Spontaneous mating

Not so, virgin dogs may even panic when they find they cannot disengage.
Animals are not pre-programmed single chip computers. Behaviors are learned and experience gained over time.

Supposedly he will already have gotten his O and lost interest long before he can escape a tie, which is why he tries to dismount and move away.
Not entirely. Ejaculation continues long after knotting. The first and second fractions happen fast so that semen delivery is accomplished quickly. During the tie the male ejaculates 3rd fraction and that can continue for up to several dozens of minutes to ensure successful fertilization.
Stimulating the knot in a tied position often even makes the dog squirt more clear liquid even after he stopped before.
You can quite clearly observe the reaction to stimulation in this position.
You stop, the anal contractions stop and the tip stops twitching. You resume and all of it resumes. This is usually accompanied with closed eyes and relaxed facial expression which is visibly changing in reaction to stimulation in the tied position.
 
Animals are not pre-programmed single chip computers. Behaviors are learned and experience gained over time.
And so you agree they are NOT expecting to knot. Not the first time at least, and yet they still attempt to dismount.
Not entirely. Ejaculation continues long after knotting.
As I wrote above, "from what I recall the male dog orgasm does not coincide with his subsequent hardness and ejaculation"

So basically orgasm does not happen during the entire ejaculation, and finishes long before ejaculation finishes. This would provide and explanation why a knot needed to evolve in the first place, to serve as a mechanism to keep the male in place for the entire ejaculation where orgasm is not accomplishing this.
 
We are all familiar with porn in which someone picks up "random" women and has sex with them. For the most part, these are either total directed projects or look like amateur, spontaneous pick-ups.

But these are porn movies , where someone is getting along with someone.

Have you had to deal with "hookups" or more like luring stray dogs for sex? It's very natural, not directed but is it possible?
Actually yes. I met an awesome, friendly, extremely intelligent stray once who after putting him in the back of my pickup, giving him some kitty kibble, sitting with him and talking to him he initiated intimacy. He was all over me with his lovely penis sticking out. Had I let him he would have mounted me. As it was I gave him oral. He was more than willing to be my mate. He showed that when I went to see how he was doing a couple days after I had taken him to our local animal shelter. As soon as I was by his kennel and he heard my voice he came bounding up to the gate to see me. As he got there he put his front paws as high as he could on the gate and started licking my hands while showing pink. The worker that was with me noticed and mentioned how he really liked me. So yes some dogs if shown the proper kindness will most likely reciprocate this in some fashion especially if they can sense the inner you as my little friend did with me. The thing that makes it even more special is the fact I am male.
 
This is one of the dumbest sentences I have read on the forum. On par with the other user claiming that dogs specifically evolved to have the best penis for a woman and just about as dumb as claiming the whole penis goes through your cervix and visibly fills you up.

Dogs evolved to have the best penis for their own species. The fact that it happens to fit into a different vagina is a coincidence.

The sheer stupidity of claiming that the sex organs of a species evolved for sex with a completely different unrelated species is mind-boggling.
Thanks for saying that. Because I was very close to say it, but with much more offensive words.

@23121332, tell me, but honesty, are you just a freaking troll, coming here for rising confrontations and enjoying the reactions?
 
Thanks for saying that. Because I was very close to say it, but with much more offensive words.

@23121332, tell me, but honesty, are you just a freaking troll, coming here for rising confrontations and enjoying the reactions?
If she's a troll, isn't responding to her playing right into her hands? Maybe it's about time everyone just let it go.
 
look how nature designed a dogs sexual organ, it's like a dog evolved to be the perfect male sexual partner, I bet women having sexual relations with dogs was a BIG factor in their domestication
Oh so very true an unintentional quirk of nature that a dog makes such a perfect partner for us.
 
More seriously, does anyone have any real evidence on why male dogs dismount so quickly? If we have nothing better to go on but anecdotes, can those with personal experience at least describe what it is about how your dog behaves that makes you feel like he enjoys a tie?
why would he enjoy a tie?
a) on a canine penis, the pleasure buttons are the tip (would be hard to aim without some sensations in there) and behind the knot (to reach orgasm during a tie) not the shaft like in humans. squeezing them behind the knot is probably very similar to you stroking your penis along the shaft ie: a somewhat rhythmic motion you reach climax with. makes only sense that a tie (a position where the bit behind the knot gets said action) should be very pleasurable.

b) they seeks to do it again and again knowing the end result is a tie?

c) more of a personal experience. the more sex you have with the same boy the less time he takes to tie. as if he gets better and better at achieving the to him pleasurable part of sex. i firmly believe that humping is the "meh" part of sex for a dog.

i've been with a boy who stayed on my back, another that went butt to butt almost immediately... maybe it got too hot up there? maybe it was just a "i gotta keep a lookout" instinct? who knows... both "wanted some" again later.
a first timer will probably get startled to some degree. i mean, who wouldn't be? imagine having sex for the very first time and then realizing your penis can get stuck in places. even the at first startled ones will want to do it again.

Why would a tie be comfortable or enjoyable for a canine?
they like to go again?
 
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and behind the knot (to reach orgasm during a tie)
What I've been saying is that ejaculation is not the same as orgasm. Pressure on the knot definitely stimulates ejaculation, but orgasm? Based on what pes has said, his dog looks very relaxed while there is pressure on his knot. Relaxed? During an orgasm? Maybe relaxed after you have just had an orgasm and are basking in the post-O bliss.

they seeks to do it again and again knowing the end result is a tie?
Why not? Getting the instant gratification of an orgasm seems like it would be worth putting up with the tie afterwards.

Based on what has been said, I don't know that I can decide which version of things I believe at this point. I'm inclined to trust nek and pes for their personal experience with this, but certainly the questions that are raised leave room for doubt. I'm thinking I'll have to be satisfied with that until some new information comes along.
 
What I've been saying is that ejaculation is not the same as orgasm.
ejaculation is part of the orgasm, how could it not be in essence the same? i'm not gonna pretend i have all the answers, but maybe canine orgasm isn't the same as the few seconds long "ooohhh" we human males got? maybe it's more of a prolonged wave. woman orgasm is supposed to be like that, no? i think even male pigs are told to have up to 30 minutes long orgasms. would somewhat explain the relaxation and the kinda "lost in the moment" empty stare some boys give while ejaculating. what if every new squirt, every butt clench is also a new wave of pleasure to them? seems to be that way for girl dogs at least, my girl loves prolonged "going down on her" sessions.
 
ejaculation is part of the orgasm, how could it not be in essence the same? i'm not gonna pretend i have all the answers, but maybe canine orgasm isn't the same as the few seconds long "ooohhh" we human males got? maybe it's more of a prolonged wave. woman orgasm is supposed to be like that, no? i think even male pigs are told to have up to 30 minutes long orgasms. would somewhat explain the relaxation and the kinda "lost in the moment" empty stare some boys give while ejaculating. what if every new squirt, every butt clench is also a new wave of pleasure to them? seems to be that way for girl dogs at least, my girl loves prolonged "going down on her" sessions.
It could be, but I'm not convinced that it is. Like I said, there are a lot of questions if we assume male dogs continue to orgasm through the entire ejaculation. Why do they dismount so quickly if they are still feeling pleasure? Virgin dogs won't know anything about knotting, so there's no reason for them to think increasing the pressure on their knot will feel good. Why evolve a knot in the first place when a continuing orgasm should keep the male in place doing his thing? Isn't it suspiciously coincidental that male dog behavior during the tied portion of the supposed orgasm, that they become very relaxed, is very similar to how many mammals behave after their orgasm has concluded? It leaves room for doubt.
 
Wow. This went all trainwrecky fairly quickly.

I particularly found the "dogs evolved to be the perfect cock match for human females" part extra stupid and very highly entertaining in a batshit crazy way.
Yea. Another thread with a whole lotta stupid showing up. It’s amazing how idiots attract each other so quickly.
 
Taking advantage of a homeless/ownerless dog and then dumping them back on the street. Real classy of you.
If a dog has an affair with a random male dog, would you blame her for abandoning the poor male dog, not bringing him food, and not licking him afterwards?
And if a woman met a guy in a bar, he fucked her, and then she broke up with him, would you blame the woman for not supporting and grooming the guy at her own expense, but only using him for sexual purposes?
Everyone takes advantage of someone in one way or another, it was, is, and always will be. If someone doesn't live up to your expectations, it's not their problem.
Is there any harm done? No. Then there is no problem either.
The only problem is malicious harm. I don't see that.
You could very well argue that a random dog screwing a random woman is only screwing her because she would later be obligated to take him with her, or else he wouldn't screw her.
 
Well, I'm sure male dogs appreciate not getting stuck for minutes after they've had their O. Can't say I've ever seen one looking particularly enthusiastic about having tied with a female dog.
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If a dog has an affair with a random male dog, would you blame her for abandoning the poor male dog, not bringing him food, and not licking him afterwards?
And if a woman met a guy in a bar, he fucked her, and then she broke up with him, would you blame the woman for not supporting and grooming the guy at her own expense, but only using him for sexual purposes?
Everyone takes advantage of someone in one way or another, it was, is, and always will be. If someone doesn't live up to your expectations, it's not their problem.
Is there any harm done? No. Then there is no problem either.
The only problem is malicious harm. I don't see that.
You could very well argue that a random dog screwing a random woman is only screwing her because she would later be obligated to take him with her, or else he wouldn't screw her.
Yes for 10k times!
 
Definitely but you need experience with a variety of dogs. You need to know how not get caught with a stray outside, your hip positioning skills should be good and you need sexual endurance. If other strays catch you get getting knotted, they are going to want to fuck you too most likely
 
Definitely but you need experience with a variety of dogs. You need to know how not get caught with a stray outside, your hip positioning skills should be good and you need sexual endurance. If other strays catch you get getting knotted, they are going to want to fuck you too most likely
Great job necroing a year old thread from an OP that has already been banned from this site.
 
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