Is human milk not harmful to puppies? (Or a video where a woman is breastfeeding a puppy)

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Just found recently an interesting video: https://********.com/videos/un-chien-leche-les-gros-tetons-juteux-de-sa-maitresse-66557.html
(It may look very cute, but appearances are not everything.)

I very love dogs and I hate the animal abuse (I also consider the improper feeding to be animal abuse).

I recently read some scientific studies on human and dog milk:
https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Composition_and_Its_Changes_During_Lactation
https://www.researchgate.net/public...he_Dog_Milk_Composition_and_Intake_by_Puppies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3586783/

However, I am in trouble. Regarding human milk, I read that: "In addition to immune substances, antioxidants, amino acids, minerals, vitamins, breast milk contains antibodies that are produced by the mother's body in case of disease, so the baby is also protected against pathogens in case of an infection."

However, I don’t know that dog milk has these substances in the same way that a puppy a few weeks old may need? (At least the puppy in the video barely looks older than 1 month.)

I'm just interested in what you think?
 
No, human milk is not safe for dogs. There is no reason to give it to them and it can harm them. The fact that some people may find it sexy in commercial porn that does not give a shit about animal well being, is not a good reason to risk health issues. Particularly puppies are more fragile than adult dogs and this "sexy" bs could seriously harm them.

"If you've been wondering, “can I give my dog breast milk,” the answer is NO – breast milk is not recommended for dogs, mostly because it contains lactose and generally, dogs cannot digest or process lactose well."

"Growing puppies need their own set of specific nutrition which they get from canine breast milk of their mother. The composition of that milk is way different to that of humans"

"Even though human breast milk contains tons of nutrients, their composition and ratio is not made up for what dogs require. The lactose in human breast milk is the largest issue with giving breast milk to dogs, because a dog's body will most likely not tolerate it."

"Many dogs are lactose intolerant, leading to gastrointestinal disorders."
 
Basically, every baby/pup of every species has different enzims for digesting the appropiate milk, that is why you need calf stomach to do cow cheese and kit stomach to produce goat cheese, therefore, if milk is from a different species, the little one will not be able to propperly digest it.

If the mother is not available and you are on a remote place where you can not find specific veterinary product.... Won't be better or worse than feeding him cow or ewe milk. But if you have a chance to do it propperly...

Want him to sucke a bit? I don't think it will be too bad specially once he starts eating everything he finds around 😅. But do not use as feeding.
 
Yeah.
Hopefully talking of breasfeeding as a way to get a higher emotional bonding with the pup, not as a way to get off or producing... um... Is that even porn? Duh.
 
I mean people drink cow goat whatever milk? It should be the same thing even if it's not efficient for their body
 
I mean people drink cow goat whatever milk? It should be the same thing even if it's not efficient for their body
No it is not. The fact that people have the ability to break down lactose does not mean other species can do that too.
Grapes can kill a dog yet people can eat them readily in large amounts. It is not comparable.
 
No it is not. The fact that people have the ability to break down lactose does not mean other species can do that too.
Grapes can kill a dog yet people can eat them readily in large amounts. It is not comparable.
Isn't that common knowledge about grapes? How it shuts down the kidneys.

What about those stories of a deer drinking lioness milk ( the prey drive killed it after) or other milk from different species. (I don't know about this part keep in mind I just speculate here since milk is milk but it's not efficient to grab another species milk)
 
I mean people drink cow goat whatever milk? It should be the same thing even if it's not efficient for their body
Yes, indeed. It does not mean it is easy to digest though. The necessary enzymes to break down lactose are present in babies, but dissapear in adults (iirc except one or two human tribes that adapted!).

So we can eat milk but the small bowel gets a hard time breaking it down. As an adult and with mixed diet it is fine. We actually get a lot if interesting things from it. As a young beeing trying to grab nutrients at low cost it is not so good.
 
Feeding a puppy human milk will likely not kill it but will cause diarrhea depending on how much milk was drunk. The same goes for adult dogs but since puppies are more fragile, it is more dangerous.
The same goes for other species.
Cats should not drink milk, it makes them sick, but you usually do not see that since they shit their bowels out outside and some cats are even evolving to tolerate lactose.
Yes animals can be able to drink the milk of other species, no it not always safe for them even though it is not going to kill them.
 
Yes, indeed. It does not mean it is easy to digest though. The necessary enzymes to break down lactose are present in babies, but dissapear in adults (iirc except one or two human tribes that adapted!).

So we can eat milk but the small bowel gets a hard time breaking it down. As an adult and with mixed diet it is fine. We actually get a lot if interesting things from it. As a young beeing trying to grab nutrients at low cost it is not so good.
That's actually interesting to know about we lose natural abilities as well as grow new ones
 
Feeding a puppy human milk will likely not kill it but will cause diarrhea depending on how much milk was drunk. The same goes for adult dogs but since puppies are more fragile, it is more dangerous.
The same goes for other species.
Cats should not drink milk, it makes them sick, but you usually do not see that since they shit their bowels out outside and some cats are even evolving to tolerate lactose.
Yes animals can be able to drink the milk of other species, no it not always safe for them even though it is not going to kill them.
What's with the stereotype about cats drinking milk?
 
At the same time the fact that an animal will eat something does not mean it is a good idea. An animal does not automatically know which things may be poisonous especially when it comes to things the animal has never seen before.
 
At the same time the fact that an animal will eat something does not mean it is a good idea. An animal does not automatically know which things may be poisonous especially when it comes to things the animal has never seen before.
Pretty much an general animal's mind set is "hey look new thing I wonder what new thing taste like" or "hey look new creature hes into my territory so ill shove him off so i keep it" ( yes I'm somewhat oversimplifying it)
 
I've literally never thought about doing this, it just seems like since most animals have different dietary needs that they wouldn't be able to drink milk from different animals.

Around 65% of adult humans are lactose intolerant. So even for us, a lot of us can't tolerate milk containing lactose even though cow milk consumption is so widespread.
 
That's actually interesting to know about we lose natural abilities as well as grow new ones
Yes, body and nature. Adapt to what you need, do not put efford in what you no longer need 😀

Indeed, I got my numbers wrong. Seems a few hundred thousad years of selection has made some humans more milk ready as adults


It's not normal. Somewhat less than 40% of people in the world retain the ability to digest lactose after childhood. The numbers are often given as close to 0% of Native Americans, 5% of Asians, 25% of African and Caribbean peoples, 50% of Mediterranean peoples and 90% of northern Europeans. Sweden has one of the world's highest percentages of [URL='http://www.svenskmjolk.se/Templates/StartPage.aspx']lactase tolerant people[/URL].
 
Just found recently an interesting video: https://********.com/videos/un-chien-leche-les-gros-tetons-juteux-de-sa-maitresse-66557.html
(It may look very cute, but appearances are not everything.)

I very love dogs and I hate the animal abuse (I also consider the improper feeding to be animal abuse).

I recently read some scientific studies on human and dog milk:
https://www.researchgate.net/public..._Composition_and_Its_Changes_During_Lactation
https://www.researchgate.net/public...he_Dog_Milk_Composition_and_Intake_by_Puppies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3586783/

However, I am in trouble. Regarding human milk, I read that: "In addition to immune substances, antioxidants, amino acids, minerals, vitamins, breast milk contains antibodies that are produced by the mother's body in case of disease, so the baby is also protected against pathogens in case of an infection."

However, I don’t know that dog milk has these substances in the same way that a puppy a few weeks old may need? (At least the puppy in the video barely looks older than 1 month.)

I'm just interested in what you think?
The real issue is - dogs are generally lactose intolerant. It is not deadly, but it can cause some very uncomfortable digestive issues.

See here: https://topdogtips.com/can-dogs-drink-breast-milk/
 
I know this thread was just resurrected, but this is some serious dunning-Kruger stuff going on.

I have long noted that if you google "can my dog eat X" there is some clueless hippie willing to tell you "no that's really bad". Even as people go "inter-species milk consumption how could that work", 10% of their diet by mass is probably bovine milk.

It should be well known that full-lifetime lactase production is a recent adaptation for humans, but human babies have always been able to digest it. It follows that calves have always been able to digest it. This is important because the OP asked about puppies.

Someone who understand evolution understands that the older a biochemistry is the more common it is. How old is lactose? Old (not the best source):
Lactose is the primary disaccharide in virtually all mammalian milks. … Human milk contains approximately 7% lactose by weight, which is among the highest lactose concentrations of all mammalian milks [5]. Cow’s milk contains 4 or 5% lactose.
We can thus conclude that all baby mammals have always been able to digest it.

Specific confirmation for canines: https://journals.physiology.org/doi/abs/10.1152/ajplegacy.1960.199.4.731
A statistical study has been made of the composition of the major C-containing compounds taken from beagle dog milk during the 3rd through 5th week of lactation. The mean values are as follows: 26% total solids, 13% fat, 3.3% lactose and 9.8% protein.

If somebody is about to say 7% is not the same as 3.3% learn how enzymes work.

There is no reason to expect a problem, certainly not anything permanent or serious.
 
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