Horsefur18
Tourist
Had a conversation with another zoo, I was wondering if this is a common practise, ethical or wrong?
Is bribing a mare with food or scratches for sex ethical?
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Its one of those moral grey areas.
Is prostitution wrong? Or the free and voluntary exchange of money for sex ethical? Both parties agree to the terms correct but does that make it moral?
I believe its the same case with animals who will voluntarily ignore the sexual interaction for food.
If we agree that animals can consent to sex, it also means they can consent to exchange food for sex.
I personally wouldnt do it as id rather find a mare who will enjoy sex period with humans over doing so for food
Is prostitution wrong? Or the free and voluntary exchange of money for sex ethical? Both parties agree to the terms correct but does that make it moral?
I believe its the same case with animals who will voluntarily ignore the sexual interaction for food.
If we agree that animals can consent to sex, it also means they can consent to exchange food for sex.
I personally wouldnt do it as id rather find a mare who will enjoy sex period with humans over doing so for food
SigmaTheZeta
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
I am a supporter of all forms of female entreprenuership.
I'm not one to bribe my mares, yes they get treats and scratches after sex but I've never withheld either if they aren't in the mood.
RandomEquine
Zooville Settler
I’m not much for food bribes outside of a little hay for them to munch on. If you’re doing a good job she’s gonna have far more interest in what’s going on under her tail than that pile of hay. If your mare has to have her face buried in a bucket of grain or oats before she’ll stand for sex, you’re doing it wrong. Food bribes are more on par with paying a prostitute for sex than having an actual relationship. I’ve met plenty of mares who view sexual contact as being on the same level as food treats. Orgasms are a hell of a drug, I don’t care what species you are.
As far as physical contact goes, horses love physical attention from their herd mates. Scritches and a rub down are usually great foreplay, and I’ve yet to meet a mare who didn’t enjoy that sort of attention. Sensual grooming is a fantastic way to set the mood and help your equine partner stay healthy and feel good.
As far as physical contact goes, horses love physical attention from their herd mates. Scritches and a rub down are usually great foreplay, and I’ve yet to meet a mare who didn’t enjoy that sort of attention. Sensual grooming is a fantastic way to set the mood and help your equine partner stay healthy and feel good.
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Mr.Misc
Tourist
I think the key word to note here is "bribe." Bribing is not a transaction, contract, or agreement, it is a form of coercion. So this could become an ethical dilemma. If you lure your partner with treats or scratches in the aim of instigating sexual activity, the motive of that behavior is the source of the possible dilemma.
Let's say your treat/scratches/any other form of persuasion is intended to lure your partner into sex without regard to the concerns of your partner. Then I would say yes, you are taking advantage of how you know your partner will react to treats or scratches and using that as a means to initiate sex, without considering the thoughts and feelings of your partner. An example of this might be offering a sex addict money for sex. You understand how that person will react, and you use that reaction to benefit you, rather than take into account that person's thoughts/feelings/autonomy in the matter.
However, let's say your treats and scratches are intended to entice your partner into sex, as a means of initiating sexual activity, and you are considering your partners feelings and are simply initiating sexual intimacy. This would be no different than kissing/hugging/tickling your partner into sexual activity, foreplay isn't unethical right?
I think the important thing here is to consider the intent, if your intent is to bribe and coerce your partner - unethical, however, if you intend to take into consideration your partners feelings and are simply engaging in intimate behavior - ethical.
Let's say your treat/scratches/any other form of persuasion is intended to lure your partner into sex without regard to the concerns of your partner. Then I would say yes, you are taking advantage of how you know your partner will react to treats or scratches and using that as a means to initiate sex, without considering the thoughts and feelings of your partner. An example of this might be offering a sex addict money for sex. You understand how that person will react, and you use that reaction to benefit you, rather than take into account that person's thoughts/feelings/autonomy in the matter.
However, let's say your treats and scratches are intended to entice your partner into sex, as a means of initiating sexual activity, and you are considering your partners feelings and are simply initiating sexual intimacy. This would be no different than kissing/hugging/tickling your partner into sexual activity, foreplay isn't unethical right?
I think the important thing here is to consider the intent, if your intent is to bribe and coerce your partner - unethical, however, if you intend to take into consideration your partners feelings and are simply engaging in intimate behavior - ethical.
qweqwe
Citizen of Zooville
corruption to have sex? no
corruption to make her do something non-sexual? (whether it is to make me clean my tail well or to level a hoof for example) yes sometimes.
with my mares I've always had a rule, if they ever put a nose to the magyar (which is always available, even when we are in privacy) everything stops, at best you can guard around or caress it.
something in the post does not even need to ask, because as I said eating is always available and when there are in particular there is always the manger full of things that you particularly like.
scratchers or whatever? even if they are different, sometimes it confuses and thinks that when I clean it they are preliminary, and sometimes it embarrasses me a little.
corruption to make her do something non-sexual? (whether it is to make me clean my tail well or to level a hoof for example) yes sometimes.
with my mares I've always had a rule, if they ever put a nose to the magyar (which is always available, even when we are in privacy) everything stops, at best you can guard around or caress it.
something in the post does not even need to ask, because as I said eating is always available and when there are in particular there is always the manger full of things that you particularly like.
scratchers or whatever? even if they are different, sometimes it confuses and thinks that when I clean it they are preliminary, and sometimes it embarrasses me a little.