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What would you tell others about zoofilia? would you tell anyone at all ?

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Oxido

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in your own words would you ever defend having sex with dogs or other animals or justify it ? how would you explain it if it ever came up in a conversation? im not saying to reveal your lifestyle but would you ever try to explain it or the world just isnt ready to it.
sometimes whenever it comes up people often go "ewww" and "nooo thats disgusting" or something like that. and i just stop myself from rambling about it.
 
This is complicated. So I would not actually attempt to explain it unless I absolutely had to.
Most people do not see animals as zoophiles do and do not recognize the behaviors animals use to ask for sex or the choice there is.
A lot of people see animals as lesser beings, basically a simple organism driven by instinct with no capacity for thought or feelings.
At that point it becomes incredibly difficult to explain the point of view of a zoophile especially in a limited amount of time.
 
I try to not get engaged in such discussions, but when it comes up I tend to offer my thoughts on the matter. I usually keep it relatively simple and try to stick to the harm or lack thereof. It has on some occasions lead people to suspect, but whatever. It does help that I'm known to be a student of philosophy and I have claimed that it along with some other subjects, such as related persons having sex where there's no possibility of offspring, the trolley experiment, etc and defend it as "A textbook example of challenging one to think about why they think what they do and if there are logical reasons for it".
 
I've had alot of conversations about it, irl and online, mostly just because I feel uncomfortable taking moral standpoints for granted and taking about my opinions with peoples whose ability to reason i find admirable helps me come to conclusions I think are defensible.
I've never had the conversation in the form of "justifying people having sex with animals" but I usually end up arguing the negative when it comes to "is zoophilia bad" because im looking for someone to give me an argument as to why it is bad that stands up to questioning.

The way I would go about "justifying it" is by having the person arguing that it is bad quantify precisely why its bad, usually this turns into "animals are of not able to communicate adequately to express consent" which id talk about whether active pursuit of sexual engagement can be taken as consent or they throw out some comparison to paedophilia to which leads to talking about the routs of why paedophilia is bad which I will argue are the almost unavoidable risk of provable physical and mental harm and that im yet to see the same proven risk to zoophilia in all cases.

Id encourage anyone to have conversations like that about any touchy moral subject if you get the chance to do it in a safe environment, otherwise you may find yourself coming to a conclusion just because it lets you do something that you want to or because people around you think it.
 
I tell people that I have rules about me. You cannot be mad at me, upset with me, pissed off at me, hate me, or anything else toward me, about what and how I feel, what I say and how I say it, what I think and how I think it. If you do not want the truth don't ask the question, because for one I DO NOT CARE, nor am I pissed off upset, etc at your feelings. And if you are any of those things against me, well at least you have feelings for me. Then I will give said people my thoughts. If you do not like anything I have to say, NOT MY PROBLEM, it is your problem, and you cannot make your problem, my problem. If you cannot love and respect me for who I am and what I am about, you have no reason to be in my life.
 
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dogfan50 said:
I tell people that I have rules about me. You cannot be mad at me, upset with me, pissed off at me, hate me, or anything else toward me, about what and how I feel, what I say and how I say it, what I think and how I think it. If you do not want the truth don't ask the question, because for one I DO NOT CARE, nor am I pissed off upset, etc at your feelings. And if you are any of those things against me, well at least you have feeling for me. Then I will give said people my thoughts.
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all of this while you dont cause harm or impose your ideas on anyone else is totally fine. people dont understand that unless we harm or impose my ideas on someone else its all my business.
 
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This is complicated. So I would not actually attempt to explain it unless I absolutely had to.
Most people do not see animals as zoophiles do and do not recognize the behaviors animals use to ask for sex or the choice there is.
A lot of people see animals as lesser beings, basically a simple organism driven by instinct with no capacity for thought or feelings.
At that point it becomes incredibly difficult to explain the point of view of a zoophile especially in a limited amount of time.
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That why I usually try to get the topic of animal intelligence, to get away that old idea most people have about all animals do is instinct, and instead is culturally transmitted from the parents and other animals they interact during their development, and also actually thinking and problem solving.

If people don't understand that and just look at animals as a different thing, and ignore how much we have in common (specially mammals), forget about them trying to understand and even less accept zoo, or that they can also consent (I mean, is not like people that are deaf-mute, or speak different languages, can't have sex and consent about it...)
 
It's so risky telling others, I feel like I would only tell someone if they were my bf/husband and I somehow got the idea that they may be into it aswell. The dream is to just find someone who I already know is zoo but IDK where to start
 
The truth is that there are more people who practice or just enjoy zoophilia than we can imagine. Of course they don't talk about it or deny it. Many years before the internet, here where I live I always heard many stories about women who had sex with dogs in their homes, how many of these stories were real I don't know, certainly many.
 
I avoid the topic neutrally, I set it as slightly funny and positive. I don't do anything between average people anymore when it comes to that. Does not make sense. I tried in one or two cases, but they were just as stupid afterwards as before. It makes about as much sense as explaining anything to a troll.

Of course, I talk more about this among zoo people.
 
I have mumbled stuff at parties before when I was drunk, horny, and thinking about my dog. I'm fairly certain most of my close friends know or suspect my sexual orientation because of this. I distinctly remember speaking my thoughts out loud talking about my dogs knot and turning bright red when realized what I was saying out loud and that one person was paying attention and staring at me. I cannot be trusted with secrets when intoxicated. I quickly left the room. No one has ever directly said anything or asked me about it though. We have 3 intact male dogs, my partner and I are both female, and we both actively participate with all 3 of them. She is the only person whom I have openly discussed zooohilia with. Our relationship evolved fairly naturally though so our conversations never even suggested that I may be a monster. Weird and unusual, definitely, but not a bad person. She had already made up her mind that I was a decent person with an unusual sexual preference that involved wanting to get fucked by an actual dick, but one not associated with the ego and emotional immaturity of most men (sorry guys). With that common understanding zoophilia was easy to explain. Most "straight" girls are 3 margueritas and a drunken make out away from sexually experimenting with another woman. The first time I revealed this to her was mostly accidental. We were drinking together, common theme but I swear I dont drink a lot just most of my 'stupid stuff that I have done' stories involve alcohol, and she asked me to put on porn. I was on autopilot and went to a beastiality streaming site and put on my favorite movie. The girl on screen was getting mounted, jackhammered, and moaning before I though to turn it off. She was into it though. The rest is history.
 
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This is a tough one as society deems so many things wrong that people just go with it. I always think why does society who dont know me at all think they know whats best for me
 
I'll bust out the ol k9 sex facts if the topic is brought up....which is not often in the normie land.
 
Defending and a discussion about it makes only sense, if your opponent is not pseudo-tolerant but really tolreant and logically fact-based...most people cover their moral-based opinion with made-up science to look tolerant but they are not at all. So if the topic is brought up, yes heard of that, there's nothing which doesn't exists, never seen it, doing anything against consent or even harm is not acceptable at all, we have animal protection laws and good. End of discussion.
 
I don't think there has ever been an occasion when I have openly discussed zoophilia with anyone outside this little world, but could I justify it? Like @Canilaris just said, there is nothing that hasn't been tried and tested since human life began. We all know that certain animals can 'consent' and enjoy sex with humans, otherwise we wouldn't all be here, on this site.

Only once have I been compelled to bring the subject up, myself, and in that case, it was a necessity. I even asked a couple of friends on here before I did so. Fortunately, it turned out fine, although I was dreadfully nervous, although not ashamed or guilty. But I cannot ever recall a situation, or conversation, when it was an actual topic. But could I justify it as a relatively "normal" aspect of life? Yes, I think I could. Seventy years ago, no one would ever have really considered people changing sex, but now it is nothing necessarily unusual. I would love to believe that one day zoos will be able to "come out of the closet", but probably not in my lifetime.

I can think of one or two things vanillas might struggle with, scat for example, but I think being a zoo is much more acceptable... But then I would, wouldn't I?
 
I've tried multiple times, and actually been successful a few times! I made a reddit account specifically to post in r/confessions about being a zoophile, and the same thing in r/AMA. I found a great handful of people who genuinely wanted to ask questions, and even helped one person discover that they are a zoophile! They had never put the pieces together until they started talking to me and I picked up on a few things. Another us one of the best people I've ever met. They even admitted that before talking to me, they had a very different view of zoophiles and would never trust me around animals, but after talking to me would even trust me around their own dogs (if they had any). I just explained how much I actually love and care for them, and when they saw how deeply I love dogs their perspective was changed. I'm still talking to them casually, and they so far are the only one to know everything about me. I've told one other person my name, but that was the only detail and it doesn't narrow me down. However, this one is the only person I have told everything about me. They even know exactly where I work!

Take a chance anonymously on the internet. You never know who you will find :)

Do be warned, you will get a lot of hate though. But for me, the kindness this one person showed makes up for the hate I was subject to in finding them.
 
Too messy, I think a lot of people like it and don't admit cause of shame. But I'm more into seeing girls fucking dogs, so it would be fun to find a girl who likes it. I actually correspond online with a girl that confessed liking it, we had a really fun talk about it.
 
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