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If you could make anything become law tomorrow...

Too many to list fully, but in order of what I consider most important to least:

#0: Being a member of the legislature is a term of service to the country, not a career. Any one person may serve a maximum of two terms as a member of either the house OR senate (but not both), and two terms as president if they're able to get elected to that office. After their two terms in office have been served, they return to being "regular citizens", and are explicitly forbidden to participate in any form of lobbying or other political functions other than voting in elections, assuming they remain eligible to do so.

(Do I really need to explain the why?)

#1: Every proposal for a law shall be limited to EXACTLY one topic, occupy no more than 4 double-spaced typewritten pages, be written using the english language at a level that any 5th grade student is capable of reading and understanding without resorting to a lawyer for an explanation, and will not be considered further until the person bringing it forward provides proof that a majority of the population s/he was elected by has requested such a law.

(This will clobber the vanity laws that it seems customary for every politi-critter to propose, as well as killing off the legalese thats' included so often to make a law "mean wahtever we want it to mean".)

#2: Every law that imposes a penalty of any kind upon a citizen shall be interpreted in the manner that is most favorable to the citizen.

(The reasoning should be self-evident)

#3: Every law shall sunset (automatically become null and void) no more than 5 years after becoming law. Reinstating any law which has been nullified by the sunset provision is acceptable, provided it goes through EXACTLY the same "propose, debate, vote in each house of the legislature, be presented to the current president for signature or veto, etc" process it initially had to go through in order to become law in the first place.

(Clobber the "deadwood", and "age out" bad laws automatically. Good laws that everyone (or at least, a true majority) supports will be re-enacted easily. Bad/controversial/useless laws will "fall off the vine and rot", rather than being "forever" and getting "weaponized".)

#4: The Interstate Commerce Clause of the constitution IS NOT a catch-all justification for a law that would be unconstitutional if said clause did not exist. Just because something may cross state lines at some time during its existence is not grounds for the feds to try to regulate it via the commerce clause.

(The Commerce Clause is, and has been for at least 3-4 decades, actually probably much longer than that, being SEVERELY abused for everything from the most trivial crap, to attempts to bypass enumerated rights guaranteed by the constitution.)
 
UR20Z said:
Too many to list fully, but in order of what I consider most important to least:

#0: Being a member of the legislature is a term of service to the country, not a career. Any one person may serve a maximum of two terms as a member of either the house OR senate (but not both), and two terms as president if they're able to get elected to that office. After their two terms in office have been served, they return to being "regular citizens", and are explicitly forbidden to participate in any form of lobbying or other political functions other than voting in elections, assuming they remain eligible to do so.

(Do I really need to explain the why?)

#1: Every proposal for a law shall be limited to EXACTLY one topic, occupy no more than 4 double-spaced typewritten pages, be written using the english language at a level that any 5th grade student is capable of reading and understanding without resorting to a lawyer for an explanation, and will not be considered further until the person bringing it forward provides proof that a majority of the population s/he was elected by has requested such a law.

(This will clobber the vanity laws that it seems customary for every politi-critter to propose, as well as killing off the legalese thats' included so often to make a law "mean wahtever we want it to mean".)

#2: Every law that imposes a penalty of any kind upon a citizen shall be interpreted in the manner that is most favorable to the citizen.

(The reasoning should be self-evident)

#3: Every law shall sunset (automatically become null and void) no more than 5 years after becoming law. Reinstating any law which has been nullified by the sunset provision is acceptable, provided it goes through EXACTLY the same "propose, debate, vote in each house of the legislature, be presented to the current president for signature or veto, etc" process it initially had to go through in order to become law in the first place.

(Clobber the "deadwood", and "age out" bad laws automatically. Good laws that everyone (or at least, a true majority) supports will be re-enacted easily. Bad/controversial/useless laws will "fall off the vine and rot", rather than being "forever" and getting "weaponized".)

#4: The Interstate Commerce Clause of the constitution IS NOT a catch-all justification for a law that would be unconstitutional if said clause did not exist. Just because something may cross state lines at some time during its existence is not grounds for the feds to try to regulate it via the commerce clause.

(The Commerce Clause is, and has been for at least 3-4 decades, actually probably much longer than that, being SEVERELY abused for everything from the most trivial crap, to attempts to bypass enumerated rights guaranteed by the constitution.)
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ANd of course, I got rolling, and forgot the single most important one after term limits on politi-critters:

#0.5: Corporations ARE EXPLICITLY NOT PEOPLE, have NO HUMAN RIGHTS IN ANY FORM, and are specifically prohibited from *ANY* political activity of any kind, under any cicrumstances. They do not get to vote, they are prohibited from any fundraising activities, they are not permitted to make political contributions to any candidate in any form or under any name, and are subject to summary disbandment and/or confiscation and redistribution of assets for any violation of this law.
 
Instaban for posting port where someone sucks a dog like a human or does dildogging. And hang them by the balls. Because lets face it, most of this crap is posted by men.
 
pes said:
Instaban for posting port where someone sucks a dog like a human or does dildogging. And hang them by the balls. Because lets face it, most of this crap is posted by men.
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And of it's posted by a woman do we hang her from her tits or her clit? ?
 
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Politican should be a "lower average paid" job by law and they should be forbidden to have any income on the side.

So they are part of the lower income and stay connected with the poor paid people. So only altroistic people with an actual passion for making the world a better place choose that path in life, and not people who are greedy and korrupt.
 
Schuppentier said:
Politican should be a "lower average paid" job by law and they should be forbidden to have any income on the side.

So they are part of the lower income and stay connected with the poor paid people. So only altroistic people with an actual passion for making the world a better place choose that path in life, and not people who are greedy and korrupt.
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I think I would add term limits to all politicians. And after there term they can not run. If there spouse runs they still have no power.
 
Equitatus6 said:
If you did that then nobody would want to be a politician.
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There would be people. There are alot of very badly paid jobs, still there are people doing it, even tho they could have easier, and better paid jobs. But they have a passion for it.

Me for example. Iam a foreman carpenter on construction sites. I know I have the lowest pay per hour in the company I work. I could have a job where iam not away from home the whole week, where I would get atleast 25% more and had less work.
But I realy like my job, and I would miss seeing a new site every week,i would miss driving into neighbor country's and working there.
I don't care that I get 20% less than even my unlearned coworkers, even tho I have a leading position. It's still enough so I don't care.

There are already local people in community's that basicly do political jobs, and they do it for free. Because it's their passion, and they whant to make things better, even when it's only affecting local population.
 
UR20Z said:
You say that as though it were a bad thing...
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Actually, @Equitatus6 , I'm dead serious. Political office (at least here in the USA) has NEVER been intended to be a lifelong, high-income thing. It's been, since the country was founded, a *SERVICE* to the country - not a way to get rich and famous.

Unfortunately, the shittiest parts of society (AKA "Lawyers" - the larval form of politicians) have managed to figure out a way to be able to give themselves raises, regardless of how piss-poor their performance as public servants happens to be.

I've long been in favor of the idea that on the day you're sworn into an elected office, *EVERY* asset you have is frozen for the duration of your tenure in that office, and you exist on an "allowance" equal to 2/3 of the average income in the political subdivision you're supposedly serving. On top of that, you MUST account for *EVERY PENNY* of that "allowance", and if you are found to have spent *ANYTHING* more than that amount, it is proof positive that you are cheating the system, and you go to prison for a year for every dollar you spent that wasn't part of your allowance.

Being a politician should be a "term of service", not an opportunity to collect boatloads of money.

Term limits, absolutely (and intentionally) draconian, zero-tolerance accounting standards, removing any "after office" benefits... Oh, and lets not forget this one: You want "security"? That's fine - YOU pay for it, out of your allowance - or you do what your constituents have to do: Go without. ALL of these are good ideas that will help to keep honest politicians (is there even any such thing??? I have my doubts...) honest. Make it so that the kind of shitbags - the Pelosis, the Feinsteins, and all the rest of the "fat cat" career politicians that think they can get rich and powerful don't want the job, and only those who actually care enough to try to do the job correctly will be interested in having it. Which is as the founders intended things to be.

A term in congress was intended to be "in for a while to handle the country's business, then out", and now you're just Joe citizen again, returning to your REAL work of making ends meet/feeding yourself/etc. The idea that someone can make an entire career out of being a congress-critter is bullshit. ESPECIALLY when they start getting the idea "I'm Joe Congressman! I"m special! Bow to me, you peons!" that so many of them seem to be prone to. Fact: You're no different than the rest of us schlubs on the street you were sent to congress to represent. You work for us, not the other way around. And you serve at our pleasure, to be removed/replaced at our whim.

Unfortunately, far too many of them have somehow gotten the idea that they're immune to all discipline just because of that cute little lapel pin that lets them through the door of the house chambers.
 
UR20Z said:
Actually, @Equitatus6 , I'm dead serious. Political office (at least here in the USA) has NEVER been intended to be a lifelong, high-income thing. It's been, since the country was founded, a *SERVICE* to the country - not a way to get rich and famous.
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Oh, I know you're serious. That emoji was a laugh of agreement. Trust me, I hate the fact that it's possible for our politicians to become rich off of their "service" to the country.

>inb4 this thread gets Dumpster Fire'd
 
Schuppentier said:
Politican should be a "lower average paid" job by law and they should be forbidden to have any income on the side.

So they are part of the lower income and stay connected with the poor paid people. So only altroistic people with an actual passion for making the world a better place choose that path in life, and not people who are greedy and korrupt.
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Their salary should be pegged to the poverty line. Or at least they have to donate 50% of their salary to charity.
 
For every rule, there becomes not only a loophole to exploit it, but also an instant cottage industry dedicated to identifying, building, and supporting those loopholes. And if that weren't enough, there's also those who uniquely hold themselves above the law.

Dumpster fire, here we go!
 
Puhp said:
For every rule, there becomes not only a loophole to exploit it, but also an instant cottage industry dedicated to identifying, building, and supporting those loopholes. And if that weren't enough, there's also those who uniquely hold themselves above the law.

Dumpster fire, here we go!
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Puhp said:
For every rule, there becomes not only a loophole to exploit it, but also an instant cottage industry dedicated to identifying, building, and supporting those loopholes. And if that weren't enough, there's also those who uniquely hold themselves above the law.

Dumpster fire, here we go!
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Laws are for suckers :p

As long as you aren't hurting, cheating or stealing from anyone, what is the issue? Who cares if someone smokes weed or fucks dogs? I like to follow the Golden Rule. We have way too many prisoners in this country.
 
UR20Z said:
Actually, @Equitatus6 , I'm dead serious. Political office (at least here in the USA) has NEVER been intended to be a lifelong, high-income thing. It's been, since the country was founded, a *SERVICE* to the country - not a way to get rich and famous.

Unfortunately, the shittiest parts of society (AKA "Lawyers" - the larval form of politicians) have managed to figure out a way to be able to give themselves raises, regardless of how piss-poor their performance as public servants happens to be.

I've long been in favor of the idea that on the day you're sworn into an elected office, *EVERY* asset you have is frozen for the duration of your tenure in that office, and you exist on an "allowance" equal to 2/3 of the average income in the political subdivision you're supposedly serving. On top of that, you MUST account for *EVERY PENNY* of that "allowance", and if you are found to have spent *ANYTHING* more than that amount, it is proof positive that you are cheating the system, and you go to prison for a year for every dollar you spent that wasn't part of your allowance.

Being a politician should be a "term of service", not an opportunity to collect boatloads of money.

Term limits, absolutely (and intentionally) draconian, zero-tolerance accounting standards, removing any "after office" benefits... Oh, and lets not forget this one: You want "security"? That's fine - YOU pay for it, out of your allowance - or you do what your constituents have to do: Go without. ALL of these are good ideas that will help to keep honest politicians (is there even any such thing??? I have my doubts...) honest. Make it so that the kind of shitbags - the Pelosis, the Feinsteins, and all the rest of the "fat cat" career politicians that think they can get rich and powerful don't want the job, and only those who actually care enough to try to do the job correctly will be interested in having it. Which is as the founders intended things to be.

A term in congress was intended to be "in for a while to handle the country's business, then out", and now you're just Joe citizen again, returning to your REAL work of making ends meet/feeding yourself/etc. The idea that someone can make an entire career out of being a congress-critter is bullshit. ESPECIALLY when they start getting the idea "I'm Joe Congressman! I"m special! Bow to me, you peons!" that so many of them seem to be prone to. Fact: You're no different than the rest of us schlubs on the street you were sent to congress to represent. You work for us, not the other way around. And you serve at our pleasure, to be removed/replaced at our whim.

Unfortunately, far too many of them have somehow gotten the idea that they're immune to all discipline just because of that cute little lapel pin that lets them through the door of the house chambers.
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What if they have sensitive matters that could involve National Security? Maybe that's why they have bodyguards after their term spent.

Although yes after job life i agree they should be a regular again instead of a ohhhh wow superstar.
 
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