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Why is it so hard to find someone else whos into this?

It is a good question. I tried really hard for 7 years,first using Beast Forum and then Beast Dating. I also made connections on Reddit before they killed all the zoo groups.

I think the main reason is people are leary of exposing this side of their life to others - it is very dangerous. I had more than one person who tried to get my identity for nefarious reasons. My one piece of advice is never send your identity to someone you do not know. Always meet in a safe, public place. In this day and age you can wear a mask and sun glasses and get to know the other person before sharing any personal information about yourself.

One person almost had me a few years ago. They sent me all kinds of information about themselves including their resume, etc. They wanted me to reciprocate. The problem is that I could not validate any of their information so I insisted on a face-to-face meeting before proceeding. Then they bailed....
 
Zoophilia is ilegal in many countries, and even if it is legal, it's still not well recieved by society. Therefore for social, family and job safety people fear (and should fear) being outed as a zoo. Because of this, it's already hard to be open about the subject, making it unlikely to find zoo oriented people "out in the open". People keep this to themselves, as a secret.
Then you have sites such as this one, your best bet to find likeminded soul. But you still have to face the fear of zoo-hunters, unreliable people, fake accounts etc. Meeting someone from here makes them extremely vulnerable. You have to gain trust first, and that takes time.
Lastly, many of us are zoo-exclusive and we simply don't see any point in meeting you at all, lowering the number of potentional people to meet even more.
Whatever your reasoning to meeting people is - be careful, be understanding of what it all takes to overcome, and don't be a dick. Eventually this recipy might work.
 
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Curious as to your reason for wanting to meet somebody, if it’s just to chat you can do it on site for anything else if your not an owner youll find it tough as you’ve nothing to offer as we generally don’t share
 
I also strongly believe that more people are into this than we imagine. Have you ever wondered all the people walking around your next park or forest with all this big male dogs? For me it is obviously. Just nobody talks about.
I recently found out, that my brother and my best friend are zoo too (I caught my Bro sucking the cock of our dog but he didnt noticed me xD)
Just make yourself a little game out of watching people with dogs and thinking if they could be zoo. You often find some evidence.
 
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zoozzz said:
It is a good question. I tried really hard for 7 years,first using Beast Forum and then Beast Dating. I also made connections on Reddit before they killed all the zoo groups.

I think the main reason is people are leary of exposing this side of their life to others - it is very dangerous. I had more than one person who tried to get my identity for nefarious reasons. My one piece of advice is never send your identity to someone you do not know. Always meet in a safe, public place. In this day and age you can wear a mask and sun glasses and get to know the other person before sharing any personal information about yourself.

One person almost had me a few years ago. They sent me all kinds of information about themselves including their resume, etc. They wanted me to reciprocate. The problem is that I could not validate any of their information so I insisted on a face-to-face meeting before proceeding. Then they bailed....
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Reddit has subedits that link to zoo sites, they don't have any rule against zoos so how did they get removed?
 
Actually, it's not. Telltale signs exist and are easy to spot.

As AustrianK9 said, " I also strongly believe that more people are into this than we all can imagine. Have you ever wondered all the people walking around your next park or forest with all this big male dogs? For me it is obviously. Just nobody talks about."

Those with experience can see the difference between a companion relationship and a more intimate one. I took a partner to the local park and pointed out the signs; a loving companion is treated like a child. A lover is treated like a partner. A "pet" is treated more or less like an R/C car that fetches.

Humans can disguise their feelings, the four legged creatures of no hangups cannot - make sure you watch the correct subject, not the human ;)
 
zooms said:
Reddit has subedits that link to zoo sites, they don't have any rule against zoos so how did they get removed?
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There used to be some awesome beast sub-reddits on reddit with great pictures, stories, etc. They are all gone as far as I know.
 
Like others have said, it's just really hard to know whom you can trust. I never was openly searching for a zoo relationship.
I fell into my first zoo relationship by accident. We were really good friends first, and she knew I would keep anything she said secret. When we stepped up the relationship to friends with benefits, she felt that she could trust me enough to bring zoo into the bedroom. I was hidden zoo before her and she allowed me to explore more of that side of my self.
So I basically just got really fucking lucky. More than once actually.
Sorry there is no simple solution to this.
 
My diagnosis is group think. I think if you talked to anybody face-to-face about most controversial things in a quiet room, you can typically reach a mutual understanding or respect. People are intelligent. Groups are not. The same applies to politics. Conservatives and liberals in mass want to lop each others' heads off, but stick two of them in a room together and force them to substantiate their beliefs and they will work it out and become friends by the end. Part of it is facial expressions when you are face-to-face, tone of voice, not being able to take cheap shots and run away, and having your feet held to the fire for things you say. You also get to have a conversation. I like to listen to podcasts where they might discuss an issue for 3 hours and still not cover all the nuances. You can't do this when it's a giant group of people, consisting of millions. But sit me down with one anti-zoo and my first question to them would be to ask if they're vegan. I find that asking questions is the best weapon you can have in your arsenal. Majority of people will say "no". Well now you can work on allowing them to substantiate why pleasuring a family pet you care about is inexcusable and needs to be punished but allowing a pig to be boiled alive so you can have bacon is considered normal. Deconstruct what worldview they hold and build it back up from the bottom.
 
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I don't mean to be rude against anyone, but there is a reason zoo is frowned upon and illegal in most places. This is a forum for people who are interested or experienced with zoo activities, so our viewpoints are very similar and positive about it.

If this was a forum for pedophiles, of course people would be positive minded about that. Just compare those, and now you see why most of the world is against it.

As for relationship, it's of course similar. If you're in to something super kinky and frowned upon, you will have harder time finding a partner. This forum is mostly like any other kink forums; people who have no experience about these things, but have hardcore fantasies and are creeps on the internet, which is why people should avoid giving anything personal here. Just because people have the same kinks, no matter how rare, I don't understand why some creeps feel like people are "obliged" to date or do anything with them.

If people in general have nothing to give in a relationship, do you see it beneficial to enter in a relationship with that kind of a person just because you share a kink? Came off as a rant I guess ?
 
GentlePaw said:
I think if you talked to anybody face-to-face about most controversial things in a quiet room, you can typically reach a mutual understanding or respect. People are intelligent. Groups are not.
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Profound wisdom, indeed!
 
69animesaki said:
Seriously, why?
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It's actually not difficult to spot or find them at all but unfortunately the lifestyle also attracts maybe more than its share of predators and assholes that just fuck things up and make it far more difficult for the decent people involved to trust anyone coupled with the fact that it is deemed a taboo and unacceptable behavior by the old blue haired women who believe it is their responsibility to set the rules for society!!
 
well for me it location and finding single woman around my age... im in country nsw area.
have my own M/F dogs (and soon mini M/F ponies again) so not looking for yours but an actively seeking a female zoo companion / wife / missus...
have been single for a while after parting ways with my wife who was an active zoo and looking for that again as i would not be right for me to date / see a woman and hide this from her.
feel free inbox me or join a local Riverina ZooVille group i started not long ago if your genuinely interested in dating other zoos inside Australia.
it wont happen over night but it can happen in time with the right people.
ive met people from here ( in real life ) and they have been great people some have visited my home and i would call good friends and are welcome back when borders open up again
Australia NSW Riverina | Zooville (zoovilleforum.com)
 
Here's another perspective I heard in another forum years ago... How would you do if you had a tinder profile without mentioning that you are into Zoo? Do you keep yourself in shape and is your hygiene good? Would you be a good companion?

I had a profile on Fetlife for years and actually had a couple of hookups during this time. The questions I asked above were very pertinent for Fetlife if I was going to attract a female. I had a theory back then that if I established a relationship with a kinky woman on Fetlife then I could slowly reveal to her my love of bestiality. It didn't quite work out, but at least they didn't view me as a freak.
 
Just like @zoozzz said, i would not go onto Tinder saying "Hey i like dog cock!!!". I would be so damn scared if any of my family, coworkers, or friends found out. I think people are too harsh to accept it, more often than not. I think a good rule of thumb in any relationship is to get to kinky interests and any fetishes once you've become trustful and comfortable to each other (two way street). I wouldn't doubt a majority of zoos would be found in Therian/Otherkin, Furry or PetPlay scenes. I didn't know a few close friends online were until it was brought up. Kind of a hush-shush deal in the therian community from my view- lots of slander from other communities. Just look at zoo twitter- SO. MANY. ANTIS. But still, meeting up with other zoos, and slowly trying to hang out with others leads to meeting even more people. Hopefully someday we'll all find our perfect match.
 
zooms said:
Reddit has subedits that link to zoo sites, they don't have any rule against zoos so how did they get removed?
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Well, there is a sub that reports any zoo sub they can find - so that might be a factor.
 
You'll find plenty on here, but meeting up with them and forming a meaningful relationship will I suspect be a tad harder. I would assume that this is the sort of thing that gay people might have asked 50 years ago and look how they've progressed. So given that what we're into is even weirder come back in 100 years time and find out the answer? in the meantime be very very careful and have plenty of chats on here before you think about letting any pertinent details out there. And be doubly careful on any public posts where absolutely anyone with a login can see it.
 
I am new to coming out and chatting on this subject, first for a forum about this lifestyle. For me I'd never send incriminating media to someone I intend on meeting in person nor do I want from them, who knows if is real or not. Meeting for coffee or a beer to chat in a public place and feeling them out seems best. As a swinger we met for dinner or drinks a couple times before going to a home. Trust is hard to earn.
 
A reasonable rule of thumb is "When in Rome..." Canada/US and cultures like, don't say you're a zoo, period. If you're in certain EU countries, knock yourself out. If I visited the middle east, I wouldn't walk around telling people I was bi or a pagan. So in the west, blabbing about being a zoo on a dating site might get you facing some consequences.
 
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