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Appeal bans / un fair banning and moderation

knotboy6969 said:
After seeing what yall have for moderation tools . Yea your options are limited. I didn’t realize yall had such limited tools. Basically it’s either WARN or BAN , and that’s the only two options? That’s horrible for moderation.
TBH I figured a forum this size moderators would have a lot more tools to their disposal. So i understand your limitations
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A forum of this size can not use a lot of in-between solutions. There will always be users who want/need to balance on the edge, such users can be a burden to a moderation team.
It is also known that pedos will take advantage of any weakness, being it ever so small. And somehow they believe to have the rights to do so on a zoo forum. Accept this or any other site as is.
Just like @Bloit I have this doubt, that you want to keep a small crack open for something that shall not be here.
 
I tried to go and edit any old post and it let me. But now I've opened other rabbit holes and cans of worms. There was something to this at some point.

While you are here , how would someone change their profile from tourist to guest ?
 
Bloit said:
You could've just taken their word for it 5 HOURS AGO
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In all my years of running/ moderating large forums I’ve never seen moderators with such limitations .
So whatever



And I feel like you’re still missing my point entirely.
All I was suggesting is that maybe an extra couple minutes spent with some thought before just perma insta banning instantly could yield a slightly less severe punishment, maybe a temp ban instead of perma idk . I was just saying not every instance is identical and shouldn’t be treated as such .


So if I had just taken the “no” “5 hours ago” and went away there would have never been an offer to look into anything.
So either someone is understanding my point or it’s to shut me up . Idk
 
The secret is , they do appeal certain infractions. Obviously it helps if they have friends like you. And it's certainly not fool proof. People slip through
 
Sumpup said:
While you are here , how would someone change their profile from tourist to guest ?
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Remember also that there is a distinction between 'guested' and banned -- the folks marked guested are usually self-requested deletions, meaning they actually went to a mod and asked to have their accounts removed. Some examples include having left this place for ZCA (EGoldstein, Octavian, so many others) or having to go underground into hiding for some catastrophic emergency (eg. Offgridk9's recent LEO scare).

MashaSobaka said:
The editing option is available for members with less than 150 comments for 2 hours, after which it disappears. This is normal.
Unlimited for those with more than 150 comments.
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Masha beat me to it. I was going to chime this in when I got to the end of reading this thread too. The threshold may or may not be configurable, but it is definitely set to 150 here on ZV. Permissions are kind of a tiered system in this software: more of them open up as you become more active, but you need to reach 150 posts before you have indefinite edit control. Knotboy isn't there yet, hence the 'mysterious' case of the disappearing edit button.
 
knotboy6969 said:
In all my years of running/ moderating large forums I’ve never seen moderators with such limitations .
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When ZThorse created this forum he never thought it would be the only one and the biggest. That's why the forum has a lot of shortcomings and errors, a piece of shit put together in a garage. And later on there was no need to fix them because it worked. And it still works today.

The "new" admin doesn't change this for two reasons, firstly as a zoophile he doesn't care what condition a fetish forum is in, as long as it works. Secondly the operation is still done by ZThorse and his friends, so the admin doesn't have access to deeper things.
 
MashaSobaka said:
When ZThorse created this forum he never thought it would be the only one and the biggest. That's why the forum has a lot of shortcomings and errors, a piece of shit put together in a garage. And later on there was no need to fix them because it worked. And it still works today.

The "new" admin doesn't change this for two reasons, firstly as a zoophile he doesn't care what condition a fetish forum is in, as long as it works. Secondly the operation is still done by ZThorse and his friends, so the admin doesn't have access to deeper things.
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MashaSobaka said:
This forum has many flaws, including human flaws.

However, that's not why the edit option disappeared.
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i don't care about edit button.

i find this whole interaction amusing.
"mods are out to get me."
"nuh. look at our toolkit."
"what a shite toolkit. i totally am a mod somewhere else and have way bigger toolkit."
"my buddy was banned unfairly."
"who?"
"not telling you."
"was it this guy?"
"..."

just...
 
knotboy6969 said:
And I feel like you’re still missing my point entirely.
All I was suggesting is that maybe an extra couple minutes spent with some thought before just perma insta banning instantly could yield a slightly less severe punishment, maybe a temp ban instead of perma idk . I was just saying not every instance is identical and shouldn’t be treated as such .
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No, you already suggested that, and I already answered that:

Bans like that aren’t for edge cases. They’re supporting obviously bad porn which should absolutely have been reported.

It’s an absolute wasre of time to wait for a user to make some lame excuse as to why they liked the content.

If you really are a moderator somewhere, you know contacting a user you’re gonna ban any way is in no way productive.
 
Bloit said:
No, you already suggested that, and I already answered that:

Bans like that aren’t for edge cases. They’re supporting obviously bad porn which should absolutely have been reported.

It’s an absolute wasre of time to wait for a user to make some lame excuse as to why they liked the content.

If you really are a moderator somewhere, you know contacting a user you’re gonna ban any way is in no way productive.
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Pes and a couple other mods will not uncommonly call out users to explain the meaning of something they posted. When activity shows the user has been online and failed to respond to the call then they get the ban.
 
This forum stinks, your post gets deleted for a specifically stated infraction - you repost it with the according amendment ~ and it STILL just gets redeleted for the same or worse reason. Stupid power tripping internet narcissists can't handle being wrong - fuck you and die dumb cunts.
 
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