Dealing with reposts

pes

pes

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Recently we have received some reports of content that has been already posted before. Those were deleted.
I would like to bring this up to have a discussion about it. @FloofyNewfie @Oldman @thebestguy @Jack3x There is not a simple solution to it.

Posting content:
Please consider that there is an incredibly high chance that any video that you have not made yourself has been posted before. This is especially true for anything that looks more than a couple of months old and/or is found on a publicly accessible porn site.
The porn section has 9488 threads, before you post your likely old and already posted video, go and spend some time watching porn in the porn section and begin on the last page.

If we are to remove reposted content, then:
1. Which copy should be removed, the old one or the new one?
2. If there already is a meaningful discussion under it (not just nice, hot, more...), should the thread be deleted as well?
3. Sometimes a video/photo is posted as a reaction for example "What do you like the most?" (a bunch of stuff that has been seen before)

How to report reposts:
Please do your best to report both or all occurrences of the content, for example:
This is a repost:
New thread:
Old thread:

If you can, also report the other thread with the same video. It is incredibly difficult to find where the other video has been posted before. Porn threads do not have the most distinct names, so it is nearly impossible to remember where what is or search for it. If you know where it is, put it in the report. Mods can not remember every single piece of porn posted over the lifespan of the forum.
 
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pes said:
Do not report only the new thread. It is incredibly difficult to find where the other video has been posted before. Porn threads do not have the most distinct names, so it is nearly impossible to remember where what is or search for it. If you know where it is, put it in the report otherwise there is a high chance the report will be rejected. Mods can not remember every single piece of porn posted over the lifespan of the forum.
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The problem is that reporter may also not remember what the exact video was called, when the video was already posted, and by whom. Only that they remember seeing it before at some point. Just as you and I are not computers that can store data like a computer storing data on a hard drive, neither are those that report porn that's already posted. If every report were to require said user to find every single instance of exactly where the original porn was located/titled/posted it would only work to dissuade them from making the report in the first place. Jack3x here usually does us a solid when it comes to women and male dogs. The man's seemingly seen every single piece of porn in that category posted on here.

If someone uploads a video titled "My favorite video I found on the web" if it's being reported as a duplicate, most of the time I just assume it's a duplicate. Especially if it's some old grainy video that appears to have been recorded on a 2005 flip-phone. Usually I'll remove something like that without a second thought, because it most likely had been uploaded before. It's the same with those "Here's a bunch of videos I like" threads where a user uploads 14-20 videos in one thread. Even if there might be 1 or 2 or 3 new videos in the mix, the majority of them aren't new, and thus I don't feel bad deleting the entire thread. But it's not always so cut and dry. An old video could have been posted back in December 2019 and hasn't received a new post since July of 2021. Someone else might repost it, the reporter clearly remembers seeing it, but it would take literal hours of digging to find it. Especially if the video is called "new_vid001.mp4" and the thread is called "My new vid."

All in all, there really isn't an easy answer to this problem. If we require all duplicate videos reported to also have the original video reported as evidence, more than likely the users will just flat out stop reporting it. It's just not worth the effort at that point. I do venture into pretty much all sections of porn here and there for moderation purposes, but I myself only really enjoy watching men with female animals. And I have removed duplicate videos from those specific categories because I remember already seeing them uploaded before myself. A woman x dog video isn't going to really stick with me after I'm done getting through watching it to make sure it isn't abusive. If someone were to post that same video again, I probably wouldn't even remember it, because it wasn't interesting to me in the first place.
 
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Hi.
If I may push a couple of suggestions...

pes said:
1. Which copy should be removed, the old one or the new one?
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Intuition says older should prevail.
Maybe add a link to it and lick new topic?

Still some forums dislike necrothreads even to keep an ontopic discussion, so if that was the case...
pes said:
2. If there already is a meaningful discussion under it (not just nice, hot, more...), should the thread be deleted as well?
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Id say... Use mod magic, merge any interesting post in the old thread, delete the rest (example, new trivia, update or information about the producer)
pes said:
3. Sometimes a video/photo is posted as a reaction for example "What do you like the most?" (a bunch of stuff that has been seen before)
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I think I posted just yesterday site owner should look into and md5 hash checker for the file server.
You could get the exact dupes at a glance, know where they are used and it would it pay itself just on saving storage cost :)
 
Goattobeloved said:
I think I posted just yesterday site owner should look into and md5 hash checker for the file server.
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This is almost certainly not going to happen. As it would require a significant effort on the admin side and you can see how well that goes with any other additional software install request in the past.
Plus videos are difficult to identify since they come in various sizes, cuts, names, formats...
 
pes said:
This is almost certainly not going to happen. As it would require a significant effort on the admin side and you can see how well that goes with any other additional software install request in the past.
Plus videos are difficult to identify since they come in various sizes, cuts, names, formats...
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Hey, I work on a corporation...
Hence the CEO bait "it will save storage costs" 🤣 ( which must already sume quite a recurring fortune...)
 
shouldn't this be more effective in the porn section? i somehow doubt the ppl it's aimed at frequent other sections that often if at all...
 
pes said:
Which porn section, because there is not a one common category.
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all of them? i'm pretty sure there used to be some sort of "read this" type of stickied thread before it let you choose a subcategory...
if not, ctrl c and ctrl v are your friends ;)
 
nekdoneco123 said:
all of them? i'm pretty sure there used to be some sort of "read this" type of stickied thread before it let you choose a subcategory...
if not, ctrl c and ctrl v are your friends ;)
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I will leave this here for a bit until it is finalized. Then there is apparently a way of linking threads without duplicating them. Because keeping all of that up to date in all porn sections in case something changes is not practical.
 
pes said:
I will leave this here for a bit until it is finalized. Then there is apparently a way of linking threads without duplicating them. Because keeping all of that up to date in all porn sections in case something changes is not practical.
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i mean, you do seem to have loads of time for this :gsd_wink:
 
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Nice new pfp pes.

I don’t really see much harm in reposts if the content isn’t abusive AND they have permission from the original owner (or the really old ones where no one can claim it.)

Wouldn’t want to see classic clips lost to time. And reposting old stuff can sometimes be good.

Seems like a non issue but I’m not a mod and don’t have to manage the site :pig_wink:
 
Thank you guys for trying!! This is a really challenging task.. not sure the level of control you have to the backend but there are some open source file control systems that could at least block people from uploading existing files more than once in the future... Doesn't solve all the issues but maybe it could put a dent in it...
 
I'll try and help by linking previous threads with identical content if I find them.
 
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Can we also talk about maybe a comment section only to threads? Where one section is videos only, and the other section could be replies under that specific thread? There's also forums out there where they have a comment thread under a post where theres a distinction between regular comments and reply posts to threads... Just something to think about when literally every other comment posted is "great" "beautiful" "nice post", no matter what is posted (kinda suspecting a bot thing going on here)
 
diazmurath said:
Can we also talk about maybe a comment section only to threads? Where one section is videos only, and the other section could be replies under that specific thread? There's also forums out there where they have a comment thread under a post where theres a distinction between regular comments and reply posts to threads... Just something to think about when literally every other comment posted is "great" "beautiful" "nice post", no matter what is posted (kinda suspecting a bot thing going on here)
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I HIGHLY agree that this would be awesome. I have no idea of the logistics but if possible it would clean up a lot of threads IMO
 
diazmurath said:
Just something to think about when literally every other comment posted is "great" "beautiful" "nice post", no matter what is posted (kinda suspecting a bot thing going on here)
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Supposedly the "like" "dislike" reaction button on each post should suffice instead than those two word posts.

I suspect not as much as bots, but, "hey, every post counts to pass the "lurker" status and be able to PM, follow and browse our hidden secret porn stash subforum.

Um... did I say that last thing aloud?
Ouch...
 
diazmurath said:
Can we also talk about maybe a comment section only to threads? Where one section is videos only, and the other section could be replies under that specific thread? There's also forums out there where they have a comment thread under a post where theres a distinction between regular comments and reply posts to threads... Just something to think about when literally every other comment posted is "great" "beautiful" "nice post", no matter what is posted (kinda suspecting a bot thing going on here)
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We had a forum like that. I'm sure there's mods for it on this software. But it's only a wish.
 
dogluver101 said:
We had a forum like that. I'm sure there's mods for it on this software. But it's only a wish.
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Still looks good like it is. Even if the poster earns to be banned, most of his/her posts may be good and necessary to keep threads integrity.

Now, some indication the user is no longer active (banned, deleted, passed...) on the name or the group could be an easy option?
 
sheeeettt said:
Did you guys delete like everything on the site? Can't find any good f/m boar videos
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There were some recent boar video deletions because guess what, it was stolen copyrighted content.

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sheeeettt said:
Did you guys delete like everything on the site? Can't find any good f/m boar videos
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If it's commercial, or abusive we'll delete it. End of story.

pes said:
Have you seen the porn section? :D

F/M Other

Females with male other type animals
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I like how literally the first (underneath the pinned thread) thread in that section is exactly the type of content he's looking for. Lol
 
pes said:
Which copy should be removed, the old one or the new one?
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I know that I'm new, but I have worked in quality control in a somewhat similar field.

I would argue the following:

If there are quality differences, the highest quality version should always be kept.

Criteria I Would Propose
- More universal codecs
- Less visual artifacts
- Higher resolution
- Lack of exif/identifying data
- Non-author origin (This makes it easier to protect our creators, since they're not the origin at that point)
- Older post when exact match

This comes from working working for an image board. We used similar criteria, though I added some to fit more with the content type.
 
The Obscured Black said:
I know that I'm new, but I have worked in quality control in a somewhat similar field.

I would argue the following:

If there are quality differences, the highest quality version should always be kept.

Criteria I Would Propose
- More universal codecs
- Less visual artifacts
- Higher resolution
- Lack of exif/identifying data
- Non-author origin (This makes it easier to protect our creators, since they're not the origin at that point)
- Older post when exact match

This comes from working working for an image board. We used similar criteria, though I added some to fit more with the content type.
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Exif is already stripped from photos, not sure on video, staff could confirm that. While I agree with your point on QC, the thread itself also needs to be considered, Often times threads will expand with a lot of content, and its better to preserve those, if the quality is acceptable, vs a single thread that has a slightly better version of the same.

If it's a link, its also easy to just comment a link over to the active thread with (High Res: www.superhotanimalpornsite.cum/video/okimdonehere)
 
Straight reposts could be auto detected with simple MD5 cross checks,
problem is that the forum would need to run thru all already posted files...
and I don't know how big the ZooVille SQL database already is.
You know about all that AI shit going on lately, I wonder if someone can write an AI that auto detects reposts, because people like to rename files, re-encode them with worse quality, add annoying emotes and text or mirror the video, etc...
Maybe a report-repost button would help, but staff here has plenty of work to do I guess.

I personally don't like reposts, its a waste of bandwidth and ressources.
 
JazzyPaws said:
Exif is already stripped from photos, not sure on video, staff could confirm that. While I agree with your point on QC, the thread itself also needs to be considered, Often times threads will expand with a lot of content, and its better to preserve those, if the quality is acceptable, vs a single thread that has a slightly better version of the same.

If it's a link, its also easy to just comment a link over to the active thread with (High Res: www.superhotanimalpornsite.cum/video/okimdonehere)
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That's fair. In that case, if it's possible to merge and remove the old post with an edit, I would merge to the main thread, remove the original through an edit-out, and link in the edit to the new one within the thread.

This would preserve the thread, allow the better quality post to remain, and keep improving the experience with high-end content.
 
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