Bigpaws_Bear
Esteemed Citizen of ZV
Should we follow Hollywood's example and Add a disclaimer to Zoo content videos stating that "no animals were harmed in the process of making this movie?"
Do you suggest that as sort of a joke or as a genuine aid? Because I'm behind it either way
Makes sense, yeah.No it's not some kind of joke, I was thinking that people assume zoo's are Hurting animals.
So I thought, why not do what Hollywood does. assert that no animals were hurt/injured.
Nifty idea. With a major flaw that pretty much anybody ought to be able to see:
The response from "Joe Public" will be quite predictable - the exact words might vary, but the sense will be the same: "Of course those animal raping perverts would say that!"
Putting aside your (out of place) attempt at funny, what stops slimebags like Dog69er or any of the rest of the assholes that made material for that snuff site - what was it called? Animal nightmare, or something like that? - from pasting your handy-dandy "no animals were harmed" onto whatever rape/bondage/torture material they pitch out there?
Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
And you can bet that sure as rain falls from the sky and shit stinks, such an announcement will get pasted onto every piece of material that has an animal in it, no matter what kind of force, mistreatment, or outright torture is involved in the making of it.
I like your passion, but it's alright. People could definitely see through the lie of an extreme like that, and they'll have us fighting to see them brought to justice to prove it.Putting aside your (out of place) attempt at funny, what stops slimebags like Dog69er or any of the rest of the assholes that made material for that snuff site - what was it called? Animal nightmare, or something like that? - from pasting your handy-dandy "no animals were harmed" onto whatever rape/bondage/torture material they pitch out there?
Answer: ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
And you can bet that sure as rain falls from the sky and shit stinks, such an announcement will get pasted onto every piece of material that has an animal in it, no matter what kind of force, mistreatment, or outright torture is involved in the making of it.
Please wipe the foam from your mouth, it was merely a thought experiment.
BTW I have never seen nor heard of Dog69er, or any animal snuff sites, because that's not something I would be interested in at all.
People with an ounce of sense can be hard to find these days. Even here.I say just leave it as is - anyone with an ounce of sense can see our animals are not hared in any way
Precisely my point. Lotsa luck finding that "somebody"...It only works if you can put an authority behind it, someone impartial and knowledgeable who can say "I inspected and approved."
Well, like it was already said, it's easy to just say this. If that was some kind of standard for zoo porn, everybody creating that stuff would be claiming that. The zeta principles 20 years ago kinda had the same idea in mind, preventing animals from being abused by some kind of zoo porn industry, in the end every bestialist claimed he was 100% behind the principles, except they weren't.No it's not some kind of joke, I was thinking that people assume zoo's are Hurting animals.
So I thought, why not do what Hollywood does. assert that no animals were hurt/injured.
It's not a matter of "interest" - I'm quite certain that, whether you realize it or not, you've seen dog69er's stuff. Ever seen the GSD fucking the ewe (not the one posted elsewhere on this site - that one is a totally different vid, and there's no question that both parties in it are, if not enjoying it, at least not under any duress)? In the dog69er version, it's shot so that it's hard to be absolutely certain, but it looks a whole lot like the ewe is roped to the wall so she can't leave, while the dog is, at best, about halfway interested, so a human gives a "helping hand" by jacking him off, then shoving his dick into the ewe for him. That's one of his. One of his milder items, in all truth... Many of the "gay dogs mating" vids are also his, and every single one of them is a rape scene, regardless of the claims - the bottom is always muzzled and bound, for starters. His crap is basically impossible to avoid, since he was pretty prolific, and there are a scary-huge number of imbeciles who think his style of stuff was cool, and keep reposting it here, there, and everywhere.
The website I mentioned was one of those sites on <cue dramatic scary music>THE DARK WEB!<cut dramatic scary music>. I never actually saw the site itself before it got nuked, thankfully, but stuff grabbed from it (or so the posters stated) was often posted over on ***** before they got taken out, and it was ... Well, the kindest word I can use is "Disgusting". One of the most disturbing pieces that I've ever had the misfortune to stumble across was either a doberman, or an extremely emaciated rotty (hard to tell for certain which) bitch roped down over a log and being sodomized with the splintered end of a baseball bat that had been jaggedly broken off at the handle. Her anus was clearly ripped and bleeding profusely, and shreds of tissue that I can only assume were her intestines were dangling out as she screamed and struggled to escape and find someplace to curl up and die. There's no question in my mind that she was fatally injured - you don't shove almost 2 feet of splintered baseball bat up a dog's ass and expect it to live... The part that terrifies me is that SUPPOSEDLY, that was "mild" stuff by the standards of the crowd who hung there and/or transported the shit those freaks posted over to *****.
Maybe we should like... make an organisation? Attach their name to these disclaimers? I know it won't be considered "valid" be any aggressive non-zoos, but it would still be valid for us, and that's really the best we can hope for.Precisely my point. Lotsa luck finding that "somebody"...
Sounds like a pretty bad idea. Organisations like these might be easy to target for authorities also labels can always be faked. There is simply no validity in those messages.Maybe we should like... make an organisation? Attach their name to these disclaimers? I know it won't be considered "valid" be any aggressive non-zoos, but it would still be valid for us, and that's really the best we can hope for.
Maybe each approved video and image can be assigned a number that can be looked up in an official database, so as to prevent people making fake approval messages.
Obviously it's just spitballing and would probably involve a lot of work, but hey, just throwing it out there.
Exactly.Gonna play a bit of "Devils Advocate" here...
Watching as this discussion progresses, I see many parallels to other things, products of all kinds are counterfeited all the time, explain to me how this is any different than any of those "products"? As far as I can tell there is ZERO difference.
All kinds of products are "mislabeled", "Counterfeited", and misrepresented. from clothing, to perfumes, and even health care products.
you cannot control everyone, someone is always going to try & cheat any regulatory system.
usually to make a higher profit margin.
Also a good, valid point.After seeing a few clips I wonder if should also say
"no women were harmed or forced to participate and have been paid fairly.
While everyone is busy to see possible animal abuse here, his site has some other problem. Try to use the member search function. Try to type in terms like : pedo baby kid and whaterver terms those folks operate with. These users your search returns are absolutely silen here. But I reckon that they appreciate that it is possible to attach files to PMs on this site. I adressed this to the site admin in November 2 this year, but nothing seems changed. Pedophiles tend to use large poor managed sites as meet/regroup reserves. Beaker would not have let this go on, just saying..
And please nuke my account. I see no need to be on a site that will eventually get connected with pedophilia
?While everyone is busy to see possible animal abuse here, his site has some other problem. Try to use the member search function. Try to type in terms like : pedo baby kid and whaterver terms those folks operate with. These users your search returns are absolutely silen here. But I reckon that they appreciate that it is possible to attach files to PMs on this site. I adressed this to the site admin in November 2 this year, but nothing seems changed. Pedophiles tend to use large poor managed sites as meet/regroup reserves. Beaker would not have let this go on, just saying..
And please nuke my account. I see no need to be on a site that will eventually get connected with pedophilia