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User Permission Updates and Forum Changes

littlegaypup said:
Im here to meet other people who feel the same way I do, and I am not one who likes to say something if i dont feel like i have something to say. I also cant spend every waking hour here looking for something to respond to publicly. Im an introvert and these topics are sensitive already, so for me to have to post 120 more times - and not spamming - will take months. Ive already been around a while on here so it kinda feels pretty crappy to loose access to starting private conversations with people. Most of those conversations I have been able to start havent gone anywhere - so i do understand creating some systems to clear out the "wank brigade" as you say, it just feels like im being punished and I didnt do anything wrong.
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Goodness, you're acting like the world is ending. These are the new rules, accept them and stop whining. This isn't a dating site, and the majority of users like the new rules..
 
Blacksoul said:
Goodness, you're acting like the world is ending. These are the new rules, accept them and stop whining. This isn't a dating site, and the majority of users like the new rules..
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I appreciate what this site is for, and that it isnt mine. I should be allowed to have a reaction - and voice concerns.

My initial post was asking for clarification (from staff) because of a concern i had(based on the language used) and i do believe i was pretty mature in how i went about it as well.

Side note: Im not really here to date, just meeting people who feel the same way. I'm glad to know I still have the ability to start those private conversations.

In any case, I have already apologized to staff(about the confusion causing my concern - not about having a concern), which you are not. Either way I do apologize, I seem to have offended you and this wasn't my intention, as I'm sure is apparent.
 
littlegaypup said:
Firstly, I completely understand.

So to clarify, first you said to PM you must be member 30 days and then also have 20 posts, and then you say we may loose ability to PM if we dont meet both thresholds...
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Exactly.
You have bern here for over 30 days, and you presently have 52 messages, so you have an "start conversation" button and you CAN message people now.

littlegaypup said:
I understand not being able to send photos in PMs without meeting a higher threshold, but do i now have to post 120 more times to be able to privately message other users now?
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No. You can message them now as is. Just you can not send dick pics orcwhatever attachement you fancy sending.

It is not 120 *more* cause you already have 52.
 
littlegaypup said:
Firstly, I completely understand.

So to clarify, first you said to PM you must be member 30 days and then also have 20 posts, and then you say we may loose ability to PM if we dont meet both thresholds...

I understand not being able to send photos in PMs without meeting a higher threshold, but do i now have to post 120 more times to be able to privately message other users now?
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If you don't have 20 posts in general, then you don't get the ability to. Its just being signed up in general for 30 days and having 20 posts, if you don't have 20 within 30, then no pm. Till you get 30.
Also doesn't mean quickly spam 20 posts just to get it, because one of us will just happen to delete all of them.


littlegaypup said:
Im here to meet other people who feel the same way I do, and I am not one who likes to say something if i dont feel like i have something to say. I also cant spend every waking hour here looking for something to respond to publicly. Im an introvert and these topics are sensitive already, so for me to have to post 120 more times - and not spamming - will take months. Ive already been around a while on here so it kinda feels pretty crappy to loose access to starting private conversations with people. Most of those conversations I have been able to start havent gone anywhere - so i do understand creating some systems to clear out the "wank brigade" as you say, it just feels like im being punished and I didnt do anything wrong.
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Its not that you should make it a job to post on here everyday, find a thread you like to respond to. Or make one of interests that fits a category. You just take as long as you like.
 
Are posts the same as replies to posts or must they be new threads? Personally this makes me feel a lot more comfortable about the site. It's not something you want to talk to just anybody about. Happy to wait the 30 days.
 
pes said:
@FloofyNewfie good job. Did you also update this info in the rules?
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Both the rules, and all of @Oldman's pinned "Private messages and why new members can't" threads will need to be updated. But I have not done so yet.

azknottysex said:
any changes toward the groups sections?
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The ability for new members to create groups was also revoked. But honestly that was an oversight, as it should have been revoked before.

However, don't be surprised if some potentially major changes happens to groups themselves in the future. Because as they stand now, they're a bit of a moderating nightmare to deal with.

littlegaypup said:
So to clarify, first you said to PM you must be member 30 days and then also have 20 posts, and then you say we may loose ability to PM if we dont meet both thresholds...

I understand not being able to send photos in PMs without meeting a higher threshold, but do i now have to post 120 more times to be able to privately message other users now?
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The OLD PM restriction were as follows: "You must make 10 posts on the forum to unlock it, and there was no set number of days you had to be a member to unlock it."

The NEW restrictions are now: "You must make 20 posts on the forum and you must be a member for 30 days."

The forum software only cares about numbers, when it comes to user permissions for user promotions. So what I mean by "you may lose your ability to PM if you don't meet both thresholds" is that if a member previous had e.g. 12 posts and had been a member for e.g. 20 days, they would have previously been able to send PMs. But with this new update, the same user would now need to make 8 more posts and wait 10 more days to be able to PM again. They would not be grandfathered in.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
These changes are mainly due to privacy and user safety concerns. To view the forum you HAVE to be a member of the forum. Due to the nature of zoophilia and bestiality, and due to the fact that this is the largest forum about these topics, we believe having an account should be a bare minimum requirement.

Thank you for your understanding on the matter.
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I do believe that these are some great changes overall, it is true that ZooVille is essentially the largest Zoophilia forum out of all currently, and I hope it stays that way for the forseeable future.

Throughout my life, I have always been a severe lurker online and have never really posted anywhere on the internet at all, but more recently I have been trying to change that a little.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
They would not be grandfathered in.
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You sure about that?

Existing lurkers were grandfathered into PMs in the original 10 post requirement change made back in '21, and I'm pretty sure I've seen at least a few profiles in the last day that still have PM buttons despite being below 20 posts, and not being part of the 4+ year old group that was grandfathered in '21.

Don't know any off the top of my head, but if I spot one again I can post it if you want.
 
dartel said:
You sure about that?

Existing lurkers were grandfathered into PMs in the original 10 post requirement change made back in '21, and I'm pretty sure I've seen at least a few profiles in the last day that still have PM buttons despite being below 20 posts, and not being part of the 4+ year old group that was grandfathered in '21.

Don't know any off the top of my head, but if I spot one again I can post it if you want.
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While I haven't penetration tested it, I'm pretty sure.

The forum software has user permission redundancy. Every account will have 2 places where an account will have permissions set. One is the base level (selectable) and the other is promotional (checkmark-able.) Basically when the 2021 promotion change was added, it set the new base level (selectable) permission to a new lower base level moving forward. However the pre-2021 accounts still had the, then and now, second level of promotion already selected. Because the initial "first level" became the "second level" moving forward. So pre-2021 accounts basically get treated as if they are on the second level of promotion instead of first level, because they are in the selectable section but not the checkmark-able section.

When you create a new account it'll set the selectable to first level, and when they meet the threshold for the next level, it'll checkmark the next level of promotion. It's basically stackable. The pre-2021 accounts still get the stackable checkmark-able permissions applied, but their base level is higher than post-2021 accounts.

However, unlike in 2021, I didn't add a new promotion. The main change I made was that I upped the promotion criteria of the already existing promotion. The forum software will not unselect the selectable base level automatically, but it should uncheck a promotion if they no longer meet the criteria to have it.
 
Kinda bad for people that don't stay on long enough to make a post due to they have to work or have family that don't know how they are into this. Like me for example I work 6 to 7 days a week I'm tired when I get home. I get on here maybe 5 to 10 min then I'm about. Is it going to affect me?
 
biscuits1971 said:
Kinda bad for people that don't stay on long enough to make a post due to they have to work or have family that don't know how they are into this. Like me for example I work 6 to 7 days a week I'm tired when I get home. I get on here maybe 5 to 10 min then I'm about. Is it going to affect me?
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Why should this affect you? You have over 20 posts and have been here for a long time...
 
biscuits1971 said:
Kinda bad for people that don't stay on long enough to make a post due to they have to work or have family that don't know how they are into this. Like me for example I work 6 to 7 days a week I'm tired when I get home. I get on here maybe 5 to 10 min then I'm about. Is it going to affect me?
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Funnily enough this is me ahaha I just quietly couldn’t figure out that was the issue until I saw someone else say it was 10, now it is 20 but I can manage as I do
 
littlegaypup said:
Im here to meet other people who feel the same way I do, and I am not one who likes to say something if i dont feel like i have something to say. I also cant spend every waking hour here looking for something to respond to publicly. Im an introvert and these topics are sensitive already, so for me to have to post 120 more times - and not spamming - will take months. Ive already been around a while on here so it kinda feels pretty crappy to loose access to starting private conversations with people. Most of those conversations I have been able to start havent gone anywhere - so i do understand creating some systems to clear out the "wank brigade" as you say, it just feels like im being punished and I didnt do anything wrong.
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Trust me - You'll survive.
 
I agree with this. Definitely a lot of people doing some spur of the moment stuff or who are not safe lurking around here. Activity and time are certainly welcomed milestones.
 
Completely understandable given the reputation of the subject of this forum. I was afraid to interact knowing anyone could see the posts here, so thank you for concerning yourself with our privacy.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
Hello ZooVille!

I'm just giving everyone a heads up that the user privilege permissions have been updated on the forum, along with some other changes to the layout.

NEW User Permissions:

  • To be able to access PMs (Private Messages) you must now make at least 20 posts AND you must be a member for at least 30 days on the forum.
  • Further restrictions have also been applied to the PM + Pictures privilege. You must get 150 posts on the forum AND you must be a member for 60 days to be able to send pictures in PM.
  • Note: that if you do not meet these new requirements, you may lose access to the ability to send new PMs until you meet both thresholds.

PMs are not a right, they are a privilege that needs to be earned. While setting the bar to 10 posts did cut down on lurker spam, it's become obvious that it's too easy for people to spam 10 posts and then start breaking rules in PMs. While 20 is not a hard number of posts to reach, there's nothing that can be done to subvert father time. You must be patient.

Logged Out / Guest Forum Access:

  • The ability to read the forum while you are logged out as been revoked. You'll now see the forum categories, but they will all be set to private.
  • This excludes the "ZooVille - News and Announcements" section of the forum, which will still be visible to Guests / Logged Out users.
  • The ability to use the search function while a Guest / Logged Out has been revoked. Only members with a valid account may use the search function.
  • "ZooVille.org News and Announcements" has been renamed to "ZooVille - News and Announcements" this is because "ZooVille.org" is a locked domain, and I don't think the registrar is going to give it back to us. You may also notice that this section is it's own category now and no longer a part of the general section. This was the only way to unlock it for Guests / Logged Out users.

These changes are mainly due to privacy and user safety concerns. To view the forum you HAVE to be a member of the forum. Due to the nature of zoophilia and bestiality, and due to the fact that this is the largest forum about these topics, we believe having an account should be a bare minimum requirement.

Thank you for your understanding on the matter.
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Sounds good
 
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