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1000 follower limit

How on earth could you possibly be annoyed enough by 1,000 members to block that many is the real question lol

I've been here almost two years and I have ignored two
 
You're like trying to follow the entire user base. Just unfollow the ones that haven't logged in for years.
 
it'd also be nice to reject followers, instead of having to tell each one, and to deal with the follows of banned idiots no one can get rid of
 
jhallec3875 said:
How on earth could you possibly be annoyed enough by 1,000 members to block that many is the real question
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Dick, pussy, ass, breast, mating, humansex profile pic automatic ignore. Troll, flame comment automatic ignore. Idiot users ignore.
It's easy to achieve this on a site where the majority of users are sex-obsessed idiots with an IQ of 50.
On a site where the basic thinking is that the other user will lend their animals and have sex with everyone.
It is a tragedy that zoophilia attracts such a large number of idiots and fetishists.
 
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MashaSobaka said:
Dick, pussy, ass, breast, mating, humansex profile pic automatic ignore. Troll, flame comment automatic ignore. Idiot users ignore.
It's easy to achieve this on a site where the majority of users are sex-obsessed idiots with an IQ of 50.
On a site where the basic thinking is that the other user will lend their animals and have sex with everyone.
It is a tragedy that zoophilia attracts such a large number of idiots and fetishists.
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Well that does make sense. There does seem to be an unfortunate amount of that here...it's rather gross.
 
Y'all might consider the reality of following over a thousand people....The coders of these programs probably did. Theres no way anyone can keep up with that many people without spending 80 hours a week here....An inexpensive notebook would serve any user better...tho, Goddess forbid, anyone should have to actually WRITE anything these days.
 
FloofyNewfie said:
From what I've quickly researched, I don't think there's a way to change the number of max people allowed to be ignored from 1000 to any higher number, without either 1) Buying a plugin, or 2) Installing a free plug-in that appears to now be completely unmaintained since 2020. So it would likely be a possible security vulnerability.
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It could, but it would require an expense software update. I really don't see what good follow is other to keep good friends names. No one here has that many "real friends" most less than 10 probable. I think its would be a good tool for stalkers.
 
Is it possible to include a line on the "Following" page that includes the user's last activity date? This would help when trimming down the number of people to follow.

And yes, I agree with what many have said here and that the act of "following" is mostly pointless. For me at least, it is nice little dopamine hit to have "followers" and I like to do the same for others that are interesting contributors to the site. In reality, there is no way I can keep up with 1k people so it is most definitely a low priority item.
 
Elsewheree it was a problem that users here can not ignore more than 1000 users. Now the problem is that users here can not follow more than 1000 users. Imagine the amount of notifications, if all those 1000 users were active! I guess there are some inactive, or necro accounts among those 1000 users where following makes no sense in first place.
What is the criteria to follow someone? Because the user posts things of interest to you? Or just because she has a pussy? In case of the latter, I can see how the 1000 users limit becomes a problem, But in that case raising the limit to 5000 will only be a kind of short-time patch.
 
kiltedtech said:
Why not clear out the follows on accounts that have been inactive for 1+year - wouldn't that free up space? Can always rotate them back in if you see a post you like and continue the cycle - no sense in following dead accounts.
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How about we five a little leeway and say accounts where the user has not logged in in 2+ years? Maybe 3 or 5. I know I've left some unrelated sites for 5 years, came back and my login's still good. Maybe if any action were to be taken that would alter user data in a destructive manner to send an email notification to the user asking them to log in to prevent this.

I remember not using Skype for 3 years and I lost the cash I had in it. Honestly, as data structures, these are just lists in the form of arrays, dictionaries or KVP (Key Value Pairs), just the UID (Unique identifiers) of user IDs and possibly the names associated with each. They aren't expensive to store from a database perspective.

For web page queries to a database, an ignore list is a filter, an exclusion list. In basic SQL, or in any modern programming language, it's akin to making a request to the database to "return the list of whatever we are asking for and either exclude or filter out the contents of the list. The result filtering to exclude a list of records from a result can be done at database query time or in the front end display code since ignore lists are applied to replies of people not ignored but which may contain references to those who are.

We also can think of this factor. The site is being used by people on computers and mobile devices that are most likely more powerful than when the original code was written. If the site is hosted on non personally owned equipment, this equipment is also upgraded regularly.

Personally, I'm not into a certain category of things, so I find a lot of use in excluding users who are into those things. In doing this, I get access to more of what I'm looking for and I'm not wasting any time of those who are into what I'm not.

Think about Netflix, for example. If you don't have kids, then why would you want to be seeing kid shows? If you don't speak Antarctican (joke), then why would you want movies that are only in Antarcican? And if you don't ever want to play games from Netflix, then why are you prevented from removing the games from your feed? Netflix makes it very inconvenient to exclude what you don't want in the movies and TV case and that sucks but they also make it impossible to remove the games which sucks even more.

The TL;DR of this all is, "There's little harm in raising the limits of follow and exclude lists for users."

What scares me is that someone thinks that it may be a bannable offense to ignore people. Indirectly, this implies that moderators of certain fora (forums) should not be able to be ignored - on the fora that they moderate or in admin messages sent as notices to users - to prevent any warnings from not being seen.

How does that sound?
 
FloofyNewfie said:
From what I've quickly researched, I don't think there's a way to change the number of max people allowed to be ignored from 1000 to any higher number, without either 1) Buying a plugin, or 2) Installing a free plug-in that appears to now be completely unmaintained since 2020. So it would likely be a possible security vulnerability.
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It's just a programming change in the source code that manages the website.

I'm new here so I know nothing about a plugin or why why this couldn't be an edit to an HTML or PHP page. I think any of us could turn on developer mode in our browsers and view the source which doesn't violate any agreement or NDA or site use rules. That's just the way that web pages work. Of course there could be the limit in back end code that communicates to the database and any web client would not have access to that. I honestly don't feel that what I have mentioned violates any level of trust or agreement with the site owners. It's just background information on how web pages and browsers work. FYI.

The hard coded value of 1000 was put there by a programmer in the first place. We did this in programs we created back in the mid 1990s in Silicon Valley and thought "what about a time 5 - 10 years in the future when computers have more power and this manually imposed limit serves no purpose and can be 10 times higher? Would there be anyone working on the source code who knows that this limit exists?" We upped the limit by a factor of 6.

I can tell you that the hard coded limit of 1000 is merely put there for performance reasons. To make SQL database queries rapid and page displays snappy. And the tell here is that using a value of 1000 was a guess by the developers writing the code that this site runs on. It was an estimate of "This should be enough" made without much or any testing to see if it actually was and was based on the power of the computer and database that was in front of the programmer at the time they wrote it. That time being probably 5, 10 or even 15 years ago.

FYI, these observations are based on > 30 years in professional software development in Silicon Valley and elsewhere.
 
saddlebum66 said:
Following that many people seems impossible....how do you keep up with that many and still read posts and stuff?
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First of all, I am new here, I am still figuring out how to use this site.

I think that we all have feeds and our feeds will be populated by the activities of those we follow. Think of the feed as a aggregator of the activities of those you follow into one central location for you to enjoy. More research into the web platform this is based on will most likely help understand parts to it I have certainly missed.

What's more important to me is to ignore what I am not interested in. I can't be the only one who feels that way either. Not everything here is to be expected to be of the liking to everyone. Seeing what you wish to see while removing what you don't would seem to offer the better user experience.

One thing I can tell that an enormous level of work has gone into this site's creation. In fact, I just looked at the bottom of the page and can see that the site is built upon XenForo. If you visit their page, we can see that there is a Help page at the bottom with links to an admin manual, developer documentation and a help forum. I won't provide all of the links here, but the tools may be there if there is budjet and desire for the admins to do so.

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Actually, it appears that I was right about SQL being used for the database queries, so if I'm not tragically misinformed, changing the 1000 limit should be not a big deal - if there is desire by the admins and budget to do so.
 
OwnThatKinkGirl said:
Hi Pes. I think that each user's feed is populated by the activities of the people they follow. I could look in to it if you wish.
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In all reality, "follows" appear to do nothing on a practical level. So far as I've been able to figure out, the only thing that a "follow" accomplishes is adding posts by people you follow to the (at least for me) utterly useless "What's new" menu at the top of the page. (I consider it useless, since it's a duplicate of the same info that comes up under the "notification bell", with the addition of a "Somebody you follow said ... in thread ... on date ..." - Information that, as noted, is a duplicate of what you can already get in less "spammy" form from the notification bell icon.

Personally, I think I've got about 4 follows on my list, and AT LEAST two of them are the result of "Let's see if this does anything I care about even a little" experimentation, and are only still there because I'm too lazy to go to the (admittedly minuscule) effort to "unfollow" them.

So far as I'm concerned, the entire "follow" concept could fall off the edge of the world tomorrow, and I wouldn't notice.
 
UR20Z said:
In all reality, "follows" appear to do nothing on a practical level. So far as I've been able to figure out, the only thing that a "follow" accomplishes is adding posts by people you follow to the (at least for me) utterly useless "What's new" menu at the top of the page. (I consider it useless, since it's a duplicate of the same info that comes up under the "notification bell", with the addition of a "Somebody you follow said ... in thread ... on date ..." - Information that, as noted, is a duplicate of what you can already get in less "spammy" form from the notification bell icon.

Personally, I think I've got about 4 follows on my list, and AT LEAST two of them are the result of "Let's see if this does anything I care about even a little" experimentation, and are only still there because I'm too lazy to go to the (admittedly minuscule) effort to "unfollow" them.

So far as I'm concerned, the entire "follow" concept could fall off the edge of the world tomorrow, and I wouldn't notice.
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We're both online. Let's figure it out. Let me follow you and see if you get any info added to a feed based on stuff I've done. Cool?
 
OwnThatKinkGirl said:
We're both online. Let's figure it out. Let me follow you and see if you get any info added to a feed based on stuff I've done. Cool?
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I can save you the effort: So far as I've been able to determine, the ONLY thing Following does is add posts by someone you follow to the "What's new" menu. I believe it's specifically in the the "latest activity" sub-section of the pull-down, but I'd have to double-check to be certain - it's been a couple years since I cared enough to play with it to try to find out.
 
It also depends on the "Receive your news feed" setting which if set to nobody means following that person does nothing except you show up on their following list and they receive a notification that you followed them.
 
UR20Z said:
I can save you the effort: So far as I've been able to determine, the ONLY thing Following does is add posts by someone you follow to the "What's new" menu. I believe it's specifically in the the "latest activity" sub-section of the pull-down, but I'd have to double-check to be certain - it's been a couple years since I cared enough to play with it to try to find out.
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Yeah, so it acts as an aggregator of posts and actions for people you follow to put them all in one place. A pretty significant feature if you follow more than one person. At least in my book, it is.
 
OwnThatKinkGirl said:
First of all, I am new here, I am still figuring out how to use this site.

I think that we all have feeds and our feeds will be populated by the activities of those we follow. Think of the feed as a aggregator of the activities of those you follow into one central location for you to enjoy. More research into the web platform this is based on will most likely help understand parts to it I have certainly missed.

What's more important to me is to ignore what I am not interested in. I can't be the only one who feels that way either. Not everything here is to be expected to be of the liking to everyone. Seeing what you wish to see while removing what you don't would seem to offer the better user experience.

One thing I can tell that an enormous level of work has gone into this site's creation. In fact, I just looked at the bottom of the page and can see that the site is built upon XenForo. If you visit their page, we can see that there is a Help page at the bottom with links to an admin manual, developer documentation and a help forum. I won't provide all of the links here, but the tools may be there if there is budjet and desire for the admins to do so.

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XenForo is a compelling community forum platform with a premium user experience, reliability, flexibility and security. There is no better platform upon which to grow your community.
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Overview | Developer Documentation | XenForo

Developer documentation for XenForo
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Actually, it appears that I was right about SQL being used for the database queries, so if I'm not tragically misinformed, changing the 1000 limit should be not a big deal - if there is desire by the admins and budget to do so.
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Youre talking to the wrong boy, bud...I have no followers and I do not follow anyone. You want to read my posts? Go to my profile page and hit the postings button. all 13, 000 will show up, in newest-oldest order. Whats hard?
 
saddlebum66 said:
Youre talking to the wrong boy, bud...I have no followers and I do not follow anyone. You want to read my posts? Go to my profile page and hit the postings button. all 13, 000 will show up, in newest-oldest order. Whats hard?
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That's exactly the thing. You may like 5 people or 50. I don't know. What I'm saying is that the purpose of the feature is that maybe someone wants to know what the people they follow - not any specific one person - has posted. If a user follows people of interest, then that feature can be of use to them. If that's not you, then to you, it is useless. But all of us exist within the group of users who are here and the habits of those users may be "follow no one, have no threads bookmarked or posts watched" or "follow more then one person, bookmark the threads they like and watch the posts that interest them". I'm just trying to explain what I think its purpose may be, so we know what we're talking about. If it's not a feature you care about then well, it's not a feature you care about.

Sure, someone can remember you and scroll through your 13,000 posts, but that might be a little much.

But if a user remembers something they saw a few says ago, are they going to remember that you posted it? I don't know.

It's possible that someone may remember a message or a post and not the person it's connected to. They can scroll through the recent activity and look for the post - if it was recent.

All I'm trying to do is figure out the purpose of the functionality we're talking about, not tell people to use it or not to. Just to understand it. Generally, discussing this with people who have spent more time here using the site (you guys) are the best people to learn from. That's why I'm discussing it + offering my perspective (from the software world) if it could help to fix the issue (which was the 1000 user limit to follow or ignore).
 
saddlebum66 said:
Y'all might consider the reality of following over a thousand people....The coders of these programs probably did. Theres no way anyone can keep up with that many people without spending 80 hours a week here....An inexpensive notebook would serve any user better...tho, Goddess forbid, anyone should have to actually WRITE anything these days.
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It's a number they picked out of the air. I can say that as a fact. But I can also say that you're 100% right.

I can see wanting to ignore 1000+ people though.

Back when I watched Amazon Prime, there was so much garbage that I never wanted to see, I was forced to ignore every show I'd never ever want to watch. Until I started seeing the shows I had previously ignored showing up again in my suggested feed. Well, they put a cap on the amount of records in the ignore list and it would push the oldest records in the ignore list off of the end after you ignored something like 100 or 200 shows. Basically deleting your preferences because of this cap with the more things you ignored. It sucked. I got so sick of seeing shows show in my suggested feed and sick of Amazon Prime in general, that I finally deleted Amazon Prime. The whole idea is when you remove everything you don't want, you're left with what you do.
 
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