What would you tell others about zoofilia? would you tell anyone at all ?

Oxido

Tourist
in your own words would you ever defend having sex with dogs or other animals or justify it ? how would you explain it if it ever came up in a conversation? im not saying to reveal your lifestyle but would you ever try to explain it or the world just isnt ready to it.
sometimes whenever it comes up people often go "ewww" and "nooo thats disgusting" or something like that. and i just stop myself from rambling about it.
 

pes

Prized Citizen of ZV
This is complicated. So I would not actually attempt to explain it unless I absolutely had to.
Most people do not see animals as zoophiles do and do not recognize the behaviors animals use to ask for sex or the choice there is.
A lot of people see animals as lesser beings, basically a simple organism driven by instinct with no capacity for thought or feelings.
At that point it becomes incredibly difficult to explain the point of view of a zoophile especially in a limited amount of time.
 

egoldstein

Citizen of Zooville
I try to not get engaged in such discussions, but when it comes up I tend to offer my thoughts on the matter. I usually keep it relatively simple and try to stick to the harm or lack thereof. It has on some occasions lead people to suspect, but whatever. It does help that I'm known to be a student of philosophy and I have claimed that it along with some other subjects, such as related persons having sex where there's no possibility of offspring, the trolley experiment, etc and defend it as "A textbook example of challenging one to think about why they think what they do and if there are logical reasons for it".
 

lnk

Tourist
I've had alot of conversations about it, irl and online, mostly just because I feel uncomfortable taking moral standpoints for granted and taking about my opinions with peoples whose ability to reason i find admirable helps me come to conclusions I think are defensible.
I've never had the conversation in the form of "justifying people having sex with animals" but I usually end up arguing the negative when it comes to "is zoophilia bad" because im looking for someone to give me an argument as to why it is bad that stands up to questioning.

The way I would go about "justifying it" is by having the person arguing that it is bad quantify precisely why its bad, usually this turns into "animals are of not able to communicate adequately to express consent" which id talk about whether active pursuit of sexual engagement can be taken as consent or they throw out some comparison to paedophilia to which leads to talking about the routs of why paedophilia is bad which I will argue are the almost unavoidable risk of provable physical and mental harm and that im yet to see the same proven risk to zoophilia in all cases.

Id encourage anyone to have conversations like that about any touchy moral subject if you get the chance to do it in a safe environment, otherwise you may find yourself coming to a conclusion just because it lets you do something that you want to or because people around you think it.
 

dogfan50

Tourist
I tell people that I have rules about me. You cannot be mad at me, upset with me, pissed off at me, hate me, or anything else toward me, about what and how I feel, what I say and how I say it, what I think and how I think it. If you do not want the truth don't ask the question, because for one I DO NOT CARE, nor am I pissed off upset, etc at your feelings. And if you are any of those things against me, well at least you have feelings for me. Then I will give said people my thoughts. If you do not like anything I have to say, NOT MY PROBLEM, it is your problem, and you cannot make your problem, my problem. If you cannot love and respect me for who I am and what I am about, you have no reason to be in my life.
 
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Oxido

Tourist
I tell people that I have rules about me. You cannot be mad at me, upset with me, pissed off at me, hate me, or anything else toward me, about what and how I feel, what I say and how I say it, what I think and how I think it. If you do not want the truth don't ask the question, because for one I DO NOT CARE, nor am I pissed off upset, etc at your feelings. And if you are any of those things against me, well at least you have feeling for me. Then I will give said people my thoughts.
all of this while you dont cause harm or impose your ideas on anyone else is totally fine. people dont understand that unless we harm or impose my ideas on someone else its all my business.
 

Austral

Zooville Settler
This is complicated. So I would not actually attempt to explain it unless I absolutely had to.
Most people do not see animals as zoophiles do and do not recognize the behaviors animals use to ask for sex or the choice there is.
A lot of people see animals as lesser beings, basically a simple organism driven by instinct with no capacity for thought or feelings.
At that point it becomes incredibly difficult to explain the point of view of a zoophile especially in a limited amount of time.
That why I usually try to get the topic of animal intelligence, to get away that old idea most people have about all animals do is instinct, and instead is culturally transmitted from the parents and other animals they interact during their development, and also actually thinking and problem solving.

If people don't understand that and just look at animals as a different thing, and ignore how much we have in common (specially mammals), forget about them trying to understand and even less accept zoo, or that they can also consent (I mean, is not like people that are deaf-mute, or speak different languages, can't have sex and consent about it...)
 
It's so risky telling others, I feel like I would only tell someone if they were my bf/husband and I somehow got the idea that they may be into it aswell. The dream is to just find someone who I already know is zoo but IDK where to start
 

lux

Tourist
The truth is that there are more people who practice or just enjoy zoophilia than we can imagine. Of course they don't talk about it or deny it. Many years before the internet, here where I live I always heard many stories about women who had sex with dogs in their homes, how many of these stories were real I don't know, certainly many.
 
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