What is the magic?

[TheHound77]

Why is it that as men we find it so mesmerizing and exciting to see a woman be mounted and fucked by an animal?
I mean I enjoy fucking a female dog as much as the next guy, and watching other men do so it’s also a turn on for sure! But nothing beats the rush and the thrill of watching a woman desperately enjoying and orgasming as a large animal pumps her full of cum.
What is it that makes this fetish so powerful?

 

[pes]

Why is it that as men we find it so mesmerizing and exciting to see a woman be mounted and fucked by an animal?

Apparently not everybody does.

What is it that makes this fetish so powerful?

And it is this power that makes life for actual normal zoophiles much more difficult. Without you guys, zoo might have either been legalized already or there would be less laws against it.

 

[TheHound77]

Apparently not everybody does.

And it is this power that makes life for actual normal zoophiles much more difficult. Without you guys, zoo might have either been legalized already or there would be less laws against it.

Can you unpack this statement a bit more? What is an “actual normal zoophile”, and how do men who get turned on by women having zoosex make life hard for them?

 

[pes]

A zoophile is someone for whom zoophilia is a sexual orientation. That means they are not interested in having a relationship with other humans. Zoophiles treat animals as their partners.

Your fetish is for people who are not zoophiles. And it is your fetish that is behind pretty much all commercial zoo porn which is almost entirely equal to animal abuse. This shows zoophilia in bad light and leads to laws against zoophilia.
As far as I know there has ever been only one company that produced zoophile acceptable porn (Petlust) and even they turned out to be shady and had some questionable content for example with snakes.

99.5% of all reports and removals I am behind here: https://www.zoovilleforum.net/threads/the-abusive-porn-cleanup-project.26696/ are either commercial zoo porn made for fetishists by companies that do not absolutely give any fuck about the animals or fetishists treating animals like crap because they are not zoophiles.
This includes men using dogs and other animals as live sex toys for women to watch them fuck the dogs and women using animals of various species as sex toys to make porn for said men.
No actual zoophile would ever treat an animal the way that warrants a report.
And these are just the more juicy reports I decided to make public. In reality I report more than just that.

Your women watching fetish is one of the large sources of animal abuse in the "zoo community".
It is what is most seen by the public and it is one of the large reasons why zoophilia is seen as badly by the public as it is.

 

[TheHound77]

A zoophile is someone for whom zoophilia is a sexual orientation. That means they are not interested in having a relationship with other humans. Zoophiles treat animals as their partners.

Your fetish is for people who are not zoophiles. And it is your fetish that is behind pretty much all commercial zoo porn which is almost entirely equal to animal abuse. This shows zoophilia in bad light and leads to laws against zoophilia.

So are you saying one cannot be a genuine zoophile and a zoo voyeur at the same time?

 

[pes]

So are you saying one cannot be a genuine zoophile and a zoo voyeur at the same time?

I think it is pretty clear what I am saying.

 

[iskjavi]

Why is it that as men we find it so mesmerizing and exciting to see a woman be mounted and fucked by an animal?
I mean I enjoy fucking a female dog as much as the next guy, and watching other men do so it’s also a turn on for sure! But nothing beats the rush and the thrill of watching a woman desperately enjoying and orgasming as a large animal pumps her full of cum.
What is it that makes this fetish so powerful?

I find that anyone who gets mounted looks way more sexy then a human mounting a dog (sorry not sorry) and find most of the zoo snobs have an issue with those of us who enjoy having both a human partner and k9 partner.

 

[iskjavi]

So are you saying one cannot be a genuine zoophile and a zoo voyeur at the same time?

Yes you can.

 

[pes]

find most of the zoo snobs have an issue with those of us who enjoy having both a human partner and k9 partner.

Amazing. Even after you read what the problem is, you completely failed to grasp it.

 

[TheHound77]

I think it is pretty clear what I am saying.

I am sure it is to you, Although at first glance it comes off as rather judge mental and dismissive of others expression or sexual persuasion. I can see how fetishism can be problematic and detrimental, but so too can “pure” zoophilia. I think that has more to do with an individuals moral compass and how they choose to act upon and expressed their desire.
There is plenty of fucked up porn catering to pretty much any fetish or persuasion. There are also plenty of individuals who find safe and sane ways to express and explore their fetish, whatever that may be. A person with pedophilic fantasies may choose to role-play with a consensual adult partner for example and never abuse children. That is their moral choice, whereas there lust or desire is not something they can easily choose or change.

In any case that is not the question posed in this thread. I am asking what is it that causes this fetish or fascination with women being mounted, not whether it is right or wrong.

 

[iskjavi]

Amazing. Even after you read what the problem is, you completely failed to grasp it.

Oh i read the problem and its more that you zoo snobs think that only those who have an interest in the fetish part are the only ones who are the problem when its not just us.

 

[pes]

In any case that is not the question posed in this thread. I am asking what is it that causes this fetish or fascination with women being mounted, not whether it is right or wrong.

Right. Well from my experience, for a lot of people here it is some sort of degradation fantasy/fetish.

Oh i read the problem and its more that you zoo snobs think that only those who have an interest in the fetish part are the only ones who are the problem when its not just us.

And again failed to understand what has been said. "one of the large sources of animal abuse"

 

[iskjavi]

I am sure it is to you, Although at first glance it comes off as rather judge mental and dismissive of others expression or sexual persuasion. I can see how fetishism can be problematic and detrimental, but so too can “pure” zoophilia. I think that has more to do with an individuals moral compass and how they choose to act upon and expressed their desire.
There is plenty of fucked up porn catering to pretty much any fetish or persuasion. There are also plenty of individuals who find safe and sane ways to express and explore their fetish, whatever that may be. A person with pedophilic fantasies may choose to role-play with a consensual adult partner for example and never abuse children. That is their moral choice, whereas there lust or desire is not something they can easily choose or change.

In any case that is not the question posed in this thread. I am asking what is it that causes this fetish or fascination with women being mounted, not whether it is right or wrong.

I can answer but its from a both gender stand point.

So its the thrill and feeling of seeing one who has been mounted in a position of bitch. Seeing a guy or girl bent over and getting railed by a dog is a turn on cause at that point its more the simple seeing one being put in their place.

 

[TheHound77]

Right. Well from my experience, for a lot of people here it is some sort of degradation fantasy/fetish.

And again failed to understand what has been said. "one of the large sources of animal abuse"

Right! I think you may be onto something. A misogynistic degradation fetish may be a large component.

 

[iskjavi]

Right. Well from my experience, for a lot of people here it is some sort of degradation fantasy/fetish.

And again failed to understand what has been said. "one of the large sources of animal abuse"

So by your own words you see the zoo lovers as a clean and pure group without issue as well as a group that could do no wrong.

 

[pes]

So by your own words you see the zoo lovers as a clean and pure group without issue as well as a group that could do no wrong.

I mean are you actually able to read and comprehend anything?

 

[iskjavi]

I mean are you actually able to read and comprehend anything?

I read it exactly as you wrote while also reading your double meaning.

 

[pes]

I read it exactly as you wrote while also reading your double meaning.

There is no double meaning. I said "one of the sources" and that exactly means there is more than one.

 

[iskjavi]

There is no double meaning. I said "one of the sources" and that exactly means there is more than one.

Its whatever. Either way question was answered and thats that

 

[TheHound77]

I read it exactly as you wrote while also reading your double meaning.

Let’s not let the discussion become sidetracked. I think Pes understood and has accepted by proposition that is not be a threat about what it means to be a True Zoo.

And he brings up a much more interesting point about treating a fetish as a fetish, and taking responsibility for making sure it’s not destructive.

Personally I don’t think there’s anything wrong with enjoying the sight of a woman or a man even be fucked by an animal, as long as you are owning your shit and making sure nobody (animal or human), is being harmed or abused.

Also from my experience with BDSM, I would strongly suspect that exploring this fetish would be much more gratifying and even edifying if there is a bond of love and trust between the parties invloved, and everybody is taking care of each other.

 

[iskjavi]

Let’s not let the discussion become sidetracked. I think Pes understood and has accepted by proposition that is not be a threat about what it means to be a True Zoo.

Hence why i said what I said just before this.

Personally I don’t think there’s anything wrong with enjoying the sight of a woman or a man even be fucked by an animal, as long as you are owning your shit and making sure nobody (animal or human), is being harmed or abused.

Exactly. Do things proper, Research things, and be safe