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Gun Ownership - NO politics, just "Do you or do you not own a firearm"

Do you legally own a firearm of any kind?

  • I own one or more firearms, and am an American

    Votes: 443 55.5%

  • I own NO firearms, and am an American

    Votes: 125 15.7%

  • I own one or more firearms, and am other than American (Feel free to specify Citizenship)

    Votes: 82 10.3%

  • I own NO firearms, and am other than American (Feel free to specify Citizenship)

    Votes: 120 15.0%

  • I am not legally able to own a firearm (Feel free to specify reason)

    Votes: 28 3.5%
  • Total voters
    798
CrossedDestiny said:
If you speed load like i was saying, you never have to rack the slide, because you are reloading while there is still a round in the chamber. hence, no need to pull back the slide, it saves time, saves the extra motion, and keeps you on target.
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yeah just sometimes when your swapping rounds with someone it can be easy to loose track of how many you fired. ive pulled the trigger more than once to just a click. reloading with both hands is fast but your right when seconds count if you can keep track it is best to do so.
 
Animale said:
yeah just sometimes when your swapping rounds with someone it can be easy to loose track of how many you fired. ive pulled the trigger more than once to just a click. reloading with both hands is fast but your right when seconds count if you can keep track it is best to do so.
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if you loose count, it means you need more range time and practice, shooting should never be a nervous experience, if it is, you will miss your target, and make mistakes, you need to practice so that shooting at a target is as common to you as buttering a slice of bread, so you don't flinch, don't blink or close your eyes, don't jump from the sound. all of that messed up your aim, and leads to accidents and mistakes, which makes you vulnerable in a fire fight. Even if your just plinking at cans, always count, always try to stop on your last round to reload, make it so much a habit that you do it automatically without even thinking about it. Even scold yourself if you mess up and have to re-rack the slide back, it works!

Believe it or not your subconscious mind will learn the process, and after a while, you will realize your doing it automatically, as if by muscle memory, and such.
 
CrossedDestiny said:
if you loose count, it means you need more range time and practice, shooting should never be a nervous experience, if it is, you will miss your target, and make mistakes, you need to practice so that shooting at a target is as common to you as buttering a slice of bread, so you don't flinch, don't blink or close your eyes, don't jump from the sound. all of that messed up your aim, and leads to accidents and mistakes, which makes you vulnerable in a fire fight. Even if your just plinking at cans, always count, always try to stop on your last round to reload, make it so much a habit that you do it automatically without even thinking about it.
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ive spent countless hours at the range. but its hard not to let that adrenaline hit and get single focused when the rounds start plinking off your helmet and yes that happened. out on patrol stop to get some chow pretty decent cover then ping right off the helmet. dont know where it came from. how many there are but that Kevlar saved my life. Combat is rarely a calm and collective time. I dont care how much range time you have. bullets start hitting the wall around you you start shooting first and start thinking later. To busy thinking about keeping the people with you alive.
 
Animale said:
ive spent countless hours at the range. but its hard not to let that adrenaline hit and get single focused when the rounds start plinking off your helmet and yes that happened. out on patrol stop to get some chow pretty decent cover then ping right off the helmet. dont know where it came from. how many there are. Combat is rarely a calm and collective time. I dont care how much range time you have. bullets start hitting the wall around you you start shooting first and start thinking later. To busy thinking about keeping the people with you alive.
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Not sure if they do it in all branches, but that's why they do the thing, i forget what its called, but where they do live fire all around you, and then have like 10 people suddenly come up screaming 10 different orders, and you have to focus only on the one from the correct person, without loosing your cool, or freezing up. To simulate the stress of such an environment where everything is going off the rails, and test your ability to maintain control and focus.
 
UR20Z said:
AR-15 semi-automatic rifle! A genuine (according to a rather brain-dead law - but I said no politics) Assault Weapon!
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lol

Yes, but is it though?

Just because it looks all scary with all that plastic shit they design it with. As this is NOT a place for the politics, I'll just say that I think it's HIGH TIME we arrive at a STANDARD for what constitutes an "Assault Rifle" that ISN'T ooooooo, that looks scary.

One consisting of bullet weight, muzzle velocity, rate of fire, etc.

Not, oh, fuck, that looks scary.
 
CrossedDestiny said:
Not sure if they do it in all branches, but that's why they do the thing, i forget what its called, but where they do live fire all around you, and then have like 10 people suddenly come up screaming 10 different orders, and you have to focus only on the one from the correct person, without loosing your cool, or freezing up. To simulate the stress of such an environment where everything is going off the rails, and test your ability to maintain control and focus.
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the live fire exercise. yes we do that. crawling under wire with explosions going over and tracer rounds zipping inches over your head. Its meant to de sensitize you. and it works to an extent but you know its not real. its just training and as long as you keep your head down your gonna be ok. the real world. the combat zones. thats an entirely different beast. its hard to explain to those who havent experienced it and honestly i wouldn't really want to. it takes a long time to come back from that if ever. but all the training is just that training. Things very rarely goes as planned. when its real and you see the guy next to you drop all that training goes right out the window. Instinct kicks in and overrides everything
 
Dogdaddy69 said:
lol

Yes, but is it though?

Just because it looks all scary with all that plastic shit they design it with. As this is NOT a place for the politics, I'll just say that I think it's HIGH TIME we arrive at a STANDARD for what constitutes an "Assault Rifle" that ISN'T ooooooo, that looks scary.

One consisting of bullet weight, muzzle velocity, rate of fire, etc.

Not, oh, fuck, that looks scary.
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Ive ALWAYS hated that term. " Assault rifle" theres no such friggin thing. Its no different than the semi auto grandpa uses to hunt with. just looks different. The way they call it an assault rifle would be like me attacking someone with a bat and calling it an assault bat. Its stupid. assault is a verb. its an action. its the person committing the assault not the tool, and thats all a gun is, a tool.
 
Dogdaddy69 said:
oh, fuck, that looks scary.
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So, a howitzer is an assault rifle.
As are:
- Rabid dogs
- Expired milk
- Hospital bills
- Karens

Damn, everything is an assault rifle xD

Animale said:
Ive ALWAYS hated that term. " Assault rifle" theres no such friggin thing. Its no different than the semi auto grandpa uses to hunt with. just looks different. The way they call it an assault rifle would be like me attacking someone with a bat and calling it an assault bat. Its stupid. assault is a verb. its an action. its the person committing the assault not the tool, and thats all a gun is, a tool.
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I think you're focusing on the word "Assault" too much there.
The point is that they need to define what qualifies as an "AR". With "AR" being a complete term.

Just like you don't need to quantify the "Cottage" in "Cottage Cheese", nor "Saint" In "Saint Bernard".

Sure, if you pick apart names like that, the individual components of the name may not make sense, but that's just... Eh, pedantic.

That said, the name "Assault Rifle" comes from the German "Sturmgewehr", which is just the name for the rifle's function... To "Sturm" (Assault) enemy positions.
 
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Animale said:
Ive ALWAYS hated that term. " Assault rifle" theres no such friggin thing. Its no different than the semi auto grandpa uses to hunt with. just looks different. The way they call it an assault rifle would be like me attacking someone with a bat and calling it an assault bat. Its stupid. assault is a verb. its an action. its the person committing the assault not the tool, and thats all a gun is, a tool.
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An assault rifle is typically defined as a weapon that is capable of firing more than one round per trigger pull. Meaning that it's capable of firing either full-auto, or in burst fire.

That's why I get irritated when something happens with a stock AR-15 and people sperg out calling it an assault rifle, because they're also under the (wrong) impression of what the "AR" in AR-15 stands for. They obviously think it stands for assault rifle, because they don't know that it actually stands for Armalite Rifle.
 
Bloit said:
So, a howitzer is an assault rifle.
As are:
- Rabid dogs
- Expired milk
- Hospital bills
- Karens

Damn, everything is an assault rifle xD


I think you're focusing on the word "Assault" too much there.
The point is that they need to define what qualifies as an "AR". With "AR" being a complete term.

Just like you don't need to quantify the "Cottage" in "Cottage Cheese", nor "Saint" In "Saint Bernard".

Sure, if you pick apart names like that, the individual components of the name may not make sense, but that's just... Eh, pedantic.
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Yes, in my opinion, the term itself is arbitrary as fuck and completely subjective. Means different shit to literally everyone. Thus, makes no damn sense.
 
iwanttobeabottom said:
An assault rifle is typically defined as a weapon that is capable of firing more than one round per trigger pull. Meaning that it's capable of firing either full-auto, or in burst fire.

That's why I get irritated when something happens with a stock AR-15 and people sperg out calling it an assault rifle, because they're also under the (wrong) impression of what the "AR" in AR-15 stands for. They obviously think it stands for assault rifle, because they don't know that it actually stands for Armalite Rifle.
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lol

YES. EXACTLY.

Big scary hopped up 22.
 
Bloit said:
I think you're focusing on the word "Assault" too much there.
The point is that they need to define what qualifies as an "AR". With "AR" being a complete term.

Just like you don't need to quantify the "Cottage" in "Cottage Cheese", nor "Saint" In "Saint Bernard".

Sure, if you pick apart names like that, the individual components of the name may not make sense, but that's just... Eh, pedantic.
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you know AR doesnt stand for assault rifle right? AR is the brand Armalite rifle. the company that designed the rifle and later sold to colt.
 
Animale said:
you know AR doesnt stand for assault rifle right? AR is the brand Armalite rifle. the company that designed the rifle and later sold to colt.
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I didn't say AR-15. I know that that "A" stands for Armalite.
I used "AR" as abbreviation, twice.

That doesn't invalidate my point that you're focusing too much on a part of the name for a category of weapon.
Pedantics about "Assault" aren't going to win any discussion about what a category of weapon should be called.

Dogdaddy had a much better point about just setting a standard based on weapon specs
 
The entire argument about the term assault rifle, and the 3/4 of people on the left who truly believe AR stands for the same phrase, are 4/5ths of the problem... M16 does not have those two evil AR letters in it, fine, ban the AR15, and un-ban, the M16 and M4, problem solved.
 
Bloit said:
How about the M134? That ain't an assault rifle, sooo.....
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you have a point, it would look nice on the roof of my F350, and it would be so much fun if that guy who shot me ever came back to try again, neighbors might wonder what the very loud hum is though. bvvvvvvvvvvvvtttt
 
K_9River_rat said:
Eh.. fuck it... as long as it doesn't have "AR" in the name, it's good!!! M2 anyone? Hell.. M1 Abrams!
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M1 AbRams.

CrossedDestiny said:
you have a point, it would look nice on the roof of my F350, and it would be so much fun if that guy who shot me ever came back to try again, neighbors might wonder what the very loud hum is though. bvvvvvvvvvvvvtttt
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The only way I'd buy a Prius.

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CrossedDestiny said:
The entire argument about the term assault rifle, and the 3/4 of people on the left who truly believe AR stands for the same phrase, are 4/5ths of the problem... M16 does not have those two evil AR letters in it, fine, ban the AR15, and un-ban, the M16 and M4, problem solved.
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lets gooooo Ill trade in all my ar for one M4 you got a deal brotha lol
 
Bloit said:
How about the M134? That ain't an assault rifle, sooo.....
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I’m pretty sure the M134 is capable of firing a little more than a few rounds in a row, so that might not pass, lol
 
Bloit said:
I didn't say AR-15. I know that that "A" stands for Armalite.
I used "AR" as abbreviation, twice.

That doesn't invalidate my point that you're focusing too much on a part of the name for a category of weapon.
Pedantics about "Assault" aren't going to win any discussion about what a category of weapon should be called.

Dogdaddy had a much better point about just setting a standard based on weapon specs
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ohh ok sorry bro. Im just so used to people going to that argument lol. I dont think Im overly focused since all the bills are about Assault weapon this and assault weapon that and all anyone hears is assault. there is no such thing as an assault anything you cant hold an assault you commit an assault. I might MIGHT concede that automatic weapons are " assault weapons" but those have been outlawed since the 80s, to get one is super friggin expensive and the background checks are intense not to mention the cost of the stamp. sooo how are they going to ban weapons that have been banned for 40+ years. the problem is if we let them get away with it now that just opens the door for them to classify more and more things as "assault weapons"
 
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