stray animals should be not allowed here - get them adopt them or at least search them a good home thats the way to go (and help prevent that they multiply)


use them sexual and dump then back to the streets is wrong


(wild animals i dont care but stray animals are not wild and dont belong into the nature - they need propper care and safety)
 
Cookiecaretaker said:
i see more and more stray-fucking topics comming up so:

doing stuff with stray animals should be not allowed here - get them adopt them or at least search them a good home thats the way to go (and help prevent that they multiply)


use them sexual and dump then back to the streets is wrong


(wild animals i dont care but stray animals are not wild and dont belong into the nature - they need propper care and safety)
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110%?? No stray animal content. Its just wrong to fuck them and dump them again.
 
Silvervine said:
@pes might have some feedback as well and started the Abusive Porn Cleanup Thread.
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This is how it usually goes:

Did you ever go through with it?

I remember reading some internet stories og people who were Zoo exclusive enjoying the thrill of being in stray dogs into their homes for a night session. Though I believe these story are fake, did anyone ever have the thought or even actually did it?
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That's like saying don't fuck a homeless person without getting him a home as well. What actual arguments do you have against this?
- will the stray dog in case mind?
- will he be worse off having had maybe a dinner and a screw?
If both questions are answered with no, then maybe just let it be. I get it, stray dogs are sad and anyone worth their while would do something more to help it, but if in the end the dogs aren't worse of, we should also realise that there is no real reason to be against it.
 
? I'll answer before this hits the DF...

Not saying you do not have a point but.
1 - Like baiting, even of the animal is ok with it... Would you *really* want images of that in your porn stash?
2 - Doing it... Are you really sure you'd risk about health and temperament of unknown animals that usually happen to feel unsecure around people?


On the other side.
Even if that is banned here, same as on fencehopping. How is that supposed to be enforced unless it is *very* obvious or the poster seriously admits it?

I mean, I may call my own dog an stray or my horse "my neighbor stall" just to avoid linking myself to the activities if someone recognizes the animal.
Or, viceversa, I may just call "friends dogs used with permission" to my dog walker business customer dogs until someone can prove otherwise.

Still quite good for those not reading the rules, though ?
 
Goattobeloved said:
I'll answer before this hits the DF... Not saying you do not have a point but. 1 - Like baiting, even of the animal is ok with it... Would you *really* want images of that in your porn stash? 2 - Doing it... Are you really sure you'd risk about health and temperament of unknown animals that usually happen to feel unsecure around people? On the other side. Even if that is banned here, same as on fencehopping. How is that supposed to be enforced unless it is *very* obvious or the poster seriously admits it? I mean, I may call my own dog an stray or my horse "my neighbor stall" just to avoid linking myself to the activities if someone recognizes the animal. Or, viceversa, I may just call "friends dogs used with permission" to my dog walker business customer dogs until someone can prove otherwise. Still quite good for those not reading the rules, though
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I agree with you, I don't want it (I don't even have a porn stash) and agree it's unwise. But I don't feel everything I don't agree with or want myself should be banned. If no harm is done, no harm is done. That should be the only guideline needed. Same with people using peanutbutter. Totally unarousing. But the animal in question gets a nice snack, so why the hell do we care so much that someone isn't up to our moral standards? This reflex to try and forbid everything we find distasteful is exactly why being zoo is illegal in the first place. Why do we do the same?
 
waarom170 said:
I agree with you, I don't want it (I don't even have a porn stash) and agree it's unwise. But I don't feel everything I don't agree with or want myself should be banned. If no harm is done, no harm is done. That should be the only guideline needed. Same with people using peanutbutter. Totally unarousing. But the animal in question gets a nice snack, so why the hell do we care so much that someone isn't up to our moral standards? This reflex to try and forbid everything we find distasteful is exactly why being zoo is illegal in the first place. Why do we do the same?
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Well, I could go with the "going with a random animal is just physical, not really zoo love" thing.
I mean, this actually works like that for me, no relation, I won't be able to do anything.
It is like having a lovely girlfriend at home and caring one for the other versus getting a fast relief with an street crack whore who will surely get a few $ she needs (to keep killing herself).

But since the title of this forum says
Zoophilia and bestiality forum
So I understand this would be a mood point. Mentioning just for my background. Discussion wise lets pretend I just did not write this :)
 
I just thinking on how you would want the mods to enforce the rule.

I mean I can already see some grey areas of this kind of rule, and I can see some unfair enforcement of the rule.

Like:

Is it banable if you just taking a picture of a stray female in heat, or if a stray male having a boner so to speak?

Should a video of two stray dogs mating be banned as well?

And what about if there is a video of someone doing it with a dog, but the dog accidentally looks like it is stray?

The grey area seems to be too big for a topic like this, and alot could be unfairly banned because of xyz
 
*nods and sighs* Some interesting and valid points and discussion. Considering basic human nature it's likely there is material here on ZV that violates the fence/owner hopping prohibition but objectively proving that's what the material is, unless the poster admits it, is virtually impossible...
 
rocky_dp said:
Good point.
I mean hell, if some ass hat picked up a stray, had sex with it, took a video and posted it, all they would have to do is NOT mention its a stray.
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Well.... Unlike some or how we know some people are, then I wouldnt mind to pick up a stray. If I can finance having a pet at home, then I will pick one up. Not to have sex with it, but rather to make sure it has a great home and shelter. I even will try to figure out who the owner is/was if I can see if it has a collar or is chipped
 
I can rehome a stray dog needing a good home to be cared and provided, a shelter to feel safe, have freedom and happiness, there's always a welcoming place for them with me . In my perspective and opinion, it's inhumane to pick up strays, screw them and dump them back in the street .
 
Theunis323 said:
I can rehome a stray dog needing a good home to be cared and provided, a shelter to feel safe, have freedom and happiness, there's always a welcoming place for them with me . In my perspective and opinion, it's inhumane to pick up strays, screw them and dump them back in the street .
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Is his life worse off after you screw him and put him back on the street? Sentiment aside, objectively? I'm with you, i wouldnt put them back on the street. But I wouldnt disallow someone else doing it, if the animal is no worse of. Would I consider them heartles? Maybe, depending on their situation. But if you gave the dog a choice, do you really think he would turn it down? We need to be able to look past our own feelings on a subject before we simply say 'I don't like it so i want it forbidden'. As i said, the same argument is constantly used against zoos in the first place.
 
I both agree with this post and have done this. I took a stray home and jerked him off, before giving him a bath and feeding him. I kept him in the garage for a few days until I could try and search for his owners. In the end, I had to surrender him to the shelter and he didnt have a chip. To this day I still feel guilty about it. I mean, I'm sure he was neutered and some loving family adopted him... but I could never know for sure. I wanted to keep him so badly but I couldn't. I think zoos have a soft spot for strays and most would want to keep them. At the very least, we genuinely care about their well being. But a fuck and dump? Absolutely deplorable.
 
That is overthinking ?

Getting an stray, giving some food and even letting him/her stay home even for only a short time is absolutely fine and something to thank you about.

After that, if you can find them a home, or a shelter or leaving them back where they already know how to move. Those are all good options depending on the circumstances.

IF there is something sexual on the process or not, well, up to you. As long as that was not the main reason, I would personally not consider it *that* wrong.



What I understand is the "no stray sex" concept discussed here is the...
"hey, nice dog, big cock... umm.. Come here Fido... food!!, come... come... come...into this dark alley"
*frus frus moment*
" now go away, you mongrel, I can not keep dogs at home"
(- Bonus points for recording the sex innuenfo, then uploading it here in the porn section)
 
Is it wrong to give a stray dog a treat without taking him in? Because to a dog sex and treats mean the same thing, a good time. You're all placing human morality on a dog. They aren't human, they don't view sex the same way we do.
I've never done it, but I don't see a single moral issue with taking a dog in for a good time, giving them a parting treat and waving goodbye come again soon
 
HyperWoof said:
Is it wrong to give a stray dog a treat without taking him in? Because to a dog sex and treats mean the same thing, a good time.
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Fair point. Although most people usually do sexual things primarily for their own pleasure, not for the partner's pleasure. Sadly.

Anyway, I also agree with others that "fuck and dump" is wrong. But "give them food and take them for a walk, then dump them on the street again" (or to the shelter where they are castrated and/or killed) is equally wrong, at least in my opinion.
 
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Lots of good points here. I'm all for discouraging "strays as a fetish". Where people are clearly getting off to the idea of a fuck and dump relationship with poorly cared for, easily coerced animals.
By all means, take care of a stray for a day. Give them some good food, clean them up, take them to a vet if they need one, and if they're a horny critter then no problems with having a romp. But don't upload videos of clearly poorly cared for dogs here with the title "caught another stray fuck".
 
What bothers me a lot more is guys who go into animal shelters after-hours to take advantage of the captive dogs there. They must have a peril-of-getting-caught fetish to justify that level of wrongness. Maybe it's no longer happening much, due to the proliferation of security cameras. But there are plenty of reposts here of old content from at least three BF members who specialized in that stunt.
 
I feel there are different ways to see this, and it is more to do with the Consensual sex thing !!
If a Male human, takes in a stray female dog to have sex with it, that is Wrong, because he is making advances where they aren't wanted.
There is no way to know if the female dog is consenting to his advances, or just being Submissive to a Master type figure !!
For him to lead the way and go on with intercourse, I would call that Abuse of that Bitch !!

But !!

If a Woman invites in a Stray Male dog into her home, or private space, and befriends him, then offers herself to him, She is being Consensual, and if he shows interest in her, enjoys the taste and scent of her pussy, and also moves on to try Humping her, Then he too is showing his Consent, and that he wants to have sex with her !!
How is that Abuse ?

Even if she does send him out afterwards, He will be happy for his experiences, would he not ?

There is definitely a difference between a Man taking in a Stray Bitch with intention of Penetrating her !!
and a Woman taking in a Stray Dog, and offering herself to him !!
She is not forcing him to do anything, just tempting him and Consenting to him having sex with her, Which he will no doubt enjoy doing !!
 
Ruffus66 said:
I feel there are different ways to see this, and it is more to do with the Consensual sex thing !!
If a Male human, takes in a stray female dog to have sex with it, that is Wrong, because he is making advances where they aren't wanted.
There is no way to know if the female dog is consenting to his advances, or just being Submissive to a Master type figure !!
For him to lead the way and go on with intercourse, I would call that Abuse of that Bitch !!
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a female dog can consent no matter if stray or not that wont change anything in that regard

Ruffus66 said:
But !!

If a Woman invites in a Stray Male dog into her home, or private space, and befriends him, then offers herself to him, She is being Consensual, and if he shows interest in her, enjoys the taste and scent of her pussy, and also moves on to try Humping her, Then he too is showing his Consent, and that he wants to have sex with her !!
How is that Abuse ?

Even if she does send him out afterwards, He will be happy for his experiences, would he not ?
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its not right to use the dog for sexual stuff then dumb the dog back to the street

Ruffus66 said:
There is definitely a difference between a Man taking in a Stray Bitch with intention of Penetrating her !!
and a Woman taking in a Stray Dog, and offering herself to him !!
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no its all the same when sex is consentual
 
I guess everyone's opinion will be different based on their personal principles. Personally I would never be able to use a stray dog for sex and put them on the street again.

But if sex is consential I can also see how the stray isn't left in a worse position than he/she was before the act so I understand and agree to an extent with those that don't see an issue with it.

On the other side of that coin, although the dog isn't harmed, a person that would take him/her in only to be used for sex and then let them be disowned and cast out again would rightfully face judgement from other zoos for having such a selfish, apathetic approach. I could never share intimacy with an individual and not care what happens to it the next day, getting hit by a car, starving, dog fights, disease, etc.

The only time I'll get involved with a stray is if I intend on improving it's life and finding it a home. But that's just me, as long as the animal isn't harmed I won't judge anyone that does it differently.
 
Goattobeloved said:
Not again... males enjoy sex, females suffer it ?

One thing you are right. If you are unable to see if a female (or a male) is consenting to whatever, for the sake of all involved, just keep yourself 10 feet from her.
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One thing we can be sure of,
If a Woman allows a stray male dog into her home or garden etc, we can be 100% sure, that she is Consenting !!
If that male dog, Willingly shows interest, in her pussy's Scent and Taste, and he willingly gets aroused and starts to hump.
I can not see, how this is cruel ?
Like all Males, intact male dogs, are driven, to get sexual mating success, Naturally with his own Species, but if he gets the offer from a woman, and wants to follow that through, he is showing his Happy Consent !!

The Dog will leave her household or where ever they may be, as a Happy Chappie, Wagging his tail all the way, and go about His usual life on the streets !!
He may even come back for more of the same, on another day !!

As long as she doesn't physically handle him, and force intercourse by using his cock as a Dildo,
(Which I call Dildogging) and I am 100% against that !!
I don't like to seen that on the Video's which circulate the Net.



As long as it is Consensual and willing on both participants, I can't see why, this should be Frowned upon here ?
 
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Ruffus66 said:
Like all Males, intact male dogs, are driven, to get sexual mating success,
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and females not? wonder why all mating species arent extinct now if thats the case, or do u say the male always ,,rapes,, the female?
Ruffus66 said:
The Dog will leave her household or where ever they may be, as a Happy Chappie, Wagging his tail all the way, and go about His usual life on the streets !!
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miserable life as street dog, suffering much only used from the ,,human,, for sex - not giving him shelter or such
Ruffus66 said:
As long as she doesn't physically handle him, and force intercourse by using his cock as a Dildo,
(Which I call Dildogging) and I am 100% against that !!
I don't like to seen that on the Video's which circulate the Net.
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and how will u be sure the male dog isnt exploited in any way?

Ruffus66 said:
As long as it is Consensual and willing on both participants, I can't see why, this should be Frowned upon here ?
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