Zoophilia in history

new_to_this_902jws said:
Alfred Kinsey in 1948 found that 8 million people had experienced zoophilia in the US (population at time 146 million). Thats more than one in 20 people. A follow up study by Morton M Hunt in 1974 put it at 4.9% for men and 1.9% for women. In Brazil a study by the Journal of Sexual Medicine, estimated it to be 34% of men, often from rural backgrounds.
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Interesting but this isn't surprising if you think that bestiality has existed since the beginning of humanity.
 
I was once told by someone that there is some history about zoophilia in north america during pre-colonial times? but they did not provide anything to corroborate it, I have yet to find anything to disprove it either.

Could anyone tell me whether this is true or not? I am not informed on the subject.
 
Not historical, but it seems to be acceptable in modern art. Noticed this in a visit to the Mpls. Inst. of Art. An artist's comment on local history. Had to take a closer look.20230719_104853.jpgMIA2.jpg
 
Wombat_intl said:
I guess in 200 years if someone finds this painting they'll think people in 2024 were all fucking oxen.
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I guess so, too... But I'd like to have the people of this time be remembered as those who rarely did that.
On the other hand: Is zoo love really that old? 🤔
 
Wombat_intl said:
Not historical, but it seems to be acceptable in modern art. Noticed this in a visit to the Mpls. Inst. of Art. An artist's comment on local history. Had to take a closer look.
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I think this was meant to read like a joke rather than support of zoophilia.
Zoophilia in a comedy context was pretty much always "acceptable", though very bawdy.
 
milabue said:
I've heard it from several others from time to time, but I keep them as 'stories' since any of them could have been lying or repeating myths. But that one guy I know.
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Very common in coastal areas of Columbia. The Vice had actually made a documentary on that.
 
Wombat_intl said:
Not historical, but it seems to be acceptable in modern art. Noticed this in a visit to the Mpls. Inst. of Art. An artist's comment on local history. Had to take a closer look.View attachment 553947View attachment 553948
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Mighty low standards for what constitutes "art" at that museum, apparently. I've seen MUCH better stuff produced by day-care/kindergarten kids using crayons or sidewalk chalk - usually hanging on a fridge door with an orange or banana or sunflower magnet holding it in place...
 
Spawn86 said:
Very common in coastal areas of Columbia. The Vice had actually made a documentary on that.
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There was an episode on this topic in a special edition of the Grand Tour, when Jeremy Clarkson from afar noticed some suspicious actions of a local resident with a donkey and, in the best traditions of British etiquette, tried to find out from the residents about what was.
“Why don’t they do something useful instead? For example, to grow some kind of agricultural crop" :ROFLMAO:
 
Calydon said:
Album sheet:
Elizabeth II fornicating with a donkey.


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"The Bourbons in balls" is the title of an album of satirical plates made between the moments immediately before the Revolution of 1868 and the beginning of the reign of Amadeo I and are signed with the pseudonym SEM.
There are 107 plates engraved, 3 painted in watercolor, denigratory and even pornographic, where public figures from the end of the reign of Elizabeth II are caricatured, especially from the royal house. She is accompanied by sharp allusive texts, sometimes poetic.

The album was missing until 1986 when it was acquired by the National Library of Spain.

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Los Borbones en pelota - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

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This is just a dirty technique to discredit political opponents.
One forum member here have mentioned the case of the Queen of Sweden.
There is a false myth about the Russian Tsarina Catherine II.
There were engravings from the era of the Great French Revolution about Marie Antoinette and her son.
 
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Calydon said:
Walther Klemm was a German painter, graphic artist, and illustrator. Best known for his monochromatic woodblock prints of animals, his work retains an illustrative, documentary quality, often contained within a small linear frame and features the subject centrally. After being appointed as the professor of graphic arts at the Academy of Fine Arts in Weimar in 1913, Klemm embarked on one of his longest-running series: erotic woodblock prints depicting bestiality, with women engaged in sexual intercourse with various animals. Today, several of his prints are held in the collection of the Museum of Modern Art in New York. Born in Karlsbad, Austria-Hungary on June 18, 1883, Klemm died in Weimar, Germany in 1957.
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Wow!! I'm truly surprised!
 
saddlebum66 said:
Paintings on cave walls at Altamira may date back 36000 years bce. That does not indicate that those paintings are bestial in topic. In fact they are not. Paintings at Lascaux do have bestial topics mixed into the other narratives but those only date 12000 years ago. Sweeping statements, and glittery generalities are not necessarily truth, and usually turn out not to be factual at all.Trying to assign "legitimacy" to our little hobby is understandable, but if one pursues that course, it must be with facts. At this moment the facts support only the same random occurence 12,000 years ago that one would expect to find today....there is no viable reason to think that anything has changed, except for the presence of more voyuers due to our additional exposure via Internet.
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I subscribe to every word!
Especially about the attempt to legitimize due to the historical background
and the growth of such deviation due to the influence of the Internet.
 
Svaðilfari said:
I subscribe to every word!
Especially about the attempt to legitimize due to the historical background
and the growth of such deviation due to the influence of the Internet.
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I feel like we have big brains and already do lots of things that are "deviations" from the original biological purpose of something to not call them deviations? It's just things humans do and it is more when and where you are if the thing you do is okay.
 
marriedkinks said:
I feel like we have big brains and already do lots of things that are "deviations" from the original biological purpose of something to not call them deviations? It's just things humans do and it is more when and where you are if the thing you do is okay.
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Thanks for the comment. Whether consciously or not, you've just raised at least two thorny scientific issues:
in evolutionary biology: abnormally large brains
and in the field of cultural anthropology: practices of sexual deviance.

I do not have the competence to convincingly prove that bestiality (and any other deviations) is abnormal.

But thanks for the food for thought! This is interesting.
 
marriedkinks said:
I feel like we have big brains and already do lots of things that are "deviations" from the original biological purpose of something to not call them deviations? It's just things humans do and it is more when and where you are if the thing you do is okay.
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"Deviation" is a word used to account statistically for outside of average occurrences. Don't make the mistake of thinking that "Average" is not important, especially in this case....We have already got a whole generation of idiots "educated" by Internet who've forgotten manners, maturity, and historical data.They seem to believe that bullshit statement, "Pics or It didn't happen" covers 2 million years of human history, when photography has only been around just less than 200 years.

Our current World occupants are quite good at dismissing ANY thing that did not happen to themselves as 'Apochryphal'. They are "Idiots, full of sound and fury, signifying Nothing". One hopes this will change back to what it once was; one does not, however, hold one's breath.
 
new_to_this_902jws said:
Alfred Kinsey in 1948 found that 8 million people had experienced zoophilia in the US (population at time 146 million). Thats more than one in 20 people. A follow up study by Morton M Hunt in 1974 put it at 4.9% for men and 1.9% for women.
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Which is + - in agreement with every study ever done under Scientific methodology.

The Brazil stats are either outliers, or speak to desperation among men working in places where there are no women. Mining, logging and some other industries in Brazil have destroyed the Native populations that had remained Stone-Age and pre-agriculturefor hundrrds of millennia, by trafficking in their Women.

34 percent is far higher than it should be otherwise. Note the "rural" categorization, as well. That in itself is suspect.
 
Don't know what's happening here but seeing people debating in zooville after being gone for months is like rediscovering those old classic movies. Familiar faces but still the same ending, nonetheless still interesting.

Don't mind me
 
labanlarsson said:
In sweden the history said a queen in the 1800 sentury died after she having sex with a horse.
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Which had nada to do with Sweden, bud. Catherine The Great, Empress of Russia was the victim of those stories. She was ethnically a German, married a Russian in the Orthodox Church, and was crowned. When her Hub died, she inherited.

Consider the outrage among the Nationalists in her day, when A GERMAN sat on the Tsar's Throne. It might give you a clue to the story, and the lies. Nonsense then, nonsense now
 
VolkaSoyuza said:
I was once told by someone that there is some history about zoophilia in north america during pre-colonial times? but they did not provide anything to corroborate it, I have yet to find anything to disprove it either.

Could anyone tell me whether this is true or not? I am not informed on the subject.
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Pre-Colonial times covers a lot of ground and very little of it is known turf. There are many NA origin stories about animal and human sex....but none can ever be corroborated. The likelihood is simple mythology. Don't expect much more
 
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