I need help, advice ...

Everyone has fantasies. Some are so far away from reality that they can never happen. Others are within the realm of possibility but some part of it is limiting. When you're fantasy is the latter you can either do nothing other than watch porn where they act out your fantasy or you can do your best to make it an experience in your life.

There are many individuals that have fantasies of this nature and depending on opportunity many settle on watching porn and never go any further. So don't be so hard on yourself, you are not alone.
 
Non tu n'es pas seul, a vrai dire je me sent exactement comme toi et c'est nouveau pour moi aussi

Je me trompe peut-etre mais j'ai l'impression qu'a la base si nous sommes ici c'est que nous avons tous ce coté pervers a l'intérieur de nous, maintenant je crois que la perversité a plusieurs corde a son arc et ici il y a de tout

J'ai moi aussi ce fantasme et j'aimerais bien le faire, maintenant je n'ai aucune idée si mentalement je vais être capable de le faire, car j'ai l'impression de salir mon âme et je me suis toujours considéré comme une belle et bonne personne, d'un autre coté, trouver quelqu'un ici pour se faire initier ne semble pas évident et pour ma part je ne penserais pas être capable de le faire seul au début

Par rapport au fait d'être zoo il y a des fois ou cela va bien et d'autre fois ca ne va pas bien, mais j'essaie de rationaliser en me disant que c'est par rapport aux règles et croyances morales de notre société que nous nous sentons coupable, et en fait nous avons tous un coté animal a l'intérieur de nous
 
zozozo17 said:
Hello everybody,

That was difficult for me to write those words because I feel very ashamed of my fantasme and I really hate myself for this… Why I write this line after 10 years hidden to look at the different forums and discover this zoo world ? Because I feel depressed, I need some help and advice. I need to know if I am alone in this case or not.

Let me tell you my story (and sorry for my english fault), I am a 25yo young french man, I have every thing to be happy : kind parents, good friends, I am not bad physically, I was graduated in the top of my university and I have a good job I love, I am appreciate by people but… there is 1 thing that nobody know… something that split my soul in 2 and make me sad : my fantasme.

- On the one hand, I dream of meeting a intelligent zoo active woman who understand me. I explain : I am heterosexual but I would like to try to receive a dog… I can’t explain why, I like watching zoo videos and I think a LOT about this fanstasme… But I know this is impossible .. I will never meet someone like that, I will never speak to someone about this fantasme, I will die with it in my head and that make me sad…

- On the other hand, I disguste myself but very very much I feel anormal. I feel sick to have this fantasme. I don’t want to be nasty but I see a lot of just « silly pervert », I am not like that.. It’s not me.. I am just a shy man attracted by a strange thing .. not a stupid pervert… I hate myself, I hate what I am… I don’t know why I have this fantasme, I fell so guilt about it, it ruins my spirit and my life…



Is there someone like me ? Or someone who was like me and who have any advice for me ? Can I improve this situation.. ?



Thank you for your reading and sorry for this long post
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You would probably think less about it if you got over your shame.

When you grow focused on the idea that a thought is shameful, you can become addicted to the feeling of shame, and you will therefore keep revisiting it. This may sound paradoxical, but your mind grows addicted to shame. This is unhealthy.

Instead of being ashamed, think of the animal in the same way that you would think of a human that has less ability than yourself. When you meet a member of the working-class that is not very educated and who thinks in simple ways, you can still respect that person as your equal, not because you have fooled yourself into believing that that person has the same abilities as yourself but because you no longer believe that these differences really make you more entitled to be treated with kindness or with dignity than that person.

An animal also has different ability than yourself. If you also respect the animal in the same way that you respect a member of the working-class, then are you really a sinner to desire an animal, sexually, anymore than you would be a sinner to desire a member of the working class, sexually?

When you have taught yourself such respect for the animal, you can get the shame out of your mind, you will know that anybody that calls you a villain for your feelings is merely ignorant about you, and you will no longer be as preoccupied by your thoughts. When they are no longer significant to you, you will be able to focus your attention better on other things.
 
You should not feel guilty for being sexually attracted to animals. It is not immoral for a human to have sex with another animal (humans are animals). Interspecies sex is not inherently immoral.
 
zozozo17 said:
Thank you all 3 for your answers.
knotinterested : I know all of that but it's difficult to see that fantasies can't be real...
knotarguing : J'essaye de me raisonner de la meme maniere comme quoi nous avons été formaté par nos croyance et notre societe mais c'est quand meme difficile... Le faire seul est aussi un moyen de ne pas s'exposer et d'être sur que personne ne le sache je trouve... c'est assez paradoxal.
SigmatoZeta : It's a very respectfull and good advice you give to me, thank you. It's difficult to think less I have a never stop brain for my bad .. But this vision of the respect to learn is a very good idea I will try.
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The reason you fedl ashamed is because you view it as wrong or immoral, or taking advantage of another. You should view it as though that dogs life has the same value and needs as a human. Now I dont know why, but I have always had this mindset since the beginning, so it was fairly easy for me to accept and took me about 2 months to accept, however there are more severe cases like yours where people supress themselves in shame for 10+ years. Dont be ashamed, love is love
 
I don't give 2 shits about what other people think about me.. I am who I am, and that's what I am.

To me: you just need to figure out who you are at the core, and what matters to you in life.. And seriously: fuck everything else!

My mentality:
I like what I like, I don't care if you like it.. Its who I am. I don't need your acceptance, I love myself.
Don't mess with me and I won't fuck you up.

To me: find what you like and want in life.. Find out how to get it.. Keep it.

You only have control over yourself and what you do.. So live free, and die happy!

That is the extent of your control in life
 
I fought with myself for a long time and hated myself for a long time. I had to accept who and what I was before I could let go of much of that and I honestly still do not know for sure if I am good or bad. If some people are correct in their opinion I am going to hell but I also know that this part of me is not something I can change. I have tried.
It sounds like this is something that is just a part of you. So you need to accept that and let go of the guilt for it. You are not defined by your sexual fantasies. You don't have to act on them if you think they are immoral but I think you need to accept them for what they are and decide that you are a good person. Maybe it makes you flawed maybe not but every human on earth is flawed.
My recommendation is that before you explore you fantasy or get in a relationship that you do some real thorough looking at who you are, and try to realize that you can have something that you may consider a flaw and still be good.
For me I realized that by fighting who I am I was miserable and a pretty unpleasant person to be around. So I don't know if what I am is wrong or right but I do know that by not trying to be someone else I am a kinder person and some of that comes from that part of me that loves other animals.

Again just because you have a fantasy does not mean you have to act on them. Maybe you just keep it and enjoy the fantasy as nothing more than that. It is up to you but if you are going to act on it do so only when you are not gong to hate yourself for it. Also, don't go into a relationship bringing your internal conflict, resolve that first.
 
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