Zoo relationship breakups

personally I can't see it going any better or worse Thad a regular breakup as exposing them exposes yourself! I know girls who've been into zoo and our relationship has soured (sadly) they've gone on with their lives and me with mine! but you'll never know unless you risk it!
 
If my woman was at the zoo like me, I wouldn't let the relationship end. That's a lifelong relationship.
You may have not meant it a psychotic way, but your post came off as very creepy. Kind of like "She can never leave, and if she tries, I'll lock her in my basement and give her 2 rice cakes and a handful of peanuts a day for subsistence."
 
It really depends on the individual. I've known zoos that have gotten into relationships and they parted amicably. But I did know one zoo that ended up getting burned. Basically after he and his wife separated she took the dogs with her and cut him off completely. Out of sheer spite she ended up blasting him on Facebook about being a zoophile. And while he could have done the same, he decided not to do so. But losing his canines and getting exposed made things a living nightmare for awhile. He eventually got another canine, but the breeder that sold her to him lied and as it turns out she was spayed. After that, one day he messaged our group, said basically "I'm no longer zoo." and pretty much bailed. It's a pretty sad story all around.

But just because his experience ended up that way, doesn't necessarily mean they all will. It really depends on if the other party is a shit human being or not. Although if said person ended up being a zoosadist, then getting burned would be a little more understandable. But situations like his is why I'm very cautious about getting into a relationship with another zoo. Even though I'd love to be in one, as long as they'd be find with 50% of all the attention going towards the canines and 50% of the attention being on them, I'd be all for it. But stories like his makes me very cautious.
 
personally I can't see it going any better or worse Thad a regular breakup as exposing them exposes yourself! I know girls who've been into zoo and our relationship has soured (sadly) they've gone on with their lives and me with mine! but you'll never know unless you risk it!
Exactly, like I think breaking up in a zoo relationship is pretty inconsequential when both people will be outed if both speak bad of the other.
 
You are not going about it the right way at all. You are blaming others as the cause of a problem in your own relationships. The person you should be examining for answers is yourself, not others.

Others have a right not to like you, cannot change that.

I have a buddy who actually I gotta tell often he cannot throw money at his relationships or the women he is interested in when he fucks up talking to them(he's cool, he's just a rich autistic prick). He can shower people in anything but he realized the women he really wanted are the ones money never worked on.

I recommend you to speak a professional therapist focusing on interpersonal relationships if you really feel this confused and are misdirecting blame towards frmales this badly.
I've tried, many many times. Most of my relationships have been with non-zoo, and as soon as I understood our non-compatibility I left it to them to do the breakups, but this last girl...I just can't figure it out.

I didn't try anything with her. I had just gotten out of trucking, I had a video game store, my store manager quit on me and I went to go work at Denny's and bk and run my computer and video game store myself. I didn't throw any money at her. I didn't even show the slightest of interest in her. She's even a user here on the site, I know she was honest about beastiality, we had an established communication. We had almost everything in common, and shared the strongest chemistry I've ever had. Why would she tense up when I tried putting my dog in place of me for sex?

Then she tells me a bunch of excuses on why she changed her mind after dumping me, that makes no sense. Yes, it's true, I definitely need to talk to someone, but zoos can't just go talking to a therapist, especially when they are an owner. The only zoo friend I could talk to about this was a long time friend and in a relationship with my former store manager where they both screwed me over big time, and supported this girl because he was jealous of me.

And that still doesn't help me any. I have found most women being with me when I'm flat broke, including but not limited to this last one, but she also has two growing boys and on a crash course of disaster for both her and her kids financially. I personally don't believe relationships should be founded on money, but I have known many women to need that, albeit none I've ever been with.

The problem I'm having is I'm a great suiter for just about any women. I can walk up to about any woman and land a date. There is nothing I can't show for it, and I've got a great personality and make friends easily, and very sociable, I need someone's help on finding why women can't hold down a relationship. I don't just say this for myself, but in general. That last girl hopped over 30 relationships at the age of 25, and she really wasn't good looking, I was attracted to her as a person, not her looks. The only women I've ever seen hold down a lasting relationship are either religious or being blackmailed, or in my friends' situations they get whatever bottom-of-the-barrel-woman they can keep, and I can say they certainly don't have much to show for in looks, personality, or anything else.

If I walked up to the gas station lady right now, and she accepted a date, I found out she likes video games and other things I do, and we find out we are zoo-compatible, what could I do to make it last?

The last two women that came onto me, it was completely unexpected, and I had given up long time ago. I can't be respected enough when I say "no", and I keep getting pushed into it, and then when I show interest they hate me. Women only find me attractive, they don't care about my feelings, or when I say "no". It's true I can point my finger all day long, and even be right about it, but it's also true that I'm doing something wrong. And whatever that is I have no clue what it is, I never get any kind of fluent communication from women I'm with. I always have to find out how they feel or what they like or want from their friends, or their cousin or mom, and I'm always the last to be informed, if at all. And of course that doesn't change the issue of communication they all seem to want to close down when I try and assess the issue or talk it out.

When I'm too recessive, I'm supposed to be more dominant. When I'm dominant, I'm supposed to be less so. When she afraid to tell me she fucked my friend and i find out the next girl likes that and I confess I actually like it too, then she tells me she doesn't want to because I'm not doing that with other women. It doesn't matter what I do or don't do, or what I say or don't say, I find myself getting barraged with anything and everything they can think of to simply make it impossible to please them or get anywhere in the relationship. Then of course I speak my mind, and oh, the slightest bit of anything that comes from my mouth is offensive and grounds to leave. Like men can't express themselves too or something. Then I'm attacked by women because they think I owe them my cock, or I'm obligated to do something for them when I turn them down. Men can say "no" too, yet it's obviously not adhered to. The last women I turned down and said no to, tried to ruin my life, simply because I rejected on from a date, and rejected the other from sex on the first date. They think the world revolves around them. They think we don't have the right to say "no", especially if they come onto me and I don't know if they are zoo-compatible. They think only they can express their thoughts and feelings when they're upset, but when we do it, we're the bad guys. It's not an equal playing field, and men and women need to learn from each other and apply it. I know I can point the finger, but I also know it's not a one way road, so all I'm asking is for advice from women here, on what I can do to make it last. I certainly wouldn't want to blackmail a women to do so, I want a true genuine relationship, but I can't seem to find a woman that wants that also. What can I do, or better yet, what can any guy do? What can men do for a lady to make a lasting relationship? I see all these guys laying their hands on their lady, or blackmailing them with illicit drugs, or paying them money. I don't want any of that, so I want an answer of how to make it last. Can no one share insight to the female mind?
 
It really depends on the individual. I've known zoos that have gotten into relationships and they parted amicably. But I did know one zoo that ended up getting burned. Basically after he and his wife separated she took the dogs with her and cut him off completely. Out of sheer spite she ended up blasting him on Facebook about being a zoophile. And while he could have done the same, he decided not to do so. But losing his canines and getting exposed made things a living nightmare for awhile. He eventually got another canine, but the breeder that sold her to him lied and as it turns out she was spayed. After that, one day he messaged our group, said basically "I'm no longer zoo." and pretty much bailed. It's a pretty sad story all around.

But just because his experience ended up that way, doesn't necessarily mean they all will. It really depends on if the other party is a shit human being or not. Although if said person ended up being a zoosadist, then getting burned would be a little more understandable. But situations like his is why I'm very cautious about getting into a relationship with another zoo. Even though I'd love to be in one, as long as they'd be find with 50% of all the attention going towards the canines and 50% of the attention being on them, I'd be all for it. But stories like his makes me very cautious.
That sounds about right. I couldn't even build up trust with mine, let alone get an open communication from her. It becomes really hard when there's little to no communication, and we can't even progress on building trust to get to the good stuff. I wanted me and my dog to fuck her brains out constantly and we wanted the same thing, but we couldn't build trust or communicate fluently.
 
oh so you suggest blackmail and threats of exposing another person to keep them ? you sir are a real Pig.
Look at it this way, I let a 73 year old man record me getting raped by his dog. Knowing why he wanted to. I love being used sexually, and I don't know any woman that doesn't. Is it so hard to just fuck like dogs and happy with each other? What is so hard about getting a free house, not having to pay any bills, having your kids' college funds and vehicles taken care of, not having to worry about slave work (job) playing some video games, and all I ask is that she fuck my dog and cook a real meal every once in awhile. Besides that and cuddles, why do relationships have to be so complicated and wind up ending?

We're all zoos here, why can't we just live together and enjoy our company and share our fetish? What would make a woman leave a man with this kind of life, that's what I want to know. Why would it even come to that? If zoophilia isn't special enough to mean something to seone that they want to leave for no reason instead of working their problems out, then the person wanting to leave has serious problems and is deserving of whatever I'll carma or retaliation the other person sets forward. It shouldn't have to come to blackmail, and if it ever does, then it's well deserved imo.
 
So, I guess my question for ladies is, what would keep you committed to a relationship with a guy? What could a guy possibly do for you ladies to keep you two together so it lasts? What is the solution for those seeking lasting relationship?

With your first post, I was thinking - oh, poor guy, didn't have a good luck in dating. But with all that you have said afterwards, sorry to say, but you seem to be that is the problem in the relationship and probably needs a professional help. That's not trying to be mean, just honest, just as you asked. Becasue no matter whar relationships you went through, no matter what personality traits you can offer, no matter how big your dick or income is, and no matter how big of a "nice guy" you are, noone in their right mind would even theoretically suggest that blackmail can grant you a good relationship.
Sure, good relationship is lasting relationship. But relationship that is lasting on extortion is a crime, not a good relationship. And whether you like it or not, you come out as a terribly controlling human. Speak to a professional, maybe they will be able to help you and understand you.
 
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With your first post, I was thinking - oh, poor guy, didn't have a good luck in dating. But with all that you have said afterwards, sorry to say, but you seem to be that is the problem in the relationship and probably needs a professional help. That's not trying to be mean, just honest, just as you asked. Becasue no matter whar relationships you want through, no matter what personality traits you can offer, no matter how big your dick or income is, and no matter how big of a "nice guy" you are, noone in their right mind would even theoretically suggest that blackmail can grant you a good relationship.
Sure, good relationship is lasting relationship. But relationship that is lasting on extortion is a crime, not a good relationship. And whether you like it or not, you come out as a terribly controlling human. Speak to a professional, maybe they will be able to help you and understand you.
That is true. If a relationship has to become forced, it is not a good one. But again, the question go unanswered, on why do men mean so little that women just dump and move on instead of working the issue out? What makes a lasting relationship in the eyes of a woman? It shouldn't have to come to a guy blackmailing a woman. Why would it ever have to get to that point?
 
That is true. If a relationship has to become forced, it is not a good one. But again, the question go unanswered, on why do men mean so little that women just dump and move on instead of working the issue out? What makes a lasting relationship in the eyes of a woman? It shouldn't have to come to a guy blackmailing a woman. Why would it ever have to get to that point?
I haven't nearly enough human experience to be qualified to answer that. But from what I can guess, sometimes it just takes some time to find out whether it will work or not. Maybe while you're at point when you are already imagining future together, she only is starting to realise new things that didn't come up to her mind when you were just freshly dating head over heels. And perhaps some things that they realise they just take as too much to be worth/possible changing. Again, if I realised that my boyfriend has some abusive traits, or would be unhealthily obsessive and manipulating, I would just want to get out and fast. Communication is not a key there for me, there is nothing I can make better, I just need to get away.
 
The more people you bring into a relationship or anything private/secretive, the higher the risk you run. Everyone should be aware or that with what happens everywhere. It’s hard enough finding one person you can trust, let alone a full group. All it takes is one to get jealous, take something the wrong way, or just not being content to ruin everything, and possibly everyone’s lives.
 
I disagree. I think that's a perfect solution to keep a woman committed in a relationship...after all nothing else works. A guy can have the biggest dick, be the nicest guy, have money pouring out of his pockets, have a perfect comparability, even have children together...but apparently these things aren't important or significant enough to keep a woman...

So, I guess my question for ladies is, what would keep you committed to a relationship with a guy? What could a guy possibly do for you ladies to keep you two together so it lasts? What is the solution for those seeking lasting relationship?

If any of you ladies can share some insight for a struggling guy like me, I would be grateful.
I was honestly on your side up until this point. I’ve dated some psychos, and much of how you talked about how she rushed in with sex and whatnot sounds very similar to them, but to go and say this is just fucked up. That’s some psychotic/possessive shit right there. Sounds like she just beat you at your own game, as you would have used the pictures against her.
 
I think a lot of people on this forum need more help with relationships than they present honestly and it seems many are just desperate for a relationship/validation. So people with a lot of toxic energy and unresolved problems end up in relationships; turning toxicity towards each other. Example, someone doing blackmail to save their relationship; a major childish action and a screaming sign that you're toxic.

The creepy messages(even for a sex based forum) here are intrusive and downright disrespectful at times here; i dont respond to them even most of the time. If you are incapable of making working relationships in real life and rely on toxicity/manipulation; it is best to seek the help of an interpersonal relationship therapist for just normal human relationships.

This website is not a fox to your lack of relationship skills; you can even find zoo relationships irl.

Now, I am good at finding random Zoo girls at bars and uni by asking basic test questions about fan fiction and such; followed by doing a couple hookups with knot toys

Yet people send me messages like this is the only place to find zoos + the ones that are creepy really double down. I have hardly sent any DMs but have gotten 10x that in weird/disrespectful messages... these are people that have to work on general relationship skills before they attempt to flirt. I actually regret trying to give so much background to my kinks for finding fun roleplay partners, they creepiness/anger from others is just outstandingly high.

While all this stress and creepiness can definitely be related to this lifestyle alone; we shouldn't be so intertwined with our kinks that we let it ruin our life/relationship skills.
 
Again, if I realised that my boyfriend has some abusive traits, or would be unhealthily obsessive and manipulating, I would just want to get out and fast.
This is very important advice. If you see redflags; run and don't look back.

This advice is for both genders. No matter who you're interested in, don't ignore red flags, respond to them properly and quickly.

Ladies, leave the walking red flags, you're not obligated to stay with them.

Guys, leave the walking red flags, you're not obligated to stay with them.

Works both ways.
 
I haven't nearly enough human experience to be qualified to answer that. But from what I can guess, sometimes it just takes some time to find out whether it will work or not. Maybe while you're at point when you are already imagining future together, she only is starting to realise new things that didn't come up to her mind when you were just freshly dating head over heels. And perhaps some things that they realise they just take as too much to be worth/possible changing. Again, if I realised that my boyfriend has some abusive traits, or would be unhealthily obsessive and manipulating, I would just want to get out and fast. Communication is not a key there for me, there is nothing I can make better, I just need to get away.
This girl told me she didn't shower, but maybe once a week, and even then told me she just doesn't wash. Told me she like's mens body odour too. All stuff she just talks about, I didn't even ask about it. But She knew that turned me on too, and then she takes a shower before coming to meet me, and I jokingly/playfully (although also serious in a way) make a comment about it, and told her I like her dirty after work. I wanted her as she was, and she changed herself to be clean because that's what she thought I wanted or thought she should do, then tells me I am obsessive and controlling about it, when I just wanted her to be herself. I didn't consent to a clean washed woman and cunt, I consented to her the way she was, unclean, used, no duesche, etc. I certainly never intended to be obsessive or controlling. Then Im obsessive and controlling because I put jack inbetween us for him to have sex with her instead, even after she posted on here looking for a bunch of guys and dogs to fuck her for me when we hadn't even known each other for a whole week yet, then she just tells me "it's my nerves, it's just the way my nerves make me feel" and that was the excuse of dumping me when I replaced myself with my dog for sex with her and she tensed up. She was so scared her hands were sweating when she came over, even when we were on the same page. I wonder if she just impulsively dumped me, but didn't really want to. She says she likes it, but couldn't meet my beastiality needs, and I tried expressing to her that I wanted to take it slow, and that I didn't require her to do so (until she was ready) but I guess she just needed dick so bad it didn't matter to her, which brings me back to my original point that she never wanted a real genuine relationship, just another temporary one.
 
I was honestly on your side up until this point. I’ve dated some psychos, and much of how you talked about how she rushed in with sex and whatnot sounds very similar to them, but to go and say this is just fucked up. That’s some psychotic/possessive shit right there. Sounds like she just beat you at your own game, as you would have used the pictures against her.
I never had any intent on taking video or picture of her and I wasn't looking for sex either. I wanted a slow paced relationship to build trust and get to know each other, and she just couldn't respect that. The only thing that went through my mind is she was only trying to get sex from me to have her third child to get more ebt and wellfare like she did two other guys, and of course being a cdl holder means I'd lose my cdl on that shit and my income gone. Not happening. If women can't respect me to take it slow or casual, then I want them nowhere near me. I will not see women run off with my kids, or screw my job/income/future up over child support and lose my cdl.
 
This is very important advice. If you see redflags; run and don't look back.

This advice is for both genders. No matter who you're interested in, don't ignore red flags, respond to them properly and quickly.

Ladies, leave the walking red flags, you're not obligated to stay with them.

Guys, leave the walking red flags, you're not obligated to stay with them.

Works both ways.
I disagree with your first sentence. Men seem to unintentionally offend women all the time. I've done it and I know everyone else has to at least once. That doesn't mean the guy meant to or is abusive or bad, or that the relationship will be toxic, it just means the guy didn't mean to, and wasn't aware of it negatively effecting her, and she should speak up and say something to her. I would love a woman to simply speak up and outright say something to me, even if it were mean or hateful, at least it would be honest, instead of keeping it hidden and building up to the point miscommunications arise and breakups happen.
 
I disagree with your first sentence. Men seem to unintentionally offend women all the time. I've done it and I know everyone else has to at least once. That doesn't mean the guy meant to or is abusive or bad, or that the relationship will be toxic, it just means the guy didn't mean to, and wasn't aware of it negatively effecting her, and she should speak up and say something to her. I would love a woman to simply speak up and outright say something to me, even if it were mean or hateful, at least it would be honest, instead of keeping it hidden and building up to the point miscommunications arise and breakups happen.
People unintentionally offend humans, it's a human thing; not a gender thing. Don't just say all men unintentionally offend women and that's the women's fault. It's not the women's fault, offending anyone is the fault of the person that caused the offense; not the fault of the person that you offended.

You cannot group entire psychological profiles together into two groups by gender. Generalizations based on your personal experience is not how the human brain, psychology, or sociology works. It is toxic behavior and a major red flag to generalize by gender; exactly what would offend a person.

It is the way you speak to people; not specifically women. It's possible to examine what you say and start fixing it by yourself or with professional interpersonal relationship therapists(they basically tell you the basics odlf socializing and how you can help more easily socialize without causing problems).





So...
I had logged on to read fun stuff/rp with friend just a few minutes ago. After reading and replying to this; I'm logging for the night 🙃 Killed my mood having to explain simple shit.
 
Dude, if you are even just a half self important and self gratifying as you are being here, no wonder that they run away as soon as they learn that.

Yeah, there must be some reason why women broke up with you once you started a life together, and it is very well possible that some of them just didn't know what they were getting into, let fantasies took over their mind and when they sobered up from them they realised that it's not what they wanted. But I can assure you that we didn't all just come to an agreement together to secretly hate men and just try to use them.
Maybe, if this is a reoccurring case for you, it's time to consider that you might be the problem. Because so far you do an excellent job at putting all the blame on women you have (or even haven't) been with and you didn't try to analyse a thing about some problem being at your end.
And this by itself is a major red flag. No woman wants to be with someone who does an excelent job at guilting and shaming his exes.
Again, speak to a progessional. Someone who can be objective when listening to you and who can analyse your behaviour. You can be an unfortunate saint for all I know. But you may very well not be and they are the only one capable of telling you that and giving you an advice how to change that.
 
Thank you guys for your honest inputs, I do sincerely value honesty. I will work on these issues you guys have presented. Perhaps that's exactly my problem. It does make it hard though to focus on myself in these things when I don't get support or understanding or communication from a partner I'm with, the lack of that just makes it harder for me to cope and work on myself with these things you guys have brought to my attention. It also concerns me with distinguishing between self gratification as you say and confidence, where would be a clean cut line between the two?How can I still be confident yet not self gratifying, if anyone has any insight to that, it may help me work on my own issues. Would appreciate any advice on that; thanks.
 
It also concerns me with distinguishing between self gratification as you say and confidence, where would be a clean cut line between the two?How can I still be confident yet not self gratifying, if anyone has any insight to that, it may help me work on my own issues. Would appreciate any advice on that; thanks.
You do not need a partner to start helping yourself; you just need to want to improve yourself. And a partner is not a de facto therapist and it's best to see this now and search for a real therapist because I can tell you want help.

I recommend therapy with an Interpersonal Relationship specialist because you can go to speak to people that are trained for 8 to 12 years to get to know you; telling you more about yourself than any partner could most of the time. They are trained to help and they do not judge you; they want to help you feel okay with yourself and they want to help you feel okay with people. They will help you see yourself and help you improve what you don't like.

You can go see a therapist and leave out all the zoo stuff and just focus on everything else. They'll help you and you'll come out happier than you went in.
 
You do not need a partner to start helping yourself; you just need to want to improve yourself. And a partner is not a de facto therapist and it's best to see this now and search for a real therapist because I can tell you want help.

I recommend therapy with an Interpersonal Relationship specialist because you can go to speak to people that are trained for 8 to 12 years to get to know you; telling you more about yourself than any partner could most of the time. They are trained to help and they do not judge you; they want to help you feel okay with yourself and they want to help you feel okay with people. They will help you see yourself and help you improve what you don't like.

You can go see a therapist and leave out all the zoo stuff and just focus on everything else. They'll help you and you'll come out happier than you went in.
Sounds more like a sociopath lol
 
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