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Appeal bans / un fair banning and moderation

asshat said:
This forum stinks, your post gets deleted for a specifically stated infraction - you repost it with the according amendment ~ and it STILL just gets redeleted for the same or worse reason. Stupid power tripping internet narcissists can't handle being wrong - fuck you and die dumb cunts.
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Since paranoia seems to be trendy here ... I would like to put a little bit of mine.
Beeing so honnest and explain to everybody how moderation works can weaken it. Pervs are pervs, they will know how to deal with it.
Sometimes the deep smoke have a dissuasive effect. But I like this clear honesty tough.

I am not talking about substance abuse, no transition :

Bloit said:
JEZUS FUCKING CHRIST
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When I read that, I just wonder if the Dutchy Tushie yells its Nederlands. Wait ... I may be wrong, is JeZus our Lord ?
 
Asshat wanted to be fucked out. He was more an ass than a hat after all.
No JeZus for Zoos ? Hum. Sad. I'll toss a "fuck" or two to make it less bitter.
 
knotboy6969 said:
then someone explain to me why, coincidentally, just after a heated discussion between me and another member was shut down and deleted (moderated) suddenly my ability to edit any comment i ever made dissapeared ? and only for me but \the account next to me im staring at still had their edit ability ? then very coincidentally again... minutes after this post was created, my edit ability was available again?
it seems way to coincidental ( i also have proof of all this btw)
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As others pointed out, if your account has less than 150 counted posts (yours is at 68 posts) then you'll only have an hour or two to edit your posts. Once you reach 150 posts or more you'll be able to indefinitely edit posts. This rule was implemented because we had a notorious troll that would post normally on the forum for awhile and then turn around and edit his posts with gore, death, and other horrible imagery.

Now, if a post is locked by a mod, or your post is sent to our spam filter, that does take your ability to edit away... on that one post. I could also go in and edit your profile and remove your editing abilities myself, but I assure you I have not. I have better things to do.

Daedalus said:
The threshold may or may not be configurable, but it is definitely set to 150 here on ZV.
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Yeah, it's completely configurable in the admin panel of the forum software. I've tweaked a few settings, updated some things, here and there, but the 10 post (first hurdle) and 150 (second hurdle) was set by ZT. I could change it to a different number or more/less restrict the permission settings... but eh... 10/150 works for the most part.

knotboy6969 said:
i mean lets be real, no body is holding up their id or birth cert for age verification so its really if you think they are too young or not. there is not a single person here that has the same veiw on age as another ( personally i know some 18-19s that look too young, just as i know some 15 yr olds that look 20) (( normal life btw, not sexually ) and yes most are obvious, but you have to agree some can be questionable, and without knowing for sure we ere on the side of saftey , totally agree.
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There is not. We have to err on the side of caution, as while law enforcement doesn't like zoophilia, they REALLLLY don't like underaged shit. We don't want that crap on here, and we sure as hell don't want to be stuck holding the bag. That said, I've called the "16-20 age range" the "awkward age range to judge" on many occasions, for the reasons you've mentioned. I've definitely seen 16 year olds that appear to be 20, and I've definitely seen 18/19/20 year olds that appear to be 16. As a general rule, if we're not sure, your post will be deleted and removed from the server. We use our best judgement on the matter, but if it could be mistaken as underaged... it is. If it's a matter of "he/she/they kinda looks underaged but could very well be of age" we might just simply delete the post with an explanation and not give the user that posted it an actual warning strike if none of us are exactly sure. If it's a matter of "he/she/they definitely looks underaged, and while there's always a slim chance that they are not, we aren't taking any chances." you'll find yourself with a ban.

Really, if you use common sense (I know, an abstract concept these days) you'll be fine. If you intend on sharing a video but the person "barely looks 18" just... don't post it? It's not that hard, and I'm not saying that everyone has to be 50+ either. If the person in the video you wish to share definitely looks over 18, say 20s and above, then you'll be fine to post it as long as it's not a repost of a video that's already been shared 200 times or doesn't contain any abuse. But this is under our discretion. We're all volunteers here, we do the best we can to herd the feral cats that inhabit this place. If our gut says "he/she/they looks underaged" we're going to do what we need to do. It's as simple as that.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
Now, if a post is locked by a mod, or your post is sent to our spam filter, that does take your ability to edit away... on that one post. I could also go in and edit your profile and remove your editing abilities myself, but I assure you I have not. I have better things to do.
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I’ve accepted the responses on that frankly cuz I don’t have any mental energy for it , so whatever happened happened , server glitch or something idk lol but you saying that it is possible for edit abilities to be removed, does make me feel less like a crazy person. So I appreciate that.
But I’m just letting it go .
It was a bad day for me and there was a lot going on so it reflected here . So i apologize to everyone
FloofyNewfie said:
There is not. We have to err on the side of caution, as while law enforcement doesn't like zoophilia, they REALLLLY don't like underaged shit. We don't want that crap on here, and we sure as hell don't want to be stuck holding the bag. That said, I've called the "16-20 age range" the "awkward age range to judge" on many occasions, for the reasons you've mentioned. I've definitely seen 16 year olds that appear to be 20, and I've definitely seen 18/19/20 year olds that appear to be 16. As a general rule, if we're not sure, your post will be deleted and removed from the server. We use our best judgement on the matter, but if it could be mistaken as underaged... it is. If it's a matter of "he/she/they kinda looks underaged but could very well be of age" we might just simply delete the post with an explanation and not give the user that posted it an actual warning strike if none of us are exactly sure. If it's a matter of "he/she/they definitely looks underaged, and while there's always a slim chance that they are not, we aren't taking any chances." you'll find yourself with a ban.
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That’s probably the most reasonable answer and the first that can also see my point about the grey area .
FloofyNewfie said:
Really, if you use common sense (I know, an abstract concept these days) you'll be fine. If you intend on sharing a video but the person "barely looks 18" just... don't post it? It's not that hard, and I'm not saying that everyone has to be 50+ either. If the person in the video you wish to share definitely looks over 18, say 20s and above, then you'll be fine to post it as long as it's not a repost of a video that's already been shared 200 times or doesn't contain any abuse. But this is under our discretion. We're all volunteers here, we do the best we can to herd the feral cats that inhabit this place. If our gut says "he/she/they looks underaged" we're going to do what we need to do. It's as simple as that.
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Over all I really appreciate and respect your entire post , thoughtful, respectful, and professional. Thank you
 
Mare Lover 1975 said:
t was probably @healthy,
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Oh was this thread all over this guy?
knotboy6969 said:
Just because it’s hard to tell , has nothing to with liking it . I’m gay, I watch gay porn . But have access to a lot with women as well . I don’t like women, care to watch women etc . So I it’s not my specialty as guessing ages . So yea some can be hard . Guys I’m pretty good at judging age and can get pretty close , but have no desire to look at girls so don’t have that eye . Has nothing to do with likeimg the porn
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You've been saying words for.... Literally hours, and have never answered no one but just kept throwing out words like you're actually saying something.
Just like most that get banned and get someone to get on here to complain. Like my god, its real easy to read the site and see the type of content here. What's allowed and what's not. If you're not choking your dog while missionary, you're fine. If you're not asking for an obvious cp video (EVEN IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU AS A WARNING) you're fine.

You're making it so complicated that even if someone asks for the username you go on a rant again, so you can have things to say to your friend that "They DiDnT wANt lISTEn TO mE"

If we were "ban happy," we could've just banned you already just by the first part of this thread.
 
dogluver101 said:
Oh was this thread all over this guy?
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NO... I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THAT USER IS AT ALL LOL........AND JUST ASSUME IT WAS THEM... WONDER WHY I DONT SAY, IVE BEEN IN GROUP DM DISCUSSION ABOUT IT WITH MODS......
dogluver101 said:
You've been saying words for.... Literally hours, and have never answered no one but just kept throwing out words like you're actually saying something.
Just like most that get banned and get someone to get on here to complain. Like my god, its real easy to read the site and see the type of content here. What's allowed and what's not. If you're not choking your dog while missionary, you're fine. If you're not asking for an obvious cp video (EVEN IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU AS A WARNING) you're fine.

You're making it so complicated that even if someone asks for the username you go on a rant again, so you can have things to say to your friend that "They DiDnT wANt lISTEn TO mE"

If we were "ban happy," we could've just banned you already just by the first part of this thread.
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DUDE MY LAST POST ABOUT IT WAS LIKE 12 HOURS AGO , ASIDE FROM THE RESPONSE TO FLOOFY. WHO BTW WAS THE ONLY ONE TO ACTUALLY COMPREHEND MY POINT AS WHOLE, AND IN A VERY RESPECTFUL MANNOR.

SRY ABOUT CAPS IT WONT GO OFF FOR SOME REASON AND ITS ANOYING TF OUTTA ME LOL
 
Welp, looks like I made it too late. Ope, spoke too soon. 😅
I'll start off by saying I suffered through the first page and skipped to the 4th.
Fauna775 said:
but I've been walking on eggshells since around November. I have no ulterior motives, but I'm a little afraid
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knotboy6969 said:
so many people are afraid to post anything here because they are afraid of one thing or another.
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I don't get these statements at all. I can't recall a single time I made a post (thread, comment, or otherwise) and thought, oh man, I hope I don't get banned/in trouble for this.
FloofyNewfie said:
That said, I've called the "16-20 age range" the "awkward age range to judge" on many occasions, for the reasons you've mentioned.
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Yeah, it's been a long time since I've watched any human/human porn. At least 15 years, but I remember there being a "barely legal teens" category on PornHub and even back in the days of Girls Gone Wild commercials that came on at 2 or 3 in the morning. There was a quickly read fine print section stating all girls are 18+. I'm pretty sure most porn companies that try/tried capitalizing on the fetish (or whatever you want to call liking girls that are of a questionable age) but didn't want to get arrested. They looked for cough, "actresses" that look underage but aren't.
Thus, I totally get it's possible they aren't underaged but I understand and agree with erring on the side of caution as the best way to deal with it.

knotboy6969 said:
but can nobody at least see from my side , how the timing of it worked out?
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I delete my own posts after I get high at night because I'll think it's too much personal information.
I've never had any problems with the mods. I ask annoying questions but I think they know I'm a doofus by now.

There's a certain type of personality that seems to have issues with the mod team.
 
I'm going to stick up for anyone that admits to being wrong and apologizes as it is just so very rare these days. I believe this issue is settled. Now let's shake dicks and walk away
 
Sramichoo said:
Welp, looks like I made it too late. Ope, spoke too soon. 😅
I'll start off by saying I suffered through the first page and skipped to the 4th.
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the middle of any book is the boring part , didnt miss much lol

Sramichoo said:
I don't get these statements at all. I can't recall a single time I made a post (thread, comment, or otherwise) and thought, oh man, I hope I don't get banned/in trouble for this.
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im talking mainly about scared to post content , ive had several people tell we they wont post videos hear our of fear of issues, however its usually from the narrow viewed Karen's, i have over 3000 videos and i will never post any here myself , cuz i dont want to deal with any issues , even if its a standard vid
Sramichoo said:
Yeah, it's been a long time since I've watched any human/human porn. At least 15 years, but I remember there being a "barely legal teens" category on PornHub and even back in the days of Girls Gone Wild commercials that came on at 2 or 3 in the morning. There was a quickly read fine print section stating all girls are 18+. I'm pretty sure most porn companies that try/tried capitalizing on the fetish (or whatever you want to call liking girls that are of a questionable age) but didn't want to get arrested. They looked for cough, "actresses" that look underage but aren't.
Thus, I totally get it's possible they aren't underaged but I understand and agree with erring on the side of caution as the best way to deal with it.
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i see it more like , someone who is 18-19 yrs old for example, what are they going to look for? usually its not daddy's and bears, or bbw, milfs etc......to them its gonna most likely be late teen -early adult , and some might be on that edge, however there is no malefic intent to it, some said if you watch that then you must be a pedo, ...

tell me how a 18 boy looking for some porn with someone around his age automatically labels him a pedo? do we really think thats right? or as soon as you turn 18, you must by unwritten law only watch porn with dilfs, and milfs? so we expect people to change who they are or what they like?

mainly that we need to acknowlege that a grey does exist, and where it falls in the grey. floof had the perfect response and not just "anything close or border line means you like it and your a pedo too, and death penalty for all" like how some responded....:cautious:
 
Sumpup said:
I'm going to stick up for anyone that admits to being wrong and apologizes as it is just so very rare these days. I believe this issue is settled. Now let's shake dicks and walk away
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i admitted i was wrong about the reason and such , but to counter what literally every one has said , the ability for it to be removed does actually exist .... so yall go eat a foot.. lol
FloofyNewfie said:
Now, if a post is locked by a mod, or your post is sent to our spam filter, that does take your ability to edit away... on that one post. I could also go in and edit your profile and remove your editing abilities myself, but I assure you I have not. I have better things to do.
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i have agreed this is not what happened , only quoting to say...SEE THE FUNCTION DOES ACTUALLY EXIST!

LOL, I also let this die, y'all keep resurrecting it ..
 
Bloit said:
How fucking inept are you that you can't turn off caps lock?! The fuck.
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Why are you so angry , alllllllllll the dang time?


* the crotchety elderly man was sitting on his front porch, soaking in the morning sun. his best friend , Brutus, lay beside him while he watches the sun break the crest of the hill down yonder. the floor creaks as he rocks back and forth, just gazing into the distance. he hold a shot gun over his lap, just incase the children from the near by orphanage wander a single step onto his well manicured lawn. Brutus's ears perk up just as you hear " hey you kids, GET OFF MY LAWN!!*


Can someone give this one a hug or something to brighten his day




i do hope yall realize its in good fun....
 
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Bloit said:
Except no post was actually locked, or a mod would've said so already...
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yes we have established that and this has died .......however you all also said the ability to do exactly what i said ( remove edit) did not exist whatsoever

just saying it does, that is all , ability does exist nothing more , nothing less , thats all

now go hug a puppy or something or do what most do ..
 
I'm not angry, I'm baffled at the mental gymnasics you perform, and your apparent incapability to operate a fucking (touch) keyboard.

Not to mention the amount of time you wasted turning something simple into.... This.
 
you were angry with every post from the start..... and for the record im using a portable slim keyboard and a chunk of i think rock salt was stuck in there not letting it press down

. And yea my mind goes thru a lot of gymnastics, since i got that brain injury several years back so i can be a little slow occasionally .

thank you kindly, you have the most lovely insults. They really brighten my day
 
knotboy6969 said:
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They'll ban you too. I'm giving it an 80% chance at this point.

And the other account, if I understand the sentences correctly, uploaded a video named "teen", mods this was deleted and warned. Then he deleted the word "teen" from the title and uploaded the same video again? geez...
Just because he delete it from this word doesn't change the content. :rolleyes:
This account will definitely not be reinstated.
And if you defend him, you will be banned too.


And the edit button works properly.
 
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