Year when the lifestyle becomes fully accepted

What decade does zoo become accepted?

  • 2030's

    Votes: 8 9.9%
  • 2040's

    Votes: 2 2.5%
  • 2050's

    Votes: 7 8.6%
  • 2060's

    Votes: 7 8.6%
  • 2070's - 2090's

    Votes: 3 3.7%
  • Next Century

    Votes: 13 16.0%
  • Never

    Votes: 41 50.6%

  • Total voters
    81
In what decade do you think the lifestyle would become fully accepted? Personally, the 2050's.
I'm more curious as to what needs to happen for it to be accepted. Like I think the first step would be mainstream movies/tv shows that shed light in a positive way will be screened like Beauty and The Beast, but with more oomph 😉
 
never, even homosexuals are not fully accepted yet. what gives you the impression anything not bad is happening to zoos?

beauty and the beast gives you any pro-zoo vibes? oO
 
I think it'll happen. The fact that it happens all the time in cartoons now (I mean how many women has Brian Griffin fucked on Family Guy?) and no one seems all that shocked is an indication that public interest is growing and its normalizing, but realistically I think we're still a good 50+ years away from legality/acceptance.
I think with Brian Griffin it flies over people's heads because he is effectively human. He talks human, walks human so people just ignore his looks and think hes a person imo
 
The grim realization is that even if it becomes accepted in the future by some means (e.g. "scientists develop animal speech translator, dog recorded saying 'fuck me silly, master'"), in hindsight we still might be perceived as irresponsible dregs who performed unsafe unethical experiments with their animals, rather than the ones saying "I told you so"...
 
The grim realization is that even if it becomes accepted in the future by some means (e.g. "scientists develop animal speech translator, dog recorded saying 'fuck me silly, master'"), in hindsight we still might be perceived as irresponsible dregs who performed unsafe unethical experiments with their animals, rather than the ones saying "I told you so"...
That's it!!! Thats the fucking solution right there! Dug collars for every dog :D.

If that where to happen though.... They would probably take over the world, lol!
 
That's it!!! Thats the fucking solution right there! Dug collars for every dog :D.

If that where to happen though.... They would probably take over the world, lol!
I can only imagine the things my little mare would be saying, most likely something like "where's the food, why isn't the food here" 🤣
 
Likely never. The only slim chance we might have is scientific and peer review publications that demonstrate to the public what we've, as zoophiles, already known to be true all along. Which is that not all sex involving animals is necessarily rape and against the animals will at all. Even then, we won't be "fully accepted" as those that are zoos or wish to understand zoophilia will always be outnumbered by those that detest bestiality and zoophilia as a whole. The only thing we could hope for is the decriminalization of bestiality (even this is likely wishful thinking on my part.) But that will not be in my lifetime, nor realistically in the next 3 centuries.

There's still countries now where homosexual sex will land you in prison, and that's sex involving two humans capable of telling other people that they wish to be in such a relationship with one another.
 
In what decade do you think the lifestyle would become fully accepted? Personally, the 2050's.
I'm more curious as to what needs to happen for it to be accepted. Like I think the first step would be mainstream movies/tv shows that shed light in a positive way will be screened like Beauty and The Beast, but with more oomph 😉
I am more interested in the short-term goals that we can realistically reach.

First, we need to affirm that we do have the political freedom to express our point-of-view and to defend our own natural interests. This is harder than most people think. You would be shocked at how many people, including people in positions of authority, would piss on the Constitution just because they don't like you. In reality, there is no real substitute for proving that you know how to stand up for yourself in those kinds of situations. We're working on bringing together a strong enough organization to make good on such a bluff, but there is a lot of boring work involved. If you are not the kind of person that would enjoy making out a budget or helping to settle stupid quarrels between trustees, then you wouldn't like it. If you care enough in order to help with that kind of shit, then stay involved, and keep making friends: you might get your chance.

As far as "full acceptance," I say, the better nearer-term goal would be to get accepted within key niche communities, and it would also be very useful to develop good relations with authorities in certain cities. Think about it realistically: would you rather spend half a century saying "It would be great if the whole world accepted us!" or would you rather have a non-zero chance of being able to move to, for a totally random example, Adams, Massachusetts, knowing that if you tell your doctor that you had sex with your dog, they would have a realistic idea of how this affected your health because they already had other zoos in their care, and the supervisor at your place of work openly wore a zeta pendant? What matters to you, in your world that you interact with every day, is that you have a good quality of life and feel comfortable stepping out your door holding your head up high. That is stuff you can and should aspire to working on not only within your own lifetime but with a sense of urgency. You have the capacity to be a very good person, and having a good life, where you can hold your head up high, is something that you should fight for.

This is all stuff that takes time, patience, tact, and finesse. I earnestly suggest getting to know zoos that have already made some small amount of progress on these kinds of goals, and follow their lead. If you find out about a community where you can be open about your zoo pride, then what you do is find the other zoos in that community, and do exactly what they do. Listen to the advice of their leaders, and if you run into any situation where you don't know what to do, ask for help. Damn right, we're getting organized.

I wouldn't be talking about a realistic portrait of our intermediate goals--and the degree of difficulty in reaching those intermediate goals--if I didn't genuinely believe it was all worth doing. Yes, I think it would be wonderful to be able to travel and to work anywhere in the whole entire world, without exception, as someone who was openly zooey. I would love to be in a situation where the human rights committee at the UN talked occasionally about ways to make our lives better. When human beings expand their presence into space, I want us to leave this creepy voodoo-dancing tribal taboo shit on the planet where we evolved ourselves out of it. Let's leave anti-zoo persecution in the same place where we left smashing a woman's head with a rock for being a victim of rape. We're eventually going to get there, and the path there is going to be watering the seedlings that are already taking root.

Just keep one thing in mind: if you are a zoo prider, then you are going to get just as much hate from your fellow zoos as you get from anybody else. I know this sounds strange, but you have to understand that zoos are human beings. Human beings, whether they are zoos or not, can sometimes be troublesome. You will run into zoos that try to judge you for your zoo pride. They might judge you for the fact that you think that the human race is good enough to eventually see that we belong. Some of them might make fun of you. You will get heckling from your fellow zoos, and for the same reasons why they are a little bit like you, they will also know the places on you that hurt the most. The problem is that you are right: zoos are normal people, and that comes with all of the concomitant problems. If you are a zoo prider, then you still have to fight for acceptance among zoos, and that is really not any easier than fighting for acceptance among any other kinds of people.

Well, the way you fight for acceptance among zoos is still the same. You find places where people that think like you are already winning, and you invest your efforts there. You find people that are doing something like what you want to do, and you follow their lead. Be willing to accept mentoring, and learn how to take feedback from people that want you to succeed. Zoo pride is happening, and we are getting stronger every day.
 
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