Any other autistics here?

Never been on board with the self-diagnosis crew but the idea that people are trying to be cool is ludicrous
You think so, huh? Then why the recent astronomical upsurge in people who claim to be "autisitc"/"Asperger's"/"On the spectrum"? What *POSSIBLE* purpose beyond the whole "pity me, I'm broken!" play to get in with one group or another can explain it?

I'm going to give you a hint: In my roughly 45 years since being diagnosed as (in the parlance of the day) a "high-functioning autistic with hyperactivity disorder" (Which today would PROBABLY be written up as "Asperger's and ADHD"), it's become INCREDIBLY easy to recognize an actual autistic, wherever they may fit on the spectrum, and at least to me, it's so fucking obvious when somebody is LARPing it that they might just as well be wearing a sandwich board that reads "I'm doing it for the attention!" in flashing neon letters. Some can, at least to a degree, and usually in fairly short (hours, tops, more often, an hour is pushing the limit, and for some, it's a minute-by-minute effort that takes SERIOUS work) sessions can do what many of us do - the term I most often use is "norming up", some I've discussed it with call it "masking", or "passing normal" - we can work damned hard at it - sometimes literally sweat-running-down-your-face hard, and pass as *MOSTLY* "normal". But *EVERY* *SINGLE* *AUTISTIC* *I'VE* *EVER* *MET*, including myself, will ALWAYS "slip" sooner or later. And the longer I'm in contact with them, whether face to face, or via electronic means, the more glaringly apparent the "slips" become. There are DOZENS here on the forum who I can tell, just by looking at what they've said (and especially how they've said it) are (or should be, if they haven't been officially diagnosed) on the spectrum to one degree or another. MOST of them have never "claimed" it, and at least to ME, they don't need to. It's written on their forehead for those with the eyes to see. There are dozens more who are LARPing so blatantly that it's almost comical watching them attempt to pass as "I'm an aspie", and failing so miserably that all I can do is lean back and laugh at how poorly they do it.

"Set a thief to catch a thief", is an old saying. I'm here to tell you that it applies just as well if you change "thief" to "autistic".
 
Actually, smart-ass, it's pretty damned easy to tell when someone is faking their so-called "problem". Especially when you're someone who DOES have the problem they're LARPing. "Knowledge from living on the inside" trumps *EVERYTHING* that the book or the movie might have to say on the topic.
Dude I love larpers. Reminds me of when I used to larp being a psychopath. God being 12 was fun. Too bad my quirkiness could be explained by autism. That disconnect from society was, misdiagnosed in my brain.

Oh and watching other edgy larpers. I always loved them. Even “dated” a guy who claimed he has aspd and npd. He was really edgy. Miss him dearly. Well not really. Then I dated a real npd that was. Equally as entertaining.

You know I’ve must’ve done a great job larping because today I almost attempted suicide. But I wasn’t particularly larping anything at that moment. I simply made the mistake of cleaning my room.

I’ve never seen someone attempt to larp autism though, maybe tiktok. But I don’t use it. Do you have an examples of larping of autism.

Oh I just remembered the Reddit thing. Fake disorder cringe. But that’s mostly did (which I thought was supposed to be rare!)

Don’t call me a smart ass I’m really only average intelligence unless you’re trying to stroke my ego! Then go right ahead.

Man. I wish I took my meds yesterday.
 
Dude I love larpers. Reminds me of when I used to larp being a psychopath. God being 12 was fun. Too bad my quirkiness could be explained by autism. That disconnect from society was, misdiagnosed in my brain.

Oh and watching other edgy larpers. I always loved them. Even “dated” a guy who claimed he has aspd and npd. He was really edgy. Miss him dearly. Well not really. Then I dated a real npd that was. Equally as entertaining.

You know I’ve must’ve done a great job larping because today I almost attempted suicide. But I wasn’t particularly larping anything at that moment. I simply made the mistake of cleaning my room.

I’ve never seen someone attempt to larp autism though, maybe tiktok. But I don’t use it. Do you have an examples of larping of autism.

Oh I just remembered the Reddit thing. Fake disorder cringe. But that’s mostly did (which I thought was supposed to be rare!)

Don’t call me a smart ass I’m really only average intelligence unless you’re trying to stroke my ego! Then go right ahead.

Man. I wish I took my meds yesterday.
I’m just quirky.
 
Dude I love larpers. Reminds me of when I used to larp being a psychopath. God being 12 was fun. Too bad my quirkiness could be explained by autism. That disconnect from society was, misdiagnosed in my brain.

Oh and watching other edgy larpers. I always loved them. Even “dated” a guy who claimed he has aspd and npd. He was really edgy. Miss him dearly. Well not really. Then I dated a real npd that was. Equally as entertaining.

You know I’ve must’ve done a great job larping because today I almost attempted suicide. But I wasn’t particularly larping anything at that moment. I simply made the mistake of cleaning my room.

I’ve never seen someone attempt to larp autism though, maybe tiktok. But I don’t use it. Do you have an examples of larping of autism.

Oh I just remembered the Reddit thing. Fake disorder cringe. But that’s mostly did (which I thought was supposed to be rare!)

Don’t call me a smart ass I’m really only average intelligence unless you’re trying to stroke my ego! Then go right ahead.

Man. I wish I took my meds yesterday.
"Too bad my quirkiness could be explained by autism."
No, your quirkiness cannot be explained by autism, if you were not professionally diagnosed.
 
I could say I've been diagnosed with autism before it was trendy, back in the '90s. And I have been, although I tend to brush it aside. I like to think of myself as eccentric instead. There is no point in dwelling on your disorders.
 
You think so, huh? Then why the recent astronomical upsurge in people who claim to be "autisitc"/"Asperger's"/"On the spectrum"? What *POSSIBLE* purpose beyond the whole "pity me, I'm broken!" play to get in with one group or another can explain it?

I'm going to give you a hint: In my roughly 45 years since being diagnosed as (in the parlance of the day) a "high-functioning autistic with hyperactivity disorder" (Which today would PROBABLY be written up as "Asperger's and ADHD"), it's become INCREDIBLY easy to recognize an actual autistic, wherever they may fit on the spectrum, and at least to me, it's so fucking obvious when somebody is LARPing it that they might just as well be wearing a sandwich board that reads "I'm doing it for the attention!" in flashing neon letters. Some can, at least to a degree, and usually in fairly short (hours, tops, more often, an hour is pushing the limit, and for some, it's a minute-by-minute effort that takes SERIOUS work) sessions can do what many of us do - the term I most often use is "norming up", some I've discussed it with call it "masking", or "passing normal" - we can work damned hard at it - sometimes literally sweat-running-down-your-face hard, and pass as *MOSTLY* "normal". But *EVERY* *SINGLE* *AUTISTIC* *I'VE* *EVER* *MET*, including myself, will ALWAYS "slip" sooner or later. And the longer I'm in contact with them, whether face to face, or via electronic means, the more glaringly apparent the "slips" become. There are DOZENS here on the forum who I can tell, just by looking at what they've said (and especially how they've said it) are (or should be, if they haven't been officially diagnosed) on the spectrum to one degree or another. MOST of them have never "claimed" it, and at least to ME, they don't need to. It's written on their forehead for those with the eyes to see. There are dozens more who are LARPing so blatantly that it's almost comical watching them attempt to pass as "I'm an aspie", and failing so miserably that all I can do is lean back and laugh at how poorly they do it.

"Set a thief to catch a thief", is an old saying. I'm here to tell you that it applies just as well if you change "thief" to "autistic".
Good work on this. "Pity me, I'm broken!" Yes, that's probably the main reason people fake it. Other reasons: an excuse to not have a job, or to do less if they do have a job.
 
I’ve never seen someone attempt to larp autism though, maybe tiktok. But I don’t use it. Do you have an examples of larping of autism.
That's part of the problem - I have no way to *TELL* you. It's something that has to be seen. Trying to explain it, or even what to look for, is like trying to explain the color blue to a man who's been blind from birth - I have no shared (or possibly even shareable) referents, no vocabulary, no way of explaining what it is I'm seeing to someone who doesn't have the same "inner vocabulary". It's never any one specific thing - it's ALWAYS a "cloud" of things, some that I don't even consciously recognize - it's the complete gestalt, each part of which is utterly meaningless when considered alone, but when taken as part of an aggregate, overall picture, is as clear as a sign that reads "I'm an Aspie!" or "I'm pretending I'm an Aspie", as the case may be.

Hell, I can't even explain why I can't explain it in a way that I'd accept if someone else were to try to tell me the same thing!
 
"Too bad my quirkiness could be explained by autism."
No, your quirkiness cannot be explained by autism, if you were not professionally diagnosed.
Does my psych kicking me out of treatment to get diagnosed count 🥺

Though I think the time I doxxed myself to a bunch of psychopaths might top that. Hey if you want my id just ask.

That dreaded ocd psychologist filling my head with thoughts and dreams of autism. What a wonderful path for me! I dare say, I have made it my ultimate goal to follow that path since. I sure love ripping my own fucking hair out because someone sat in my seat (recent.) or me counting ibrophen to od on because I was overwhelmed by cleaning my room. (Today.) Or all the social difficulties I faced my entire life! Those were fun. Oh oh and my inability to shut up about my amazing intrests. My violent rocking back and forth. My skin picking. It’s all but quirkiness. You know autism wasn’t even my idea. Though I wish it was cuz maybe I could convince myself I was larping and be NT.

The school pulling me out of class for social group was just a social experiment. I’m just not like the other girls.
 
I could say I've been diagnosed with autism before it was trendy, back in the '90s. And I have been, although I tend to brush it aside. I like to think of myself as eccentric instead. There is no point in dwelling on your disorders.
EXACTLY! I do what I can to minimize the "obvious things", but otherwise, fuck it - I am what I am, and if that doesnt' fit with YOUR concept of what should be, tough shit!
 
That's part of the problem - I have no way to *TELL* you. It's something that has to be seen. Trying to explain it, or even what to look for, is like trying to explain the color blue to a man who's been blind from birth - I have no shared (or possibly even shareable) referents, no vocabulary, no way of explaining what it is I'm seeing to someone who doesn't have the same "inner vocabulary". It's never any one specific thing - it's ALWAYS a "cloud" of things, some that I don't even consciously recognize - it's the complete gestalt, each part of which is utterly meaningless when considered alone, but when taken as part of an aggregate, overall picture, is as clear as a sign that reads "I'm an Aspie!" or "I'm pretending I'm an Aspie", as the case may be.

Hell, I can't even explain why I can't explain it in a way that I'd accept if someone else were to try to tell me the same thing!
I appreciate your attempt to explain. I geuss I’m not autistic. Just quirky I do say!
 
Does my psych kicking me out of treatment to get diagnosed count 🥺

Though I think the time I doxxed myself to a bunch of psychopaths might top that. Hey if you want my id just ask.

That dreaded ocd psychologist filling my head with thoughts and dreams of autism. What a wonderful path for me! I dare say, I have made it my ultimate goal to follow that path since. I sure love ripping my own fucking hair out because someone sat in my seat (recent.) or me counting ibrophen to od on because I was overwhelmed by cleaning my room. (Today.) Or all the social difficulties I faced my entire life! Those were fun. Oh oh and my inability to shut up about my amazing intrests. My violent rocking back and forth. My skin picking. It’s all but quirkiness. You know autism wasn’t even my idea. Though I wish it was cuz maybe I could convince myself I was larping and be NT.

The school pulling me out of class for social group was just a social experiment. I’m just not like the other girls.
You dont think this joint is going to be at all helpful, do you? Better head back to that Psych's office....at least he/she wont do much damage.
 
You dont think this joint is going to be at all helpful, do you? Better head back to that Psych's office....at least he/she wont do much damage.
Nothing is helpful. Never has been. Bpd got me nowhere. Depression anxiety. Psychopath larping (when I was 12.)

I’ve been miserable my whole life. And to be frankly honest I’ll be miserable for the rest. I genuinely hoped those psychopaths would kill me but they never came.

To be honest. I actually feel a deep ammount of injustice for not being diagnosed as a kid. I felt so alone all the time and continued to act out. I was skinny cause I wouldn’t eat. Had no friends. Hell they forced me into therapy and social group at a young age. But for some reason no one was like hey, fun idea, maybe she’s autistic.

I wish I had just gone on thinking I was bpd so I could believe there was a cure (DBT which I got kicked out of the first, finished the second with no improvement.) I’m not trying hard enough. I’m not talking right. Why can’t i just be normal.

I still love this forum though. No matter what happens. I’ve been lurking for years. I love it so much.
 
Does my psych kicking me out of treatment to get diagnosed count 🥺

Though I think the time I doxxed myself to a bunch of psychopaths might top that. Hey if you want my id just ask.

That dreaded ocd psychologist filling my head with thoughts and dreams of autism. What a wonderful path for me! I dare say, I have made it my ultimate goal to follow that path since. I sure love ripping my own fucking hair out because someone sat in my seat (recent.) or me counting ibrophen to od on because I was overwhelmed by cleaning my room. (Today.) Or all the social difficulties I faced my entire life! Those were fun. Oh oh and my inability to shut up about my amazing intrests. My violent rocking back and forth. My skin picking. It’s all but quirkiness. You know autism wasn’t even my idea. Though I wish it was cuz maybe I could convince myself I was larping and be NT.

The school pulling me out of class for social group was just a social experiment. I’m just not like the other girls.
What you're describing isn't autism. My best guess would be OCD, and it sounds like you've got a sprinkle of self-harm with it. And if it were anything other than a scream for attention, you'd know that all a "suicide attempt" by ibuprofen OD would do would be put you in the hospital for a day or three, and maybe give you a bleeding ulcer to remind you of your foolishness.
 
What you're describing isn't autism. My best guess would be OCD, and it sounds like you've got a sprinkle of self-harm with it. And if it were anything other than a scream for attention, you'd know that all a "suicide attempt" by ibuprofen OD would do would be put you in the hospital for a day or three, and maybe give you a bleeding ulcer to remind you of your foolishness.
TFW when an ocd perfessional won’t diagnose you with ocd but someone on the internet will.

Yes I did find a case study of someone who did die from ibrophin od that I was going off of though, I’ll get you the link if you need.

There’s nothing wrong with me.
 
I feel bad for op who just wanted to find others like them to be honest. I’m done having my little breakdown. That was just quirkiness I promise

I love you all still though.
 
Does my psych kicking me out of treatment to get diagnosed count 🥺

Though I think the time I doxxed myself to a bunch of psychopaths might top that. Hey if you want my id just ask.

That dreaded ocd psychologist filling my head with thoughts and dreams of autism. What a wonderful path for me! I dare say, I have made it my
Nothing is helpful. Never has been. Bpd got me nowhere. Depression anxiety. Psychopath larping (when I was 12.)

I’ve been miserable my whole life. And to be frankly honest I’ll be miserable for the rest. I genuinely hoped those psychopaths would kill me but they never came.

To be honest. I actually feel a deep ammount of injustice for not being diagnosed as a kid. I felt so alone all the time and continued to act out. I was skinny cause I wouldn’t eat. Had no friends. Hell they forced me into therapy and social group at a young age. But for some reason no one was like hey, fun idea, maybe she’s autistic.

I wish I had just gone on thinking I was bpd so I could believe there was a cure (DBT which I got kicked out of the first, finished the second with no improvement.) I’m not trying hard enough. I’m not talking right. Why can’t i just be normal.

I still love this forum though. No matter what happens. I’ve been lurking for years. I love it so much.
Although I don't see any autism there, you certainly do have a lot going on, for sure. It is my deepest, most sincere hope that you'll get the help you need. I truly want that for you.
For now, on this site, relax and please know you're among friends and other kindred spirits who want only the best for you.
Thank-you for opening up.
 
Although I don't see any autism there, you certainly do have a lot going on, for sure. It is my deepest, most sincere hope that you'll get the help you need. I truly want that for you.
For now, on this site, relax and please know you're among friends and other kindred spirits who want only the best for you.
Thank-you for opening up.
Thank you for your kindness.
 
EXACTLY! I do what I can to minimize the "obvious things", but otherwise, fuck it - I am what I am, and if that doesnt' fit with YOUR concept of what should be, tough shit!
It's really nobody's business anyway. Plus letting people know that you are autistic gives them an excuse to discriminate against you and treat you differently, and not in a good way. It's essentially a checkmate that can be used against you in social situations.

The best thing would be to disregard these labels entirely.
 
I really really don't understand why someone that's neurotypical would want to fake being autistic. Seriously?!? We are bullied and ostracized just for existing. Either that or constantly Invalidated. 90% of the fucking time it's just a struggle to get people to believe we are on the spectrum. We are often meet with "you don't seem autistic" or "prove you are". Which is fucking rude as hell. You don't tell someone to prove they have diabetes, or that they have clinical depression. SMH.

Meanwhile neurotypicals wonder why it's so hard for us to make friends with anyone really. Well for one nobody ever tries to understand us. Even therapists want to change us into something more tangible. More "typical". The average bloke (including you) has no idea what it's like to be marginalized from the start because their brain is wired differently. To be part of a minority that is entirely different than everyone else. Behaviorally, Socially, Sensory, you name it. Imagine being gaslight your entire life even though people acknowledge your strange but won't accept any label to explain why that is.

Imagine being ruthlessly bullied from a young age just for being different, and then someone has the nerve to come along and say your not autistic. Imagine some asshole thinking they know your lived experience better than you do. On the other side of the coin. You do realize there are a ton of people who fall through the cracks and don't get diagnosed but are likely autistic? Im sorry but I had to respond to your comment. I realize there is some ignorant ass people out there but throwing your "you guys are all fakes" narrative around doesn't actually help autistic people either. Now does it? No it just leaves the impression that anyone that's says they're are autistic is up for questioning.

Remember that reality isn't so simple: like you paint it to be. I personally have a dx but I've meet people who identify as on the spectrum without one who were clearly autistic. I've also met clearly autistic individuals who were misdiagnosed by 'professionals' with something similar but different. Only for it to be corrected years down the road by a separate psychologist who specialized in ASD. Just throwing that out there. Sadly the op just wanted to find people he/she could relate to. Seems like this thread belongs in the dumpster fire now because idiots have to ruin shit and some people on this website have an inflated ego 👍
Look through my comments on this thread, as well as those of everyone else, and show me one that says, "prove it." While you do that, find one saying, "you don't seem autistic" and one where I said, "you guys are all fakes." I said NONE of those things, nor did anyone else.
No one demanded any proof.

I simply demanded people quit using the labels when they haven't been diagnosed. I say that as a former help giver of someone outside my family with a REAL and debilitating case of autism.
It was heartbreaking.

Yes, contrary to your first sentence, there are many so called "neurotypicals" claiming, outright, they are autistic; in fact, more who do than do not. I am saying, quite simply to those with no interest in twisting my words as you are, to consult a mental health professional for testing and diagnosis, and to stop lightening the seriousness of this often terrible affliction.

Don't worry. Without a diagnosis of autism, you can still be treated for the many things you say are disrupting you, mentally, with the right therapist.
Problem: Not many "neurotypicals" will seek professional help. They already have what they perceive to be their own conditions, and they'd prefer that wasn't tampered with.

"Even therapists want to change us into something more tangible." Change you from what? You presented with an array of maladies, none of which I doubt, but how do you call that array of maladies "tangible?" It is anything but.

You are correct, you will not receive the far too general diagnosis of "neurotypical," since that's not even a formal medical category. A final and formal diagnosis of "neurotypical" isn't even legal. A professional might acknowledge your description of yourself that way, but would then be required to narrow down your separate afflictions and treat them separately.

"...a ton of people who fall through the cracks and don't get diagnosed but are likely autistic." With my last paragraph in mind, you would get the treatment you needed, even if not diagnosed as autistic. That's important, is it not?

"Neurotypical" is a term the neurodiversity movement uses to promote acceptance, something I do believe valid, btw.

"The average bloke (including you) has no idea what it's like to be marginalized."
Do not dare attempt to tell me I don't know how it feels to be marginalized.
Don't even try it. That's as far as I'm going with that on this thread.

No, contrary to what you said, the OP said nothing about "finding people he/she could relate to." He/she didn't say that at all. OP said, "Had a discussion earlier that made me curious about how many autistic zoophiles are on this forum."
That's not an attempt to "relate" to anyone at all; they didn't even say they're autistic.

Discontinuing your twisting of other people's words, to make them say what you need them to say, would be a good start toward improving your life.
 
I really really don't understand why someone that's neurotypical would want to fake being autistic. Seriously?!? We are bullied and ostracized just for existing. Either that or constantly Invalidated. 90% of the fucking time it's just a struggle to get people to believe we are on the spectrum. We are often meet with "you don't seem autistic" or "prove you are". Which is fucking rude as hell. You don't tell someone to prove they have diabetes, or that they have clinical depression. SMH.

Meanwhile neurotypicals wonder why it's so hard for us to make friends with anyone really. Well for one nobody ever tries to understand us. Even therapists want to change us into something more tangible. More "typical". The average bloke (including you) has no idea what it's like to be marginalized from the start because their brain is wired differently. To be part of a minority that is entirely different than everyone else. Behaviorally, Socially, Sensory, you name it. Imagine being gaslight your entire life even though people acknowledge your strange but won't accept any label to explain why that is.

Imagine being ruthlessly bullied from a young age just for being different, and then someone has the nerve to come along and say your not autistic. Imagine some asshole thinking they know your lived experience better than you do. On the other side of the coin. You do realize there are a ton of people who fall through the cracks and don't get diagnosed but are likely autistic? Im sorry but I had to respond to your comment. I realize there is some ignorant ass people out there but throwing your "you guys are all fakes" narrative around doesn't actually help autistic people either. Now does it? No it just leaves the impression that anyone that's says they're are autistic is up for questioning.

Remember that reality isn't so simple: like you paint it to be. I personally have a dx but I've meet people who identify as on the spectrum without one who were clearly autistic. I've also met clearly autistic individuals who were misdiagnosed by 'professionals' with something similar but different. Only for it to be corrected years down the road by a separate psychologist who specialized in ASD. Just throwing that out there. Sadly the op just wanted to find people he/she could relate to. Seems like this thread belongs in the dumpster fire now because idiots have to ruin shit and some people on this website have an inflated ego 👍
And some people become the disease they struggle with. The village lacked an idiot. You just completed the Roster
 
I have been labelled everything from psychiatrists, it took years for them to label me with autism and mild Tourette's, I also have extreme Misophonia. So life's been interesting to say the least.
 
I was diagnosed with aspergers in High School. If I do have it, I don't have it too bad, at least I don't think I do.
 
Wow, I came here to enjoy fellow people who had the same diagnosis as me but reading through the shit show up there just made it more depressing. Anyhow nice to meet you all
 
You know what. Sorry I misread your intentions. Sorry if I don't have any fucking clue how to be Socially accepted. That would be the fucking autism (diagnosis) you just Claimed I didn't have. Read your 4th paragraph again. Will you? You act like I'm not currently diagnosed?? Like you personally fucking know me or anything about my mental health history?!? Ok. Pal. Sure. What's sad is how hard I've tried to make freinds throught my life. Time after Time people have treated like I'm weird. Time after Time people have walked away. Or treated me like garbage. It's been decades of it. I'm getting old. I'm over it. I'm over being so stressed by everything in life that it leads to several meltdowns a day. I thought being on this forum with people who have similar interests would be somewhere I would fit in but I give up. I don't need to talk to anyone. I don't need human interaction. I no longer care. Peace 👋
Still twisting my words to suit you, are you? You see, the affinity you have for doing that is contributing to that social problem upon which you're leaning so much. It's a part of it.

Show me where I claimed you weren't diagnosed. Show me where I even intimated it.
Notable you wrote four 3-5 line paragraphs in protest of my comment, but for some reason, never said you'd been diagnosed.
Why you never said that, certainly is a mystery...it certainly is called into question.
 
I have been labelled everything from psychiatrists, it took years for them to label me with autism and mild Tourette's, I also have extreme Misophonia. So life's been interesting to say the least.
I know it can be exasperating when psychs don't agree with each other.
Let me guess...I'll bet they also dug through your childhood, looking for a reason to blame your parents? They often do before arriving at a possible brain-chemical cause.
 
Wow, I came here to enjoy fellow people who had the same diagnosis as me but reading through the shit show up there just made it more depressing. Anyhow nice to meet you all
Sorry about that. Here is a much better thread for that, with lots of people with whom to share, and who are still active. It's nearly two years old, but people still read it. A comment by you will move it back to top of the "what's new" list and more people will see it, and maybe comment. It would be good to get it active again. I hope it helps. Good luck to you.
https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/how-is-your-mental-health.12778/
 
I quoted your rant in the last reply. Read paragraph 4 right here I even copied it for you.

"Don't worry. Without a diagnosis of autism, you can still be treated for the many things you say are disrupting you, mentally, with the right therapist.
Problem: Not many "neurotypicals" will seek professional help. They already have what they perceive to be their own conditions, and they'd prefer that wasn't tampered with."




Your words are your words. I said in my first reply I had a Dx. (It's a short acronym for Diagnosis used in the medical field. Should've known that if your such an autism expert 🙄)

Anyhow. I don't care if you respond. Or whatever you have to say. My points been made. I'm not coming to the forum anymore.
I said "blah blah?" Where? And no, I still didn't claim you were not diagnosed. I said you can be treated without a diagnosis.
And, oh yes, you'll be back.
 
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