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Bred by a monkey?!

Depressed and bad dressed

Depressed and bad dressed

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Hi! I apologize if it's the wrong section, but I didn't know where to post this silly question.

Anyway, I saw a meme the other day talking about donkeys and horses having like 80% compatible genomes, thus being able to generate an interspecies offspring, which is the mule, while humans and monkey have a 95% compatibility, but none talking about interspecies breeding.

Do you think it's be possible for a female monkey to be fertilized by a human male and give birth to whatever creature it'd be? Or a female human with a male monkey... doesn't change much I think ?

It'd be interesting to see how a crossbreed would be, but I doubt any govt is okay with this ahah. Unless... they secretly did already? DUN DUN DUN DUUUN

lmao sorry for this question, can't sleep ?
 
Depressed and bad dressed said:
Hi! I apologize if it's the wrong section, but I didn't know where to post this silly question.

Anyway, I saw a meme the other day talking about donkeys and horses having like 80% compatible genomes, thus being able to generate an interspecies offspring, which is the mule, while humans and monkey have a 95% compatibility, but none talking about interspecies breeding.

Do you think it's be possible for a female monkey to be fertilized by a human male and give birth to whatever creature it'd be? Or a female human with a male monkey... doesn't change much I think ?

It'd be interesting to see how a crossbreed would be, but I doubt any govt is okay with this ahah. Unless... they secretly did already? DUN DUN DUN DUUUN

lmao sorry for this question, can't sleep ?
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I am fairly sure that they have attempted it!!
 
Depressed and bad dressed said:
Hi! I apologize if it's the wrong section, but I didn't know where to post this silly question.

Anyway, I saw a meme the other day talking about donkeys and horses having like 80% compatible genomes, thus being able to generate an interspecies offspring, which is the mule, while humans and monkey have a 95% compatibility, but none talking about interspecies breeding.

Do you think it's be possible for a female monkey to be fertilized by a human male and give birth to whatever creature it'd be? Or a female human with a male monkey... doesn't change much I think ?

It'd be interesting to see how a crossbreed would be, but I doubt any govt is okay with this ahah. Unless... they secretly did already? DUN DUN DUN DUUUN

lmao sorry for this question, can't sleep ?
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No. End of story. Donkeys and horses are one chromosome apart - close enough that they can usually create a viable zygote, albeit one that is extremely unlikely to be able to reproduce since it ends up with an unpaired chromosome. Humans and basically-anything-else-you-wanna-name don't have a close enough chromosomal arrangement and match ( Assume the coding for protien "N" resides on chromosome 6 for a human. But in a chimp, that coding resides on chromosome 11 (numbers pulled out of my ass for illustrative purposes) To get a complete coding for Protein N, chromosome 6 from the human would have to match up with chromosome 11 from the chimp - which just plain ain't gonna happen, no way, no how, no hope, forget it.
 
UR20Z said:
No. End of story. Donkeys and horses are one chromosome apart - close enough that they can usually create a viable zygote, albeit one that is extremely unlikely to be able to reproduce since it ends up with an unpaired chromosome. Humans and basically-anything-else-you-wanna-name don't have a close enough chromosomal arrangement and match ( Assume the coding for protien "N" resides on chromosome 6 for a human. But in a chimp, that coding resides on chromosome 11 (numbers pulled out of my ass for illustrative purposes) To get a complete coding for Protein N, chromosome 6 from the human would have to match up with chromosome 11 from the chimp - which just plain ain't gonna happen, no way, no how, no hope, forget it.
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I see, so that meme was a lie
 
UR20Z said:
No. End of story. Donkeys and horses are one chromosome apart - close enough that they can usually create a viable zygote, albeit one that is extremely unlikely to be able to reproduce since it ends up with an unpaired chromosome. Humans and basically-anything-else-you-wanna-name don't have a close enough chromosomal arrangement and match ( Assume the coding for protien "N" resides on chromosome 6 for a human. But in a chimp, that coding resides on chromosome 11 (numbers pulled out of my ass for illustrative purposes) To get a complete coding for Protein N, chromosome 6 from the human would have to match up with chromosome 11 from the chimp - which just plain ain't gonna happen, no way, no how, no hope, forget it.
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I like that you can pull numbers out of your ass, what else do you have hiding up there? ?
 
Reconscope said:
Did they inseminate it or naturally do it? ??
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I honestly don't know. For one thing, it's all during Stalinist Russia so....shady. At the BEST of times, Stalinists were heavy on the sadistic side, so.....use your imagination as to which it most likely was......I suspect both though.

It was also military and UBER top secret so.....guarded. And, if everyone is honest, it's also quite a bit on the Tinfoil side of the equation too. What's KNOWN is meager, what's SPECULATED is the majority.

It would ALSO have been in the late 40's early 50's so that's the technilogical level it would have been under......but, also top secret military, so who really knows what tech was in play?
 
Dogdaddy69 said:
I honestly don't know. For one thing, it's all during Stalinist Russia so....shady. At the BEST of times, Stalinists were heavy on the sadistic side, so.....use your imagination as to which it most likely was......I suspect both though.

It was also military and UBER top secret so.....guarded. And, if everyone is honest, it's also quite a bit on the Tinfoil side of the equation too. What's KNOWN is meager, what's SPECULATED is the majority.

It would ALSO have been in the late 40's early 50's so that's the technilogical level it would have been under......but, also top secret military, so who really knows what tech was in play?
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You got a point there. I suppose it is a possibility since they are probably repressed and unhinged
 
The most honest answer is that by all metrics it appears to be extremely unlikely to impossible, but calling it outright impossible with what we currently know is a bit of a stretch. A lot of the aforementioned science on chromosomal incompatibility etc. is more speculation than hard truth. There are other hidden factors at play and we don't have perspective on the whole picture yet. Consider how much more common hybridization is in plants, bizarre chromosomal configurations (there are even known viable octaploidic plant hybrids - that's like a single ovum fertilized by seven sperm at once) be damned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_plant_hybrids
The only thing that can truly crack the issue is empirical evidence - which we have none of, aside from a few extremely dubious and unscientific reports from decades or centuries ago.
 
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dartel said:
No. Different chromosome counts means completely and totally impossible.
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Pfff.

I am hearing this line way too much.
Horses -> 32 pairs
Donkey -> 31 pairs
Therefore, it is totally impossible they can have xspecies offpring, never anyone heard of that, right?

Also, if cromosome was the only problem, there are like... say.. 1-100 chromosome counts for all species? You'd have a 1% chance of offspring with any given random species.

An no. For other compatibility reasons, human x ape does not seem to work, but try as you will if you get the chance :)

(Reminds me of the old joke were they were looking for a volunteer to do a gorilla-human reproduction experiment)
 
Depressed and bad dressed said:
Hi! I apologize if it's the wrong section, but I didn't know where to post this silly question.

Anyway, I saw a meme the other day talking about donkeys and horses having like 80% compatible genomes, thus being able to generate an interspecies offspring, which is the mule, while humans and monkey have a 95% compatibility, but none talking about interspecies breeding.

Do you think it's be possible for a female monkey to be fertilized by a human male and give birth to whatever creature it'd be? Or a female human with a male monkey... doesn't change much I think ?

It'd be interesting to see how a crossbreed would be, but I doubt any govt is okay with this ahah. Unless... they secretly did already? DUN DUN DUN DUUUN

lmao sorry for this question, can't sleep ?
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I admit that a female Chimpanzee has always been one of my fantasies, I would take on a female Chimp lover and mate with her. We would have babies and I would take care of all of them... but it's just a fantasy and it's always on my mind. :gsd_wink:
 
Human sperm is incompatible to any other species (not including neanderthals). but I haven't heard of any chimp sperm on human females experiments. But I wouldn't be surprised if that experiment already happened. Not to mention I remember a female member here already tried this for the experience, I'm not sure whatever became of it or who exactly it was tho.
 
Cowboi69 said:
but I haven't heard of any chimp sperm on human females experiments
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No chimps, but according to wikipedia extract there are some ape lab test about attraction and attachement.

Humanzee - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org
Spoiler: Mostly no good news for you, people ?
If someone has access to the complete documents in note [14]

Bedford JM (August 1977). "Sperm/egg interaction: the specificity of human spermatozoa". Anat. Rec. 188 (4): 477–87. doi:10.1002/ar.1091880407. PMID 409311. S2CID 19052254.

  Anyway, I wanted to comment on Oliver.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_(chimpanzee)
An "ugly chimp" in performance that was marketed as human x chimp (No, he was not).
Thing is, at the time there was a fair number of women sending letters with interest in... um... doing scientific research on his fertility
 
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