Northwestern Zoophilia Study & Survey - Phase 2

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raks said:
Yeah, I didn't like it either. Too many questions about transgender and self identification. Not enough questions about zoo related content. It's like the survey cared less about your zoo desires, but instead wanted to know more if you get off on cross dressing or pretending to be a something else you were not.
Where were the questions linking sexual desire towards animals to other life forming events (e.g. abuse, neglect, where you grew up, popularity growing up, etc.)
All this survey is going to do is link zoophilia to whether or not you are transgender or a furry or act like a dog in public.
I was hoping the zoo related questions would pick up again towards the end but it was an epic let down.
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I have to agree with this and your other comment that the researchers preconceptions have tainted the research by only asking questions about fetishes, the research will lump Zoophilia in with fetishes. There was only one or two questions where the answer was "it is normal" appeared. This gives the questionnaire a serious lean towards the writers preconceived ideas.

There is a large percentage of the Zooville residents that do fit the questionnaire by combining Gay behaviour and Zoo tendencies also from the BF days there was a lot of cross dressing people. So the questionnaire is not wrong in its design but it really only looks at part of zoophilia.

The assumption is that you have to have a kink to be a Zoophile rather than thinking that Zoophiles can be normal or can also have kinks like anyone else.
 
raks said:
I didn't overlook the truth. And I never stated I didn't want the correlation identified.
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It was a hypothetical 'you'

raks said:
I am all for identifying correlations.
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So it's not that you don't like questions, you just wanted more questions and I have no comment on that; you are probably right.

raks said:
The problem is, only a few correlations can be determined from the survey:
1. How many zoos are transgender (half of the survey questions focused on the this topic!)
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Well people do get tunnel visioned sometimes... I honestly hope the left doesn't pick zoos to be the golden victims of a decade. It's a bad rollercoaster to be on.

raks said:
2. How many zoos are furries
3. How many zoos are into cub-porn
4. How many zoos have reality detachment (very good questions actually)
5. What is the distribution of abuse/consent tolerance among zoos (another great set of questions - just not enough)
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All seem pretty reasonable to me. Especially #2 from an objective standpoint one would suspect correlation.

raks said:
You said it yourself, you didn't participate, so why so eager to come the survey's front line of defense?
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I'm not defending the survey. I am just saying that whether it helps the zoo community should not be the standard by which a survey is judged.

raks said:
Just because someone is a professor, doesn't make them smart.
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I'll second that.
 
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Had no problem getting in on an Android tablet using Chrome! - - I found it interesting.
I just responded to all their questions as someone who sees interspecies sex as Not "kink" but "consent encouraged"!
THERE! - - - Shouldn't take 20-25 minutes to say that!
Good luck with your results people!
 
ElJopende16 said:
I finished the survey in Brave browser.
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dddav47 said:
Had no problem getting in on an Android tablet using Chrome!
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I don't think you guys who are posting about what worked for you are getting the point. TOR end nodes are being denied, it's not just a browser glitch. For someone like me, who is not comfortable handing my IP to anyone and then doing things that identify me as zoo there isn't really another option.
 
This was a really extensive survey, let´s see what comes next, it felt a bit boring because of the speed in which the survey was loading the next question.
 
I mostly found it boring and ran off on what felt like irrelevant tangents. It's a fairly poorly done survey in my opinion. I am primarily disappointed we didn't get to review or suggest question changes before the survey was ready to fix some of the issues with it.
 
ADreamOfLiberty said:
I don't think you guys who are posting about what worked for you are getting the point. TOR end nodes are being denied, it's not just a browser glitch. For someone like me, who is not comfortable handing my IP to anyone and then doing things that identify me as zoo there isn't really another option.
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If you can't find an exit node that works PM and I'll set you up with a safe alternative.
 
Does anyone know if a copy of the final study will be shared with this site? And please pardon me if this question had already be asked and answered.
 
I took it quite interisting. Would love to see how many people now days. Since the quarantine took hold lol jus wondering
 
i filled it in, the abrupt change into "are you trans/crossdresser?" was kinda weird. i kinda expected more consent-related questions...
 
Vicky said:
Im not sure about all the question about cartoons and what they have to do with it. questions are nothing like what I expected and not sure it is all about a zoo lifestyle. or very in depth to get an understanding
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I imagine they're evaluating overlap between zoo and "furry" identity. Same reason they asked the questions regarding gender identity, non-zoo sexual interests, whether you consider yourself a human being and how you feel about that, and the possibility of Autism Spectrum Disorder. As the survey stated, this is a very under-researched population, so they're looking for commonalities between zoo and other atypical sexual identities.

RexAndMe said:
I still don't see how a multiple choice survey tells you more than actual stories of experience. That's why I thought they wanted ACTUAL people with experience, and people Who are well known in the zoo community.
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A heap of anecdotes isn't useful in the early phases of researching a population. As the landing page of the survey established, the researchers are reaching out to address under-researched populations. Anecdotal data is only useful when it is very strictly guided and presented with a very specific research goal. The objective of this survey was seemingly to investigate the possible relationships between zoophilia and other sexual identities/expressions. Giving users a big text box and saying "tell us about your zoo experience" would not achieve this, nor would it provide any particularly meaningful objective data. At most the researchers could sift through and count up the occurrence of certain commonalities, but there's no guarantee those applicable commonalities would be represented with such an open format. People would omit things, determine this or that unimportant, or fill the box with what they believe the researchers wish to hear. In order to accurately root out useful commonalities to guide further research, the researchers would have to ask a bunch of very narrow, specific questions, at which point you circle around to multiple choice.
 
Vicky said:
Im not sure about all the question about cartoons and what they have to do with it. questions are nothing like what I expected and not sure it is all about a zoo lifestyle. or very in depth to get an understanding
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It's trying to see how much Furry fandom and zoophilia are related. Unless the exact same survey is being offered to Furries in general, the sampling mechanism invalidates the survery. There was another similar one done with similar sampling issues that a group who were anti-zoo was using to "prove" there are very few zoos in Furry fandom.
 
AML said:
I imagine they're evaluating overlap between zoo and "furry" identity. Same reason they asked the questions regarding gender identity, non-zoo sexual interests, whether you consider yourself a human being and how you feel about that, and the possibility of Autism Spectrum Disorder. As the survey stated, this is a very under-researched population, so they're looking for commonalities between zoo and other atypical sexual identities.



A heap of anecdotes isn't useful in the early phases of researching a population. As the landing page of the survey established, the researchers are reaching out to address under-researched populations. Anecdotal data is only useful when it is very strictly guided and presented with a very specific research goal. The objective of this survey was seemingly to investigate the possible relationships between zoophilia and other sexual identities/expressions. Giving users a big text box and saying "tell us about your zoo experience" would not achieve this, nor would it provide any particularly meaningful objective data. At most the researchers could sift through and count up the occurrence of certain commonalities, but there's no guarantee those applicable commonalities would be represented with such an open format. People would omit things, determine this or that unimportant, or fill the box with what they believe the researchers wish to hear. In order to accurately root out useful commonalities to guide further research, the researchers would have to ask a bunch of very narrow, specific questions, at which point you circle around to multiple choice.
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Actually, the best way is to ask multiple questions that frame the same issue from different perspectives like "How much do you agree with this statement: I prefer men to women." and then later in the survey ask "How much do you agree with this statement: I prefer women to men." and compare the responses.

The bigger issue is the sampling mechanism. Online participants are almost never good sampling sets and in this case (and I know this seems counterintuitive) using the members of a zooboard as a sample is very skewed. Zoos make up a portion of furs and furs make up a portion of zoos and no one seems to know what the ratio is., In the survey I mentioned in my other comment, the problem with it was that the zoos didn't even consider participating once they realized what it was about, which caused a population participation estimate of less than half the best estimates for the entire American population (<3% vs ~7%) which you have to admit seems fairly unlikely. This was actually the outcome the group running the survey wanted as their goal was to 'prove' that Furs are not Zoos.

I'm not suggesting the creators of this survey have that goal... but the moment Furry was mentioned, I stopped the survey. As someone in both groups, I already have to deal with being excluded and ostracized by both groups and by the 'norms' as well. Pass.
 
BeastLoverCA said:
It's trying to see how much Furry fandom and zoophilia are related. Unless the exact same survey is being offered to Furries in general, the sampling mechanism invalidates the survery. There was another similar one done with similar sampling issues that a group who were anti-zoo was using to "prove" there are very few zoos in Furry fandom.
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BeastLoverCA said:
The bigger issue is the sampling mechanism. Online participants are almost never good sampling sets and in this case (and I know this seems counterintuitive) using the members of a zooboard as a sample is very skewed. Zoos make up a portion of furs and furs make up a portion of zoos and no one seems to know what the ratio is., In the survey I mentioned in my other comment, the problem with it was that the zoos didn't even consider participating once they realized what it was about, which caused a population participation estimate of less than half the best estimates for the entire American population (<3% vs ~7%) which you have to admit seems fairly unlikely. This was actually the outcome the group running the survey wanted as their goal was to 'prove' that Furs are not Zoos.
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The survey is intended for zoos, not furries. If someone happens to be zoo and also furry, or also transgender, or also anything else, cool, that's useful context for zoos--not furries, or transgender people, or anybody else. Finding the degree of overlap is out of scope for this research.
BeastLoverCA said:
I'm not suggesting the creators of this survey have that goal... but the moment Furry was mentioned, I stopped the survey. As someone in both groups, I already have to deal with being excluded and ostracized by both groups and by the 'norms' as well. Pass.
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I encourage you to finish the survey. It is anonymous and presents no threat to your personal safety and is a chance to be better understood for what we are. The sort of people who take exception to you being both furry and a zoo are likely to take exception to this research per se, not your personal involvement, and those people can fuck all the way off.

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Dude you forgot to take your meds.

Loveknotted said:
Lol funny i tried to participate in phase 1 lol never will i again considering the only way you can is if mods like you were a couple and content creators open lifestyle and yet still got turned away its not a study its simply favoritism writing involving skewed statistics due to holier than thou attitudes
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Vicky said:
Im not sure about all the question about cartoons and what they have to do with it. questions are nothing like what I expected and not sure it is all about a zoo lifestyle. or very in depth to get an understanding
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IMO: Some questions are about furzoophiles. Aka furries that are zoophiles. Furries that are preferentially aroused by cartoon of animals in sexual settings. And that may only be aroused by the cartoon version and not the real life animal versions.

The other questions have to do with otherkin or theriantrophy, which most humans aren't.
 
Is it wrong that I am sporting a raging semi and am only on page 8! It's really awesome to see some real research being done for our demographic! finishing soonish!
 
Most questions seemed like they think we picture ourselves as an animal while with an animal.... But although I'm incredibly turned on watching a stallion mount a mare I don't really imagine being the stallion I picture myself burying my face in the aftermath then mounting her myself.
 
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